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I took note of that. Oh, how I wish I could take command of such an army.
Riots in the Ukraine: cell phone message to protestors via the gov't!
I took note of that. Oh, how I wish I could take command of such an army.
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Here is the live feed I'm watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrZcAsPKK74
Looks like they are preparing for something. They are handing out helmets and arming themselves with clubs.
Looks like they are preparing for something. They are handing out helmets and arming themselves with clubs.
These protests remind me of the Egyptian protests. These people just want something different, they're fed up with what they have and are trying to change it but in no real direction that will change much of anything.
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If this happened anywhere in the U.S., the POLICE STATE would be filling those protestors and those Molotov cocktail throwers full of lead.
A dental assistant made some wrong turns and panicked... the POLICE STATE filled her full of lead and the House of Representatives gave the murdering POLICE STATE a Standing Ovation.
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Latest update...
Ukrainian opposition, government agree to ceasefire
This has been going on for a very long time. Months.
Scuffles with police as thousands of Ukrainians protest shelving of EU trade deal - (nutshell)
Just search keyword "Ukranians" on the link I have here and you'll be able to follow the complete time line. There are hundreds of reports.
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Try this, it also has background info on the crisis with all the players, motivations and strategies used.
http://www.currentconcerns.ch/index.php?id=2592
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From the Ukrainians (white russians) I know, the relationship with Russia is quite "strange". It is understandable why the true Ukrainians want nothing to do with Russia. But, sometimes have to play ball with the big Gorilla.
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Beware of social engineers. Remember the propaganda and staged propaganda by the Muslim Brotherhood and their fake videos?
Al-Jazeera is accused of pro-Muslim Brotherhood broadcast of fake street death
We still haven't the actual video of the police stripping the man so how do we know they stripped him?
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the US scheduled a football (soccer) friendly with Ukraine in the Ukraine on 3/5.... one of the last chances to play prior to world cup so they'll probably make it happen. it's not in Kiev.
here's hoping they cancel so we can have Evans and Dempsey available for the Sounders season opener.
here's hoping they cancel so we can have Evans and Dempsey available for the Sounders season opener.
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Doesn't seem likely that it's a faked video. By most accounts the police aren't acting very ethical which should be no surprise. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...ww.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/01/23/7010998/
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Might happen yet ....
Each cell phone gives off GPS coordinates to the telecom provider. The state has access to all telecom providers' databases.
The protest zones could be defined as GPS ranges. Anyone who had a GPS location that fell within these ranges was identified. The text message was sent to the corresponding cell phone.
Yes this has hardly been in the Western news yet it has been happening for months. You probably haven't heard about the protests in Thailand or Cambodia either because they're just simply not mentioned. On Wednesday, Thailand just pretty much instituted martial law for 60 days, ending free speech and implementing targeted stops, searches and seizures.
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Its staged its the same as in one. After Bosnia, Libya, Iraq Syria i am no longer fooled by these simple Hollywood tricks.
Well you know what? nor arent the peaceful Pro EU protesters. By the way this protester was holding a racket.
Heres the same video making rounds the guardian.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jan/23/ukraine-anti-government-protester-stripped-naked-police-video
Do we see him getting stripped Naked by the police? no we dont, the police were questioning him as they were putting him on the bus i dont see anything wrong with what the police did.
It seems the Ukrainian opposition wanted an reaction out of this one and a spread of fame while they got it.
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Beat me to it.
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“Dear Subscriber, You Are Registered As A Participant In A Mass Disturbance.”
http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/blog/maybe-the-most-orwellian-text-message-ever-sent
Yes, this is in the Ukraine. They're just following our example. But they have the decency to let their people know, our govt does not.
http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/blog/maybe-the-most-orwellian-text-message-ever-sent
“Dear subscriber, you are registered as a participant in a mass disturbance.”
Ukraine's protests, now under cellphone surveillance. Image: Wikimedia
That's a text message that thousands of Ukrainian protesters spontaneously received on their cell phones today, as a new law prohibiting public demonstrations went into effect. It was the regime's police force, sending protesters the perfectly dystopian text message to accompany the newly minted, perfectly dystopian legislation. In fact, it's downright Orwellian (and I hate that adjective, and only use it when absolutely necessary, I swear).
But that's what this is: it's technology employed to detect noncompliance, to hone in on dissent. The NY Times reports that the "Ukrainian government used telephone technology to pinpoint the locations of cell phones in use near clashes between riot police officers and protesters early on Tuesday." Near. Using a cell phone near a clash lands you on the regime's hit list.
See, Kiev is tearing itself to shreds right now, but since we're kind of burned out on protests, riots, and revolutions at the moment, it's being treated as below-the-fold news. Somehow, the fact that over a million people are marching, camping out, and battling with Ukraine's increasingly authoritarian government is barely making a ripple behind such blockbuster news bits as bridge closures and polar vortexes. Yes, even though protesters are literally building catapaults and wearing medieval armor and manning flaming dump trucks.
Hopefully news of the nascent techno-security state will turn some heads—it's right out of 1984, or, more recently, Elysium: technology deployed to "detect" dissent. Again, this tech appears to be highly arbitrary; anyone near the protest is liable to be labeled a "participant," as if targeting protesters directly and so broadly wasn't bad enough in the first place.
It's further reminder that authoritarian regimes are exploiting the very technology once celebrated as a vehicle for liberation; last year, in Turkey, you'll recall, the state rounded up dissident Twitter users. Now, Ukraine is tracing the phone signal directly. Dictators have already proved plenty adept at pulling the plug on the internet altogether.
All of this puts lie to the lately-popular mythology that technology is inherently a liberating force—with the right hack, it can oppress just as easily.
Yes, this is in the Ukraine. They're just following our example. But they have the decency to let their people know, our govt does not.
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