Riots in the Ukraine: cell phone message to protestors via the gov't!

[Deborah K]

Anyone see much news coverage of this? This is serious shit!

Maybe the Most Orwellian Text Message a Government's Ever Sent

“Dear subscriber, you are registered as a participant in a mass disturbance.”

That's a text message that thousands of Ukrainian protesters spontaneously received on their cell phones today, as a new law prohibiting public demonstrations went into effect. It was the regime's police force, sending protesters the perfectly dystopian text message to accompany the newly minted, perfectly dystopian legislation. In fact, it's downright Orwellian (and I hate that adjective, and only use it when absolutely necessary, I swear).

But that's what this is: it's technology employed to detect noncompliance, to hone in on dissent. The NY Times reports that the "Ukrainian government used telephone technology to pinpoint the locations of cell phones in use near clashes between riot police officers and protesters early on Tuesday." Near. Using a cell phone near a clash lands you on the regime's hit list.

See, Kiev is tearing itself to shreds right now, but since we're kind of burned out on protests, riots, and revolutions at the moment, it's being treated as below-the-fold news. Somehow, the fact that over a million people are marching, camping out, and battling with Ukraine's increasingly authoritarian government is barely making a ripple behind such blockbuster news bits as bridge closures and polar vortexes. Yes, even though protesters are literally building catapaults and wearing medieval armor and manning flaming dump trucks.

more here:

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/blog/maybe-the-most-orwellian-text-message-ever-sent

and this:

 

[Czolgosz]

Ha ha.

 

[angelatc]

If the only defense the government has is a stern message via a text message, they're golden.

 

[torchbearer]

they need more fluoride in their water.

 

[Tod]

Those guys catching fire.....splash from a molatov cocktail?

 

[Origanalist]

Anyone see much news coverage of this? This is serious shit!



and this:

 

[Deborah K]

If the only defense the government has is a stern message via a text message, they're golden.

How in the f'k did the gov't know just exactly who was at the protest??? I dunno, in my pea-brain, that is taking technology a bit too far for my liking. Hope the DHS doesn't get any wise ideas.

 

[Deborah K]

Those guys catching fire.....splash from a molatov cocktail?

From the article:

".... protesters are literally building catapaults and wearing medieval armor and manning flaming dump trucks."

 

[Occam's Banana]

How in the f'k did the gov't know just exactly who was at the protest???

IIUC, cell phones that are turned on are constantly "pinging" (or being "pinged" by ?) nearby cell towers.

[...] the "Ukrainian government used telephone technology to pinpoint the locations of cell phones in use near clashes between riot police officers and protesters [...]

[...] protesters are literally building catapaults and wearing medieval armor and manning flaming dump trucks.

Flaming dump trucks iz some serious bidness ...

 

[Deborah K]

IIUC, cell phones that are turned are constantly "pinging" (or being "pinged" by ?) nearby cell towers.





Flaming dump trucks iz some serious bidness ...

I really need to quit skimming articles and actually READ them.

 

[Pericles]

If the only defense the government has is a stern message via a text message, they're golden.

Yeah, like if you know who I am and what I'm doing, why don't you just come on over here and kick my ass, rather than sending me a text.

Maybe you don't want to get shot, or something more painful ....

 

[Origanalist]

From the article:

".... protesters are literally building catapaults and wearing medieval armor and manning flaming dump trucks."

 

[juleswin]

When Dealing With EU Hypocrites in Ukraine
When Dealing With EU Hypocrites in Ukraine

The Fourth Reich is at it again. The hypocrites of the Fourth Reich are once more demasked. There is a very long line of incidents that show the EU for what it really is, a wicked, expansionist dream of Hitler, growing with cash so far, instead of guns, but more than willing to use brute force as needed. A long line of incidents that points to how we should treat with these tyrants with big PR budgets.
We will go to the Eurozone, where no national referendums were held to determine if people populating these nations ever wanted to walk into the meat grinder of the Euro.

Then there was the farce vote for the Euro Constitution. All countries where the initial vote involved a voter referendum, such as Ireland, UK, France and Denmark, failed it, while the others, with a hand picked oligarchial "parliament" easily passed this 300+ page legalese monstrosity. Since it required all member states to agree, a revote was held, this one strictly in parliaments, well except in Ireland, where the Constitution specified referendum. So they voted and voted and between each vote, the EU fascists bought out one or two additional key groups until they got the results they wanted.

Then there was the issue of the US missiles in Poland. Polish referendums showed a clear 68% majority against deployments. Luckily for the Polish "democrats", during the US urged Georgian instigated August 2008 war, the Americans threw the local elites $30 billion and off we went to the missile race. Obviously that money got shared around the EU elites in general, as none had an issue with this travesty of so called democracy. But then again, all the EU spy agencies were on the US payroll, betraying their people on a daily basis, so why should anyone be surprised?

Fast forward through a few dozen scandals, where the EU turned Greece, Cyprus and Italy into vassal states, controlling the first two's finances directly and installing puppet rulers in Italy, in breach of all democratic principles...surprised, right?

Then the EU, hiding behind the guise of NATO, destroyed the nation of Libya, led again by the French, turning the first nation of N.Africa into a murderous hellhole of chaos and clashing clans. They, along with the Americans, have backed one Islamic jihadist group after another, across the region, and were barely stopped from committing genocide in Syria.

Then the French population got Gay Marriage, even though 80% of the French were against it, what their president gave them in addition was tear gas, batons and water cannons. For some reason the same elite that is "powerless" to stop marauding Islamic gangs from terrorizing and murdering French citizens in frenzies of destruction, have no problem in crushing their own native citizens. Go figure. EU "democracy".

Along comes Snowden. The EU fascists claimed that they respected human rights, that is, until the UK's Guardian published Snowden's files and the UK MI5 burst into their offices and used power drills to destroy hard drives and servers that they believed contained the information and used KGB tactics to detain relatives and lovers of the journalists.

So no surprise that the Greek puppets of these Fascists went after the Golden Dawn party that holds some 20% of the parliament of Greece, with the aim to physically and judicially destroy these political upstarts. It has gotten so bad that Greek communist assassins are shooting down members of Golden Dawn in cold blood, while its leadership sits in jail on trumped up charges. Should it be of any surprise that the puppets of Brussels are doing nothing to find the assassins?

The actions against the Golden Dawn are ierly parallel to those of the UK against the British National Party and that of the Dutch against Geert Wilder.

And now we come to Ukraine. The EU, after playing every card it had, including holding the money of the Ukrainian elites hostage, has lost this major round of the fight for Ukraine. It is of course "outraged" that Russia is playing its own game and better than the EU.

The hypocrites of the EU are screaming mad, demanding that Russia stop its evil ways, even as it itself launches itself on a course to create a new colour revolution in Kiev. Instantly the tents, slogans and salaried student protesters show up, while Lithuania starts to threaten to close the border with Russia to Russian transport to our Kalinengrad.

One Financial Times article had the gaul to demand that the EU "help" Ukraine escape from us Russians.

Ladies and Gentlemen, lets face reality, we are in an undeclared Cold War with the tyrants of Brussels, thus Berlin. We need to realize and start acting as such. This is a zero sum game. As such, it is time that Russia started assisting EU vassals to escape from the EU. Greece, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Romania and Iceland are all prime candidates. It is time we gave them their own colour revolutions by supporting oppressed political and Christian religious movements.

Equally, it is time that not the EU but that we, through Gazprom, weened ourselves off of Europe. That gas should be providing next to free energy for our own use and for our industry, not feeding the pockets of Gazprom elites and their EU partners. Did you know Gazprom is the owner of a large amusement park in Germany, that it built...yet in its own native Russia, our Russia, we do not have a single modern or large amusement park. If Gazprom's Miller feels more German than Russian, by all means, get the bloody hell out.

Time Russia turned inward for its needs and let the Euros freeze this winter or suckle up to their new Arab Islamic masters and when the peasants have had enough and take up pitchforks, we must be there to give them aid.

That is how one deals with the Brussels post-Christian barbarians.

http://mat-rodina.blogspot.com/2013/11/when-dealing-with-eu-hypocrites-in.html

The protestors in Ukraine are not some kind of revolutionaries in a quest for freedom. They are just offended that their govt picked a more benevolent master in Russia than the more wicked, thieving and murderous one in EU. The media laughs at the restraint from these govt officials because they truly want to see a big killing of these violent protestors so they can write on about how evil the Ukraine govt is.

Knowing who these people are, what their agenda is and how they are not afraid to use violence to achieve that goal, I absolutely wouldn't give a shit if the police unleashed hell on them. That is if they can ensure that the US and NATO wouldn't over reach with a Serbian style invasion of the country.

 

[Acala]

Those molotov cocktails were working pretty well. I'm impressed.

 

[Deborah K]

http://mat-rodina.blogspot.com/2013/11/when-dealing-with-eu-hypocrites-in.html

The protestors in Ukraine are not some kind of revolutionaries in a quest for freedom. They are just offended that their govt picked a more benevolent master in Russia than the more wicked, thieving and murderous one in EU. The media laughs at the restraint from these govt officials because they truly want to see a big killing of these violent protestors so they can write on about how evil the Ukraine govt is.

Knowing who these people are, what their agenda is and how they are not afraid to use violence to achieve that goal, I absolutely wouldn't give a shit if the police unleashed hell on them. That is if they can ensure that the US and NATO wouldn't over reach with a Serbian style invasion of the country.

Did I read this right? The protestors are paid for?

 

[juleswin]

Did I read this right? The protestors are paid for?

Most likely and medieval armor doesn't come cheap anywhere. The EU these people are supporting is a big tyrant who I have no doubt is ready to use money and violence to achieve their goal of conquest.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Anyone see much news coverage of this? This is serious shit!

It's been on RT non stop. The reporters are among the mob too. Close-ups of police beating the hell out of protesters and then protesters opening up some woop ass on the cops. It's a hoot alright.

A lot of the reporting has been added to their youtube....quite a few are posted... https://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday/videos



Here's just one...

 

[Seraphim]

The DHS is far more advanced than that.

How in the f'k did the gov't know just exactly who was at the protest??? I dunno, in my pea-brain, that is taking technology a bit too far for my liking. Hope the DHS doesn't get any wise ideas.

 

[2young2vote]

To be honest, I haven't heard of this at all. From reading a few articles it looks to me that they are upset their government is pursuing better relations with Russia rather than the EU. I guess I have to pull a Hillary and ask: at that point, what difference does it make? They aren't exactly becoming more free either way...

 

[Natural Citizen]