Rick Sincere Quote = MONEY IN THE BANK!!! (Best argument to combat newsletters)

kro

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I know that I'm using material from The New Republic, but I figured that it would be helpful to use information that a lot of normal people are reading, so they don't feel as though the entire argument is based on what they consider to be "illegitimate" sources (a.k.a. non-MSM sources). Here it goes...


According to The New Republic, in an article entitled, "TNR Exclusive: A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters" (http://www.tnr.com/article/politics...ry-newsletters-exclusive#.TvTqvnSZ5ik.twitter), Ron Paul's newsletters contained anti-gay rhetoric at the following times:

December 1989
January 1990
June 1990
January 1994
September 1994


Ron Paul has stated on record that he did not write these statements, that he did not know about these statements at the time, and that he disavows the statements. (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLonnC_ZWQ0) - *Questions about the newsletters start at the 5:30 mark*

Even though Ron Paul has been been saying this for years and years, and even though there is no audio or video evidence which points to Ron Paul being an anti-gay man, there are still people who insist that he is. If you still believe that Ron Paul is anti-gay, then I ask you to read this blog post (http://ricksincerethoughts.blogspot.com/2008/01/question-was-answered-six-years-ago.html).

It was written by Rick Sincere, an openly gay man who ran for political office in 1993 (which was during the time period when the anti-gay remarks were supposedly found in Ron Paul's newsletters). Sincere wrote:

"Let me speak from my own experience as someone who has met Dr. Paul on several occasions, all of which were characterized by civility, politesse, and good humor. I have never seen any evidence from Ron Paul the man that he has a hateful thought or possesses an animus against any group or individual. He, like most libertarians, is focused on ideas, ideas principally aimed at promoting human dignity, individual liberty, and personal responsibility. Nearly fifteen years ago, I was running for the Virginia House of Delegates (in the 49th District, then completely within Arlington County, one of the most heavily Democratic and liberal districts in the state).The campaign took place during the period that, according to Kirchick, "Ron Paul" was making derogatory, anti-gay remarks in "his" newsletters. As it happens, I was running as an openly-gay candidate for the Virginia General Assembly. (It was my second run for that office after a previous attempt in a special election in January 1991. The same district currently has an openly-gay Democrat representing it in Richmond.) During that 1993 campaign, Ron Paul issued a letter on my behalf, soliciting funds from libertarians and votes from constituents. (We sent the letter to both groups.) Dr. Paul (then a former Congressman) was aware I was running as an openly-gay candidate and he raised no questions, concerns, or objections. I hardly think a homophobic bigot would have sent out a fundraising letter over his own signature, endorsing (as the Washington Times stylebook would have it) an "avowed homosexual" for public office.".


After coming to an understanding of what Rick Sincere himself said, the obvious question is this: Why would an anti-gay man support an openly gay man for political office, even going as far as "soliciting funds from libertarians and votes from constituents"?
 
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Thanks braane! The reason why I think that this particular quote from Rick Sincere is great, is because a) this particular incident occurred smack dab in the middle of the time frame when all the newsletter stuff was going on, b) Rick Sincere states that Ron Paul KNEW that he was an openly gay man, and C) Rick Sincere said himself that he didn't think that Ron Paul was anti-gay. So at the end of the day, an openly gay man got support from Ron Paul even when Ron Paul knew that Rick Sincere was gay. Of course, the obvious question is, "why would someone's who's anti-gay support an openly gay man running for political office?".
 
I'm bumping this because I am hoping it is vetted on a number of levels. For me with a number of fence setters a clearing of the 'anti-gay' charges will equate to any others. Not that I distrust kro. Just that I want to vet it before posting in other forums.
 
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See, and this kind of lack of homophobia is why creeps like Steve Deace won't endorse Ron Paul. You can't have it both ways. Ron Paul is nothing if not consistent. To say he is hateful towards gays, blacks, or really towards anyone other than tyrants (and even then he usually doesn't make it personal) is just ridiculous. Ron Paul is the least hateful person in politics
 
phill4paul: Did you find anything else out about Rick Sincere or this particular quote?
 
You know what is funny...

The media doesn't show clips of Ron giving unreal speeches that go against all this newsletter crap. Also, the DEFINING thing that turned me into a "paulite" or "paulbot" was something that was on RonPaulLibrary, where Dr. Paul wrote about class warfare. That is what got me hooked on this guy back in 09. We could use that text to battle this nonsense.
 
Excellent find, and I'm going to leave this picture from a headline on one newsletter:
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I'll laugh when Santorum turns RP's support of gay people into an attack ad lol.
 
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