"Rick Perry Is The Bankers' answer to Ron Paul" - Alex Jones

[Patriot123]

To the ignorant, the truth sounds like a conspiracy theory. For instance I heard someone on a local neocon "focus group" say that Ron Paul was being a "conspiracy theorist" for pointing out the fact that we overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran and installed the Shah. Sorry but I've lost patience with people in our own movement who want to attack our own movement. Even Judge Napalitano and Geraldo Rivera admit that WTC 7 is fishy. Alex Jones has dug deeper into the truth than some people are willing to go, but he documents his stuff. The only reason it sounds "nutty" is the average person hasn't done the research just like the caller who didn't realize we indeed did overthrow a democratically elected government in Iran.

Right, but 9/11? I mean, come on =/ To be honest, many people have -- I have. As a little kid, I was a little "9/11 Truther" too -- I was, like, what? 12, 13? I was literally brainwashed into believing that after watching that stupid video, Loose Change. I got older, I did my research, I read the 9/11 Commission Report (or at least some of it, lol) and I realized Loose Change was full of, well, you know what. It took different portions of different parts of the 9/11 Commission Report and the story of events in that day, put some of them in different orders to make their case look that much more valid, their facts were wrong... I researched all their facts -- they were all dead wrong. Putting 'rocks ontop of the grass to hide the fact that skid marks weren't evident on the grass'? They did that so that construction vehicles could get into the area, and not sink into the dirt -- that happens at all construction sites... all those facts, facts like those, they were just plain wrong. It was a bunch of "what if" questions. It was a joke. I remember living through 9/11 as a little kid. I remember our elementary school teacher coming in to tell us what happened. The ash of those towers reached all the way to my high school. For someone to claim that it was all a conspiracy -- that those towers actually imploded by explosives through our own government is just disgusting, and fact-less in my opinion. Our government allowing terrorists to attack us? I still vehemently disagree, but that sounds more believable than "our government planted explosives and blew up those towers as opposed to pissing off terrorists and letting them attack us first." And I don't mean that to offend you or anything, but I'm just saying =/ Could 9/11 have happened because Bush didn't take the intel he was given months prior seriously? Maybe -- there are reasonable facts to support that. If you're going to have any conspiracy, they should at least have it backed by facts... I mean, "EndGame?" I watched that as a kid. More than half of it was just some guy recording outside of the Bilderberg Conference -- no facts, just speculation. It was a joke.

Alex Jones and InfoWars represent the 9/11 Truthers. And quite honestly, I find that disgusting, and appalling. I find it appalling to those families who lost loved ones that day, and I find it appalling to Americans like me. And most importantly, I find it appalling to the youth who've probably been brainwashed into believing it without even getting a chance to understand the facts properly. I think Alex Jones is a terrible man, and I'm sorry if you or anyone else doesn't agree with that. His ideas sound nutty because they are. Like I said, I'm really sorry if I'm offending anyone here by saying this. This is just how I feel. I think Alex Jones needs to stay far, far away from Ron Paul.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I disagree.

You're free to believe what you want of course, since this is not the time or place to have yet another 9/11 debate.

Alex Jones is a patriot and I'm proud to have helped support him, for years now.

Right, but 9/11? I mean, come on =/ To be honest, many people have -- I have. As a little kid, I was a little "9/11 Truther" too -- I was, like, what? 12, 13? I was literally brainwashed into believing that after watching that stupid video, Loose Change. I got older, I did my research, I read the 9/11 Commission Report (or at least some of it, lol) and I realized Loose Change was full of, well, you know what. It took different portions of different parts of the 9/11 Commission Report and the story of events in that day, put some of them in different orders to make their case look that much more valid, their facts were wrong... I researched all their facts -- they were all dead wrong. Putting 'rocks ontop of the grass to hide the fact that skid marks weren't evident on the grass'? They did that so that construction vehicles could get into the area, and not sink into the dirt -- that happens at all construction sites... all those facts, facts like those, they were just plain wrong. It was a bunch of "what if" questions. It was a joke. I remember living through 9/11 as a little kid. I remember our elementary school teacher coming in to tell us what happened. The ash of those towers reached all the way to my high school. For someone to claim that it was all a conspiracy -- that those towers actually imploded by explosives through our own government is just disgusting, and fact-less in my opinion. Our government allowing terrorists to attack us? I still vehemently disagree, but that sounds more believable than "our government planted explosives and blew up those towers as opposed to pissing off terrorists and letting them attack us first." And I don't mean that to offend you or anything, but I'm just saying =/ Could 9/11 have happened because Bush didn't take the intel he was given months prior seriously? Maybe -- there are reasonable facts to support that. If you're going to have any conspiracy, they should at least have it backed by facts... I mean, "EndGame?" I watched that as a kid. More than half of it was just some guy recording outside of the Bilderberg Conference -- no facts, just speculation. It was a joke.

Alex Jones and InfoWars represent the 9/11 Truthers. And quite honestly, I find that disgusting, and appalling. I find it appalling to those families who lost loved ones that day, and I find it appalling to Americans like me. And most importantly, I find it appalling to the youth who've probably been brainwashed into believing it without even getting a chance to understand the facts properly. I think Alex Jones is a terrible man, and I'm sorry if you or anyone else doesn't agree with that. His ideas sound nutty because they are. Like I said, I'm really sorry if I'm offending anyone here by saying this. This is just how I feel. I think Alex Jones needs to stay far, far away from Ron Paul.

 

[scrosnoe]

Wonder what Debra Medina would say......

 

[Birdlady]

There's a good number of us who are here because OF Alex Jones. Don't forget that...

<snipped 911 stuff>

Alex Jones and InfoWars represent the 9/11 Truthers. And quite honestly, I find that disgusting, and appalling. I find it appalling to those families who lost loved ones that day, and I find it appalling to Americans like me. And most importantly, I find it appalling to the youth who've probably been brainwashed into believing it without even getting a chance to understand the facts properly. I think Alex Jones is a terrible man, and I'm sorry if you or anyone else doesn't agree with that. His ideas sound nutty because they are. Like I said, I'm really sorry if I'm offending anyone here by saying this. This is just how I feel. I think Alex Jones needs to stay far, far away from Ron Paul.

 

[Airborn]

Right, but 9/11? I mean, come on =/ To be honest, many people have -- I have. As a little kid, I was a little "9/11 Truther" too -- I was, like, what? 12, 13? I was literally brainwashed into believing that after watching that stupid video, Loose Change. I got older, I did my research, I read the 9/11 Commission Report (or at least some of it, lol) and I realized Loose Change was full of, well, you know what. It took different portions of different parts of the 9/11 Commission Report and the story of events in that day, put some of them in different orders to make their case look that much more valid, their facts were wrong... I researched all their facts -- they were all dead wrong. Putting 'rocks ontop of the grass to hide the fact that skid marks weren't evident on the grass'? They did that so that construction vehicles could get into the area, and not sink into the dirt -- that happens at all construction sites... all those facts, facts like those, they were just plain wrong. It was a bunch of "what if" questions. It was a joke. I remember living through 9/11 as a little kid. I remember our elementary school teacher coming in to tell us what happened. The ash of those towers reached all the way to my high school. For someone to claim that it was all a conspiracy -- that those towers actually imploded by explosives through our own government is just disgusting, and fact-less in my opinion. Our government allowing terrorists to attack us? I still vehemently disagree, but that sounds more believable than "our government planted explosives and blew up those towers as opposed to pissing off terrorists and letting them attack us first." And I don't mean that to offend you or anything, but I'm just saying =/ Could 9/11 have happened because Bush didn't take the intel he was given months prior seriously? Maybe -- there are reasonable facts to support that. If you're going to have any conspiracy, they should at least have it backed by facts... I mean, "EndGame?" I watched that as a kid. More than half of it was just some guy recording outside of the Bilderberg Conference -- no facts, just speculation. It was a joke.

Alex Jones and InfoWars represent the 9/11 Truthers. And quite honestly, I find that disgusting, and appalling. I find it appalling to those families who lost loved ones that day, and I find it appalling to Americans like me. And most importantly, I find it appalling to the youth who've probably been brainwashed into believing it without even getting a chance to understand the facts properly. I think Alex Jones is a terrible man, and I'm sorry if you or anyone else doesn't agree with that. His ideas sound nutty because they are. Like I said, I'm really sorry if I'm offending anyone here by saying this. This is just how I feel. I think Alex Jones needs to stay far, far away from Ron Paul.

all I'm going to say without turning this into a hot topic too much... is there are still many unanswered questions about WHAT went on that day, the way it was handled and the events that unfolded for me to fully accept the official story..

 

[Anti Federalist]

///

 

[PC_for_Paul]

"I disagree.

You're free to believe what you want of course, since this is not the time or place to have yet another 9/11 debate.

Alex Jones is a patriot and I'm proud to have helped support him, for years now."

100% agree with you. I only know what I have seen, I know the result. Going into 9/11, defense spending was on the table, we were looking at a peace dividend. Then it all went poof. I am a veteran, was in central america in the 80's. All I know is what I have seen. I can't say it was condoned, but the coke moved north. It went on small aircraft sending supplies south for the contra rebels. It changed my world view, it changed what was real and it put a light on all the bull@hit for me.

The truth is simplier than most think, interest align and forces take over, might not be intended. Call it what you will, but the outcome is undeniable. Fact is indeeded stranger than fiction.

 

[Patriot123]

All right, look. Sorry, didn't mean to say that, let's not... as you said, turn this into a hot topic. It's arguments like these that divide us, and... we really don't need that, right? Right now, we need to focus on winning the Iowa Caucus. correct? Power through numbers. Rick Perry needs to go down.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

100% agree with you. I only know what I have seen, I know the result. Going into 9/11, defense spending was on the table, we were looking at a peace dividend. Then it all went poof. I am a veteran, was in central america in the 80's. All I know is what I have seen. I can't say it was condoned, but the coke moved north. It went on small aircraft sending supplies south for the contra rebels. It changed my world view, it changed what was real and it put a light on all the bull@hit for me.

The truth is simplier than most think, interest align and forces take over, might not be intended. Call it what you will, but the outcome is undeniable. Fact is indeeded stranger than fiction.

qft. and well spoken.

 

[PC_for_Paul]

Patriot, I understand your distain of propaganda that is consumed without deference to the truth. I hope you understand that those who are close only have a small piece of the picture and will not go out on a limb if they are smart. To make that stand in public poses more problems than solutions. The truth must be left to it's own devices, that is just where we are. If there is one guy walking around with a smoking gun, he wouldn't make it far.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

To the ignorant, the truth sounds like a conspiracy theory. For instance I heard someone on a local neocon "focus group" say that Ron Paul was being a "conspiracy theorist" for pointing out the fact that we overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran and installed the Shah. Sorry but I've lost patience with people in our own movement who want to attack our own movement. Even Judge Napalitano and Geraldo Rivera admit that WTC 7 is fishy. Alex Jones has dug deeper into the truth than some people are willing to go, but he documents his stuff. The only reason it sounds "nutty" is the average person hasn't done the research just like the caller who didn't realize we indeed did overthrow a democratically elected government in Iran.

It doesn't matter how many times Alex Jones is proven to be accurate, there will always be assholes who will say him and other conspiracy theorists are 'nutjobs'. Never with any type of basis in fact but just throwing a rude smear because it makes them feel superior and apart of the establishment. It sickens me to see it here of all places, but you still do. It is unfortunate

 

[charliem]

The campaign would be better off without anyone who attempts to attach their theories to it. Such people make garnering new supporters that much more difficult. I want your vote, not your opinions. We're winning support for Ron Paul, not you. Talk about his views, not yours. If you aren't capable of doing that, then you're hurting the campaign as far as I'm concerned, and you should blame yourself when we lose.

 

[Anti Federalist]

"I disagree.

You're free to believe what you want of course, since this is not the time or place to have yet another 9/11 debate.

Alex Jones is a patriot and I'm proud to have helped support him, for years now."

100% agree with you. I only know what I have seen, I know the result. Going into 9/11, defense spending was on the table, we were looking at a peace dividend. Then it all went poof. I am a veteran, was in central america in the 80's. All I know is what I have seen. I can't say it was condoned, but the coke moved north. It went on small aircraft sending supplies south for the contra rebels. It changed my world view, it changed what was real and it put a light on all the bull@hit for me.

The truth is simplier than most think, interest align and forces take over, might not be intended. Call it what you will, but the outcome is undeniable. Fact is indeeded stranger than fiction.

Thanks for posting that.

I'm probably about your age as well, and I, like you, have first hand information about the drugs moving north and the guns moving south among other things.

Those revelations and then Waco made it very clear to me who the real enemy is.

Oh and btw, don't think for minute that the guns and coke, shipped by the government, have stopped, we all know about "Fast and Furious" but then there is this:

Documents: Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information

By Diana Washington Valdez / El Paso Times
Posted: 08/04/2011 08:30:37 AM MDT

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410?source=most_viewed

U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

The allegations are part of the defense of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, who was extradited to the United States to face drug-trafficking charges in Chicago. He is also a top lieutenant of drug kingpin Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman and the son of Ismael "Mayo" Zambada-Garcia, believed to be the brains behind the Sinaloa cartel.

And watch what happens next, word will come out that Rick Perry was well aware of, and involved in these operations, and the people that expose that information, will end up dead, officially ruled a suicide with 8 bullets in the back of the head.

Jones is not kidding when he says this is deadly dangerous business.

People that knew the facts around Bill Clinton and the operations you mentioned, turned up dead by the score.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Wonder what Debra Medina would say......

Dunno. She might say, "Glenn Beck is prick of epic proportions!"

That's Just my guess, though. Why do you ask?

Is there something else she might say?

 

[JJonesMBA]

Wonder what Debra Medina would say......

I agree. Dr. P. recently referred to her 2010 Tea Party candidacy - getting 20% against the Gov.'s narrow majority. She ran all over him in the televised debates; I'm sure she'll be asked to make the rounds and shine a light on his record.

 

[Imaginos]

I don't give a s**t what anybody says. Alex Jones is a true freedom fighter.

+1

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Wonder what Debra Medina would say......

Probably: "damn, I screwed up my career in statewide electoral politics permanently by doing a big radio interview and sounding sympathetic to Alex Jones' 9/11 truther views right when my gubernatorial campaign was truly taking off."

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/02/texas-poll-preview.html

Debra Medina actually leads the race with people who think she's not a truther- with 33% to 32% for Kay Bailey Hutchison and 29% for Rick Perry. But with voters who think she is a truther, or that she might be, she gets only 7% to 51% for Perry and 30% for Hutchison.

 

[Carson]

That just about sums it up. They're saying he's already got $20 MILLION. Somebody's propping him up and I think we know who.

In fact, today I was wondering if the ol' Bernank couldn't just have a few zillion printed up for his campaign...I mean, why not?

I suppose without an audit they could have been manipulating elections for decades. A concept like that might help explain some of the spending and borrowing our politicians do. The real winners seem to be the banks themselves.

 

[jmdrake]

Loose Change is weaksauce. You should have watched 9/11 Press for Truth.

[video=google;3979568779414136481]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481[/video]

Note, 9/11 press for truth was put together by victims families. And its been victims family members who have been pushing the WTC 7 "Building What?" campaign. The majority of victims family members want this exposed. Are you disgusted at victims' family members?



I was convinced about 9/11 truth not by watching some slick video but by doing my own research. Loose Change got decent by the final cut after they cut out all of the pod crap. But you have to be brain dead to believe the official story. Two planes can't knock down 3 buildings. (WTC 1, 2 and 7). There were explosions heard by firefighters and other first responders. Even members of the 9/11 commission have admitted that their commission was a farce.

Really, the most damning evidence about 9/11 is the stuff people typically don't talk about, like the fact that Indian intelligence traced phone records to prove the head of Pakistani intelligence wired the money for the attacks. This same Pakistani general was in D.C. on 9/11 meeting with two people who would later be on the 9/11 commission. (Bob Graham and Porter Goss). The FBI confirmed this, but this was all left out of the 9/11 commission report. And what about the papers that were stolen from the 9/11 commission by Sandy Berger and put in his sock? Who blocked the FBI from looking at Zacharias Moussoui's laptop? Someone ran interference for the terrorists. Someone facilitated the laundering of money. The investigation covered all of this up. Whether on not one particular 9/11 film was "rock solid" is irrelevant. 9/11 stinks to high heaven. And it is the excuse that's been rammed down our collective throats to launch unjust wars and take away our freedoms.

Right, but 9/11? I mean, come on =/ To be honest, many people have -- I have. As a little kid, I was a little "9/11 Truther" too -- I was, like, what? 12, 13? I was literally brainwashed into believing that after watching that stupid video, Loose Change. I got older, I did my research, I read the 9/11 Commission Report (or at least some of it, lol) and I realized Loose Change was full of, well, you know what. It took different portions of different parts of the 9/11 Commission Report and the story of events in that day, put some of them in different orders to make their case look that much more valid, their facts were wrong... I researched all their facts -- they were all dead wrong. Putting 'rocks ontop of the grass to hide the fact that skid marks weren't evident on the grass'? They did that so that construction vehicles could get into the area, and not sink into the dirt -- that happens at all construction sites... all those facts, facts like those, they were just plain wrong. It was a bunch of "what if" questions. It was a joke. I remember living through 9/11 as a little kid. I remember our elementary school teacher coming in to tell us what happened. The ash of those towers reached all the way to my high school. For someone to claim that it was all a conspiracy -- that those towers actually imploded by explosives through our own government is just disgusting, and fact-less in my opinion. Our government allowing terrorists to attack us? I still vehemently disagree, but that sounds more believable than "our government planted explosives and blew up those towers as opposed to pissing off terrorists and letting them attack us first." And I don't mean that to offend you or anything, but I'm just saying =/ Could 9/11 have happened because Bush didn't take the intel he was given months prior seriously? Maybe -- there are reasonable facts to support that. If you're going to have any conspiracy, they should at least have it backed by facts... I mean, "EndGame?" I watched that as a kid. More than half of it was just some guy recording outside of the Bilderberg Conference -- no facts, just speculation. It was a joke.

Alex Jones and InfoWars represent the 9/11 Truthers. And quite honestly, I find that disgusting, and appalling. I find it appalling to those families who lost loved ones that day, and I find it appalling to Americans like me. And most importantly, I find it appalling to the youth who've probably been brainwashed into believing it without even getting a chance to understand the facts properly. I think Alex Jones is a terrible man, and I'm sorry if you or anyone else doesn't agree with that. His ideas sound nutty because they are. Like I said, I'm really sorry if I'm offending anyone here by saying this. This is just how I feel. I think Alex Jones needs to stay far, far away from Ron Paul.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Really, the most damning evidence about 9/11 is the stuff people typically don't talk about, like the fact that Indian intelligence traced phone records to prove the head of Pakistani intelligence wired the money for the attacks. This same Pakistani general was in D.C. on 9/11 meeting with two people who would later be on the 9/11 commission. (Bob Graham and Porter Goss). The FBI confirmed this, but this was all left out of the 9/11 commission report. And what about the papers that were stolen from the 9/11 commission by Sandy Berger and put in his sock? Who blocked the FBI from looking at Zacharias Moussoui's laptop? Someone ran interference for the terrorists. Someone facilitated the laundering of money. The investigation covered all of this up. Whether on not one particular 9/11 film was "rock solid" is irrelevant. 9/11 stinks to high heaven. And it is the excuse that's been rammed down our collective throats to launch unjust wars and take away our freedoms.

You forgot to mention that this same Porter Goss went on to become CIA director.