RFK Jr. Says He Would Sign ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban if it Reached His Desk

[Anti Federalist]

RFK Jr. Says He Would Sign ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban if it Reached His Desk

[MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION]
[MENTION=12430]acptulsa[/MENTION]

Ok, so what am I supposed to think now?

I hear a lot of talk about "muh principles"...but this is a massive flip-flop-fly.

He's all over the map.


RFK Jr. Says He Would Sign ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban if it Reached His Desk

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amend...n-assault-weapons-ban-if-it-reached-his-desk/

AWR HAWKINS 29 Jun 2023

Democratic presidential hopeful Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told a NewsNation town hall on Wednesday night he would sign an “assault weapons” ban if it reached his desk.

When RFK Jr. was asked about an “assault weapons” ban, the question was framed to reflect strong Democrat support for such a measure.

RFK Jr. responded, “If we can get a consensus on it, if Republicans and Democrats agreed and it passed Congress, I would sign it.”

He made his statement about an “assault weapons” ban just minutes after intimating that guns are not problem. He indicated that Americans have always had guns, and that Americans used to bring firearms to school for “gun clubs,” and no one thought of shooting at children.

RFK Jr.’s admission he would sign an “assault weapons” ban came just over a week after he used a New Hampshire townhall to stand against the idea of taking away guns.

In New Hampshire RFK Jr. said, “Anyone who tells you that we can end the violence to our children that’s going on now by removing people’s guns, in the margin that has been left to us by this very expansive Supreme Court decision [Bruen] is not being truthful with you.”

Moreover, on June 5, 2023, Breitbart News reported on a conversation between Elon Musk and RFK Jr., in which RFK Jr. said, “My position on gun control is that I’m not going to take away anybody’s guns. I’m a constitutional maximalist and the issue has been settled by the Supreme Court.”

During the NewsNation townhall he made clear he would sign an “assault weapons” ban if it reached his desk.

https://twitter.com/NewsNation/status/1674248100775329792

 

[Cleaner44]

He seems like an honest yet typically dumb liberal.

I am pretty sure he thinks we can control the weather by raising taxes on people.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

He seems like an honest yet typically dumb liberal.

I am pretty sure he thinks we can control the weather by raising taxes on people.

You can pretty much guarantee that if elected, and that's a big if, he would work with the Democrats on most of their agenda, including various bans on things like guns, natural gas appliances, etc.

 

[Anti Federalist]

You can pretty much guarantee that if elected, and that's a big if, he would work with the Democrats on most of their agenda, including various bans on things like guns, natural gas appliances, etc.

That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to as well.

He may present a "new way" ideal, but at the end of it all, pretty much just another democrat Marxist.

 

[CCTelander]

That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to as well.

He may present a "new way" ideal, but at the end of it all, pretty much just another democrat Marxist.

The guy’sca socialist from a LONG line of socialists. Always has been. Always will be. His Uncle Teddy, the hero of Chappaquiddick, was as indefatigable an dnemy of liberty as there ever was. Why should he (RFK Jr.) be any different?

 

[PAF]

He sounds pretty emphatic that the cause is not guns, and that SSRI's and other should be looked into, which he is very consistent.

Keep in mind that he is trying to reach the Democrat base. After being pushed repeatedly to provide an answer, he said IF there is consensus by republicans and democrats. Are you afraid the republicans won't stand firm, [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] ?

Another diversionary tactic by "NewsNation" to keep him out of the race. I am not the least bit worried about guns. They are not going anywhere. And when people start to realize that government does not grant Rights, the better off we will be.

As far as controlling the weather by raising taxes on people [MENTION=6780]Cleaner44[/MENTION] , RFK did an entire segment concerning Climate Engineering which is a must see http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...mp-Dane-Wigington-Is-Climate-Engineering-Real

 

[PAF]

The guy’sca socialist from a LONG line of socialists. Always has been. Always will be. His Uncle Teddy, the hero of Chappaquiddick, was as indefatigable an dnemy of liberty as there ever was. Why should he (RFK Jr.) be any different?

Politics is not the answer. Ron Paul said "reach the hearts and minds of the American people". There is no left versus right, it is liberty vs tyranny. RFK has been speaking about true free markets, regulatory capture, lobbyists, and the entire gamut of what is plaguing this country. He is speaking about issues that no other candidate dares to speak about. Democrats will never listen to Ron Paul, Walter Block, Tom Massie, etc., IMO, RFK is at least educating some of the Democrats. If anything, it is a start.

 

[acptulsa]

Hell I don't know, man. Why are you even asking me? Do I look like 'Scusesmyth to you, that I'm liable to make guarantees with my mouth that my ass has no chance of keeping?

If you can support Trump just because the MSM entertains you with 'sploding hedz over him, why can't I enjoy watching that happen over a donkey? At least my donkey admits to being a donkey, and doesn't claim to be a transitioned trans ex-donkey.

As long as he keeps badmouthing the jab, SSRIs and the CIA, I'm in favor of it all.

You can pretty much guarantee that if elected, and that's a big if, he would work with the Democrats on most of their agenda, including various bans on things like guns, natural gas appliances, etc.

Yes, if he's suckering us. If he really does intend to take on such sacred cows as Big Pharma, the CIA's going to keep him much too busy for little projects like that.

 

[TheTexan]

Politics is not the answer. Ron Paul said "reach the hearts and minds of the American people". There is no left versus right, it is liberty vs tyranny. RFK has been speaking about true free markets, regulatory capture, lobbyists, and the entire gamut of what is plaguing this country. He is speaking about issues that no other candidate dares to speak about. Democrats will never listen to Ron Paul, Walter Block, Tom Massie, etc., IMO, RFK is at least educating some of the Democrats. If anything, it is a start.

In other words RFK is horrible from a policy perspective but speaks about issues that noone else will.

Kind of reminds me of someone. Someone orange.

 

[RJB]

He's like Trump, a mixed bag with a checkered past. Better than most politicians, but there is no messiah coming to save us as a politician.

 

[nobody's_hero]

In other words RFK is horrible from a policy perspective but speaks about issues that noone else will.

Kind of reminds me of someone. Someone orange.

Thread winner. Close thread. We're done here. Texan has summarized it perfectly.

 

[RJB]

Thread winner. Close thread. We're done here. Texan has summarized it perfectly.

Yep.

 

[acptulsa]

In other words RFK is horrible from a policy perspective but speaks about issues that noone else will.

Kind of reminds me of someone. Someone orange.

Thread winner. Close thread. We're done here. Texan has summarized it perfectly.

Yep.

Except that we can sit down and look at the record, and determine just exactly how full of beans the orange one is. If we can go uninterrupted by people claiming, that's not a bean, it's a radish! That's not a bean, it's a Brussels sprouts! we can count the things.

That full of beans count is yet an unknown quantity with RFKJr. So far, gun grabbing is the only issue he has been on both sides of, that I've seen. Which I consider an improvement over being on every side of every issue, Pick Your Favorite Tweet.

 

[unknown]

Is this code for, the bill would never make it to my desk?

 

[PAF]

Except that we can sit down and look at the record, and determine just exactly how full of beans the orange one is. If we can go uninterrupted by people claiming, that's not a bean, it's a radish! That's not a bean, it's a Brussels sprouts! we can count the things.

That full of beans count is yet an unknown quantity with RFKJr. So far, gun grabbing is the only issue he has been on both sides of, that I've seen. Which I consider an improvement over being on every side of every issue, Pick Your Favorite Tweet.

[MENTION=962]RJB[/MENTION] , [MENTION=16095]nobody's_hero[/MENTION] , [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION], [MENTION=6780]Cleaner44[/MENTION] , still can't understand that one cannot convert Democrats in one quick speech or over the course of a quick couple of days or weeks. They seem to think that just because RFK has a D after his name, he can speak bluntly about free markets, regulatory capture, the jab, etc. and the Biden party will follow.

Things like this take time. RFK, IMO, is taking baby steps in the way that he says things in order to not alienate the big letter D's. I am still hoping that over time, win or lose, some of them wake up out their stupor and begin to think independently again. Something that even the "R"s are incapable of doing.

As to people in general, including on this forum, they will dismiss all of the important things that matter and have the greatest impact, over one teeny little thing that he was backed into a corner to answer, ensuring a win for TPTB. Ron Paul was the example in 2012. RFK will be the example in 2024.

IMO, that lady pushed hard for an answer knowing that he was speaking to the Democrat base. Even after he emphasized SSRI's, not guns, could be to blame and should be studied.

But, they will still have their Orange God (record and all) and Biden to choose from.

And like [MENTION=34322]unknown[/MENTION] said above, if Republicans hold to their principles, that bill will never see the light of day. And RFK, I believe, knows that.

 

[RJB]

I said he's a mixed bag and not a Messiah. No politician is. What did I say that you disagree with?


You do this a lot. You mention me or someone else and distort what we said or ignore what we said and post an unrelated word salad.

[MENTION=962]RJB[/MENTION] , [MENTION=16095]nobody's_hero[/MENTION] , [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION], [MENTION=6780]Cleaner44[/MENTION] , still can't understand that one cannot convert Democrats in one quick speech or over the course of a quick couple of days or weeks. They seem to think that just because RFK has a D after his name, he can speak bluntly about free markets, regulatory capture, the jab, etc. and the Biden party will follow.

Things like this take time. RFK, IMO, is taking baby steps in the way that he says things in order to not alienate the big letter D's. I am still hoping that over time, win or lose, some of them wake up out their stupor and begin to think independently again. Something that even the "R"s are incapable of doing.

As to people in general, including on this forum, they will dismiss all of the important things that matter and have the greatest impact, over one teeny little thing that he was backed into a corner to answer, ensuring a win for TPTB. Ron Paul was the example in 2012. RFK will be the example in 2024.

IMO, that lady pushed hard for an answer knowing that he was speaking to the Democrat base. Even after he emphasized SSRI's, not guns, could be to blame and should be studied.

But, they will still have their Orange God (record and all) and Biden to choose from.

And like [MENTION=34322]unknown[/MENTION] said above, if Republicans hold to their principles, that bill will never see the light of day. And RFK, I believe, knows that.

 

[RJB]

Except that we can sit down and look at the record, and determine just exactly how full of beans the orange one is. If we can go uninterrupted by people claiming, that's not a bean, it's a radish! That's not a bean, it's a Brussels sprouts! we can count the things.

That full of beans count is yet an unknown quantity with RFKJr. So far, gun grabbing is the only issue he has been on both sides of, that I've seen. Which I consider an improvement over being on every side of every issue, Pick Your Favorite Tweet.

I like RFK better than most democrats and republicans, but It's a line in the sand for me. Not that my vote will mathematically make a difference but yeah, I would choose him over Biden if that makes you happy.

 

[PAF]

I said he's a mixed bag and not a Messiah. No politician is. What did I say that you disagree with?

You do this a lot. You mention me or someone else and distort what we said.

Oh jeez, please don't take it personal [MENTION=962]RJB[/MENTION] , I am merely making conversation and just trying to make a point ;-)

You said "Yep." in Post #12, which is what I disagree with.

As far as Messiah's are concerned, NO politician is, and NEVER will be. Deep down I am an AnCap (or whatever label you want to put on me), and in fact I might have a difference of opinion about a thing or two with RFK. But the important thing is reaching the Democrats so that we can (in RFK's words) "heal the divide", and stop this crazy internal war between us. Otherwise, it's the same status quo between Trump and Biden (or whoever else the RNC/DNC pre-approve in the club).

 

[PAF]

I like RFK better than most democrats and republicans, but It's a line in the sand for me. Not that my vote will mathematically make a difference but yeah, I would choose him over Biden if that makes you happy.

I'm not one to tell others what to say, so if I may throw out a suggestion:

When I speak to Democrats, there ain't no way in hell I'm telling them I'm a right-wing extremist, certainly not an AnCap. Instead, I ask them:

1. "Hey, did you hear RFK speak? Would you like the link? He sounds much more intelligent than Biden does, and he doesn't support private/public ventures like Trump does. He said some very interesting things about "regulatory capture" that affects all of us, maybe you'd like to hear him talk about that?"

2. "He also said that he has hard data on vaccines that nobody is willing to talk about, and that the pharm complex has been known to break the laws and has billions of dollars of settlements."

3. "He also said that while we must take care of our planet, he believes companies who dump millions of gallons of toxic paint into our drinking water should pay the tab and not us tax-payers! And if they persist, they should go to jail!"

4. "And then RFK was talking about Climate Change, and he said that there is a difference between that and Climate Engineering which the tax-payers shouldn't be paying for because it is much more dangerous. And he also believes God knows how to take care of the planet better than the government and corporations."


Those are just some examples of how I reach Democrats. Basically, the same ideals that we as libertarians have.

 

[RJB]

Oh jeez, First off everyone takes stuff personally, including you. I see battles waging between people for over 10 years on this forum and they'll argue over stuff they basically agree with just to fight. It's human nature. I don't have a running battle with anyone on the forum including you.

But in this case, I didn't take it personally in the slightest. You didn't insult me in anyway. My "yep" was in agreement with the Texan. Both Trump and RFK are mixed bags. As of now, I see them in a similar light. My suspicion of RFK has nothing to do with worship of the "orange god.".Trump claiming the vax is the greatest achievement of mankind is also a line in the sand as much as the AWB. Not that my vote makes a mathematical difference, but I have no idea how I would vote with RFK vs Trump.

Again, I didn't take anything personally in that post, I just found the mention odd. Clayton does that too as in making a reply to one of my posts and leaving a word salad that has nothing to do with what I said. I'm not mad, I am posting an observation.

Oh jeez, please don't take it personal [MENTION=962]RJB[/MENTION] , I am merely making conversation and just trying to make a point ;-)

You said "Yep." in Post #12, which is what I disagree with.

As far as Messiah's are concerned, NO politician is, and NEVER will be. Deep down I am an AnCap (or whatever label you want to put on me), and in fact I might have a difference of opinion about a thing or two with RFK. But the important thing is reaching the Democrats so that we can (in RFK's words) "heal the divide", and stop this crazy internal war between us. Otherwise, it's the same status quo between Trump and Biden (or whoever else the RNC/DNC pre-approve in the club).