RFK Jr.'s 2024 POTUS campaign

[CaptUSA]

I hope he picks Tulsi and she gets another shot at Kamala in a VP debate! That’d be epic!

 

[PAF]

Everyone but Rand on that list is a crazy commie.
They fit RFK like a glove.

If I was forced to vote, which I’m not, should I vote commie, or fascist?

 

[CaptUSA]

I hope he picks Tulsi and she gets another shot at Kamala in a VP debate! That’d be epic!

Anyone else with me on this one?? In the week leading up to the debate, that old clip of Tulsi dismantling Kamala would be flooding the internet and even might make it to the corporate press.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If I was forced to vote, which I’m not, should I vote commie, or fascist?

Vote Trump.

 

[acptulsa]

If I was forced to vote, which I’m not, should I vote commie, or fascist?

Vote Trump.

The fascist, of course. You knew that would be the answer.

 

[devil21]

If I was forced to vote, which I’m not, should I vote commie, or fascist?

Something something...consent of the governed....something something.

Voting is consent to be governed and governed VERY VERY hard by whichever candidates TPTB decide to allow you to choose ti consent to. Ultimately, the end result is a communist/fascist mix of authoritarian control, so it matters not which is voted for. They just take turns manufacturing consent to the implementation of authoritarian full control to their respective bases of consenting morons. DJT manufactures consent to authoritarian control to the right. Biden manufactures authoritarian consent to the left. The middle, who actually control elections, are given the appearance of having no choice but to participate in the manufactured consent process, lest they be at the whims of the cadres of morons who make up the 2 party duopoly bases.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The fascist, of course. You knew that would be the answer.

Cry harder, leftarian.
Nobody listens to your parroting of MSM/AntiFa talking points.

(Trump is not a fascist, but even if he was fascism would be an improvement over what we have in spite of its many serious problems)

 

[acptulsa]

Cry harder, leftarian.
Nobody listens to your parroting of MSM/AntiFa talking points.

(Trump is not a fascist, but even if he was fascism would be an improvement over what we have in spite of its many serious problems)

He isn't, but even if he is...

Look at the thread title. It isn't "Post Your Excuses For the Leader of Your Cult". It's about a candidate who might do something positive, given a chance.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1769426202022867212

Beats build a bigger NATO and make Europe pay tribute for it, because Western civilization needs to be broke. Which is the policy of the fool you bleat like a sheep for.

But if you really want to talk about that cult of yours...

 

[Snowball]

The Chinese auto manufacturers Mexico is partnering with are meant for the Latin American market, anyway.
Chinese know the U.S. population isn't going to just flip over to Chinese cars. That's ridiculous.

 

[acptulsa]

Chinese know the U.S. population isn't going to just flip over to Chinese cars.

They'd probably sell quite well about now, largely because they're built from the ground up with absolutely none of the stupid design compromises necessary to meet U. S. regulations.

 

[Snowball]

They'd probably sell quite well about now, largely because they're built from the ground up with absolutely none of the stupid design compromises necessary to meet U. S. regulations.

This kind of ties in. Did you ever hear of Morgan Ortagus? She ran for the TN House seat in '22 as a carpetbagger and plant. TN had to pass a law to keep her and 2 others from eligibility because they weren't even from TN. Trump endorsed her publicly. There are quite a few revealing and informative story links if you look her up. I was watching her legs on Fox News, because once in a while I'll flip through the fake news. These are the Deep Staters Trump endorses. It's all a sham, really.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Ventura has gone crazy commie. It's a shame because a little over a decade ago he seemed to have really good positions and was a decent governor in Minnesota. I used to be a big Ventura fan.

Last time I saw Ventura, he was just about as feeble as Biden, mentally.

 

[Snowball]

Supposedly it won't be Tulsi, she's a Trump-backer now.

So who does it leave, Andrew Yang, Jesse Ventura, Aaron Rodgers..

or, most likely, the list was a head fake.

 

[Matt4Liberty]

Last time I saw Ventura, he was just about as feeble as Biden, mentally.

That's what it seems like unfortunately. Wonder if he got a brain tumor or something.

 

[Swordsmyth]

He isn't, but even if he is...

Look at the thread title. It isn't "Post Your Excuses For the Leader of Your Cult". It's about a candidate who might do something positive, given a chance.

Not a chance.
But he will do A LOT of bad things by his own admission that will make anything you don't like or unfairly blame on Trump pale in comparison.

Beats build a bigger NATO and make Europe pay tribute for it, because Western civilization needs to be broke. Which is the policy of the fool you bleat like a sheep for.

LOL

His policy is to get us out of NATO because it is just a scheme to make us pay for the defense of deadbeat Eurotrash.

 

[acptulsa]

His policy is to get us out of NATO because it is just a scheme to make us pay for the defense of deadbeat Eurotrash.

Then why are we still in it? Did he sleep through his entire first four year term and never notice he was president? How did he wake up all 1461 days and not once say, today I get rid of that pesky NATO?

Never ceases to amaze me when people see CNN fearmongering their sheep over what Trump might do and convince themselves that's a campaign promise. One, no it isn't. Two, what's a Trump campaign promise really worth? I wouldn't give you a book of paper matches for a dozen.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Then why are we still in it? Did he sleep through his entire first four year term and never notice he was president? How did he wake up all 1461 days and not once say, today I get rid of that pesky NATO?

Never ceases to amaze me when people see CNN fearmongering their sheep over what Trump might do and convince themselves that's a campaign promise. One, no it isn't. Two, what's a Trump campaign promise really worth? I wouldn't give you a book of paper matches for a dozen.

Because he totally wasn't having enough trouble with being impeached and trying to bring troops home against Pentagon resistance and all the other garbage thrown at him?
They impeached and almost convicted and removed him for threatening to pull Ukraine aid if they didn't clean up their corruption, they would have convicted and removed over any made up issue if he had left NATO.
Now he will be in a better position with less RINOs, an R House, and the Ukraine war as an example of the dangers of NATO to America.

 

[acptulsa]

Because he totally wasn't having enough trouble with being impeached and trying to bring troops home against Pentagon resistance and all the other garbage thrown at him?

That's the price a reformer pays. Anyone who finds it too inconvenient was never serious about draining any swamps

Now he will be in a better position with less RINOs, an R House, and the Ukraine war as an example of the dangers of NATO to America.

Have fun holding your breath. Don't whine at me about it when you turn blue.

 

[Snowball]

Because he totally wasn't having enough trouble with being impeached and trying to bring troops home against Pentagon resistance and all the other garbage thrown at him?
They impeached and almost convicted and removed him for threatening to pull Ukraine aid if they didn't clean up their corruption, they would have convicted and removed over any made up issue if he had left NATO.
Now he will be in a better position with less RINOs, an R House, and the Ukraine war as an example of the dangers of NATO to America.

What a load of bollocks. I don't want to disparage anyone's views who want to vote for Trump, given the circumstances, which are horrible, but making false claims like this should not be permitted. In my opinion, the only thing Trump did well was appoint SCOTUS replacements. Which is something anyone could have done.

Trump did NOTHING to improve relations with Russia, the Middle East, or reduce American military outlays and occupations. Stop lying. We are not idiots. He helped with regime changes in Latin America like Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia, and put the Rothschild operative Wilbur Ross and arch-neocon Elliot Abrams in charge of the Venezuela regime change op, which failed, but still caused massive problems in that country which is WHY we have so many Venezuelans pouring in here now. He did nothing but tear up peace deals with Russia and Iran. He attacked Syria and inflamed the Middle East by moving Israeli capital to Jerusalem and saying the Golan Heights is Israeli land when it's not. He had Jared push the Deal of the Century plan which by the way involved removal of Palestinians from Gaza, further reduction of Palestinians properties in the West Bank, and unconditional support for Israel even during a genocide which he is still 100% backing. He never says anything positive or real about Russia and the situation there, all he does is cockily brag that he's so tough, none of this would happen, with zero articulate or sensible elaboration. Trump did not decrease the US presences in Iraq or Syria. His attacks on "ISIS" were bullcrap, after it was Russia that wiped them out, Trump said it was him, but it wasn't --- as a matter of fact, Trump intentionally let the ISIS groups OUT of Raqqa by busloads. Trump moronically bombed Afghani civilians, infuriating the Taliban even more. He was never going to leave Afghanistan. Every single thing I just mentioned was 100% under his total and unmitigated discretion. None of them were Congress-declared wars or commitments. Trump had complete authority to close them all out in one freaking day if he ever ordered it. He blamed the Covid crisis on China over and over again, advanced nothing about Covid truth, 9/11 truth, JFK truth, or anything else. He approved all this corpoate raiders in positions of power and stewardship over our national heritage and purse, and they made billions. He allowed the Covid to spread and lost the narrative with nonsensical knee-jerk reactions and irresponsible fast track vaccine approval that even Fauci was initially against, before Trump bossed him into saying it was ok (who knows what he threatened him with).. anyone who didn't agree with him was berated not with intelligence or sound reasoning, but with puerile insults. Then, after promising the moon to anyone who would vote for him, signing on to stimulus packages (some of which sent billions to Israelis), others which sent millions into quickly-filed companies in the Trump network that did no real business, and no oversight over the distribution of billions in corporate "aid" packages handed out by Mnuchin, Trump lost the election because in a handful of purple states, there were just enough people who were sick of him. Then, he tried to bully governors and legislatures and convince the public that he coudn't possibly have actually lost, it was a rig job, because nobody in their right mind wouldn't want him to be president again, so he got up and inspired thousands of "patriots" to march INTO the Capitol, stop the transition of power from happening, sit in the chambers, and occupy the chambers with riotous intent. Trump did NOTHING to force governors and mayors of sanctuary states to folow Federal immigration laws. Trump's attitude of thin skin, immature language, non-transparent government and cronyism in American cabinet positions is a bad example to follow.

I'm done but to call his a great presidency is too much for any intelligent person. People who want to vote for him -- go ahead, I understand. But you'll have to understand our point of view also -- that we'll take a pass.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If reports are true—and, in that regard, the website name www.kennedyshanahan.com was reportedly registered by one of his campaign operatives on March 13—Mr. Kennedy has chosen attorney Nicole Shanahan as his running mate.

I find this bizarre, to say the least, not to mention disappointing.

Whatever his intentions, such a ticket would drive this country even further apart because Ms. Shanahan is a self-described “progressive.” But that’s only the tip of a disturbing iceberg I will get to in a minute.

Let’s start with this. Mr. Kennedy, of all people, should know that the basic requirement for a vice presidential candidate, now more than ever, is that a person be qualified to assume the presidency at a moment’s notice.

We have had disasters in that regard, dodging several bullets, including vice presidents Spiro Agnew, Mike Pence, and (for now, holding one’s breath) Kamala Harris.

Mr. Trump has made clear that qualification for the presidency is now his first consideration, as it should be.

What do we know of Ms. Shanahan?

Not much, except that she is a philanthropist to largely progressive causes and that she is very rich.

She reportedly helped pay for Mr. Kennedy’s Super Bowl ad to the tune of $4 million via a Super PAC. The ad got mixed reviews and ended up with the candidate apologizing to his family

How rich Ms. Shanahan really is is unclear, but it is clear the bulk of her money comes from her divorce from Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google and, depending on the source, the ninth richest man on the planet.

RFK Jr’s campaign had been luffing and needed a boost. He looked to the financial. It’s hard to blame him, because that’s the putrid state of American politics. But if you’re trying to run an honest broker campaign against corrupt traditional parties, it’s not the best approach. It’s actually a turn-off.

This is rather sad because of the optimism and excitement he initially engendered.

It was said that much of RFK Jr’s appeal was with the more libertarian right, not the increasingly leftist Democrats. I thought that was accurate. I would imagine that unfortunately those days are over if the nomination of the “progressive” Ms. Shanahan is real. Who will RFK Jr. appeal to now?

Of course the candidate is not confirming this nomination until March 26. We shall see.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rfk-jr-destroys-his-candidacy-vp-pick