RFK Jr.'s 2024 POTUS campaign

[69360]

I wonder if RFK Jr will be included in the presidential debates, assuming there are any? He is polling double digits consistently already.

Trump and Biden are both the least popular choices in generations and half the country thinks they are too old to run in recent polls. It could be RFK jr's time now, but I still suspect if he gains traction he will meet the fate of his uncle and father. Or at least get his own version of the newsletter story from the MSM.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I wonder if RFK Jr will be included in the presidential debates, assuming there are any? He is polling double digits consistently already.

Trump and Biden are both the least popular choices in generations and half the country thinks they are too old to run in recent polls. It could be RFK jr's time now, but I still suspect if he gains traction he will meet the fate of his uncle and father. Or at least get his own version of the newsletter story from the MSM.

LOL
That must be why Trump keeps smashing record after record.

 

[CaptUSA]

YouTube is up to their old tricks with this ad... They didn't take it down, but try searching for it... Oh, the games the play.

 

[Valli6]

had to apologize to family members over 60s ad

He just ran one of his uncle's 1960 ads during the Super Bowl with his pic pasted in.

Cousin Bobby Shriver mad.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. apologized to his family members after a super PAC backing his independent bid for the White House aired a commercial during the Super Bowl on Sunday night.

“I’m so sorry if the Super Bowl advertisement caused anyone in my family pain. The ad was created and aired by the American Values Super PAC without any involvement or approval from my campaign. FEC rules prohibit Super PACs from consulting with me or my staff. I love you all. God bless you,” Kennedy wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

American Values 2024 ran a 30-second ad during the Super Bowl that heavily relied on imagery from former President John F. Kennedy’s 1960 presidential campaign. PAC co-chair Tony Lyons confirmed to The Hill that the ad, which appeared just before the halftime show, cost $7 million.
Despite Kennedy’s apology and his claim that his campaign was not involved, the ad remained pinned to the top of his X profile as of Monday morning.

Bobby Shriver, Kennedy’s cousin, had criticized the ad in a post Sunday on X.

“My cousin’s Super Bowl ad used our uncle’s faces- and my Mother’s. She would be appalled by his deadly health care views. Respect for science, vaccines, & health care equity were in her DNA. She strongly supported my health care work at @ONECampaign & @RED which he opposes,” Shriver wrote.

The super PAC has faced scrutiny in recent days after the Democratic National Committee (DNC) accused Kennedy’s campaign of illegally coordinating with the organization last week. Kennedy pushed back on the allegations in a post on X.

more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4462770-rfk-jr-apologizes-super-pacs-super-bowl-commercial

 

[Liberty_Tree]

DHS Secretary Mayorkas Personally Declined Presidential Candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s Request for Secret Service Protection

https://www.globalresearch.ca/dhs-secretary-mayorkas-personally-declined-presidential-candidate-robert-f-kennedy-jr-request-secret-service-protection/5849557

These people should be publicly hanged.

 

[69360]

LOL
That must be why Trump keeps smashing record after record.

Yes, he has the record for most felony indictments for a former president.

 

[Anti Globalist]

I was pretty shocked when I saw the RFK ad during the SB. Didn't think they would allow him to even have one ad.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, he has the record for most felony indictments for a former president.

And that's a point in his favor that your side doesn't understand. (some are beginning to understand but it hasn't filtered down to you yet)

1 they are all flimsy.
2 they prove your side's desperation and fear of him.

 

[acptulsa]

... your side ...

You can't even play regular 2D chess. You're only capable of one dimensional thinking.

You can't make the first move. Pawns and knights aren't allowed to move directly left or right.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You can't even play regular 2D chess. You're only capable of one dimensional thinking.

You can't make the first move. Pawns and knights aren't allowed to move directly left or right.

Sorry, but you and your friends blew your cover long ago and I'm not going to pretend you haven't.

 

[CaptUSA]

...your side...

That stood out to me, too.

Just how many "sides" are there? Is it Trump's side and everyone else?

From my perspective, there are those who want power over others and those who want each individual to retain their own power. And every one of these politicians running is on the wrong side. At least Bobby Jr. is a disruptive force. Trump is an excuse for both of your "sides" to grow government power.

 

[acptulsa]

Trump is an excuse for both of your "sides" to grow government power.

Nicely put, but it seems to be too adult a puzzle for some to grasp. NPCs are a bipartisan phenomenon.

Give it moar!!!1!!

 

[Swordsmyth]

That stood out to me, too.

Just how many "sides" are there? Is it Trump's side and everyone else?

From my perspective, there are those who want power over others and those who want each individual to retain their own power. And every one of these politicians running is on the wrong side. At least Bobby Jr. is a disruptive force. Trump is an excuse for both of your "sides" to grow government power.

There is the uniparty communist side and the MAGA side.
Many posters here have demonstrated through their actions which side they are on.

RFK is not a disruptor, he's a wolf who only recently donned a wool coat.

Trump is the threat to the uniparty communists.
He's not perfect, but he's the best option available to MAGA at this time.

 

[acptulsa]

There is the uniparty communist side and the MAGA side.

Correct. Of the deep state. The demorinos and the loudmouths. Communism and fascism.

Fascism is slated to win. China has become fascist. That's your team, you'll be happy to know. Slightly more sustainable than communism.

Many posters here have demonstrated through their actions which side they are on.

Correct. And many have demonstrated that they can't see outside that false dichotomy, cannot comprehend free thought of enlightened self interest. Can't comprehend it, and often want to censor it.

RFK is not a disruptor, he's a wolf who only recently donned a wool coat.

Trump is the threat to the uniparty communists.
He's not perfect, but he's the best option available to MAGA at this time.

These are opinions, stated as if they were facts. And they aren't based on evidence, they were spoon-fed to you by sites like Breitbart.

 

[CaptUSA]

Trump is the threat to the uniparty communists.

Where is your evidence of that?

I try to judge things based on their results rather than the stated intentions of politicians. When you do that, it is clear that the power of government has grown substantially since Trump was in charge. You think that was despite him and not because of him? But to me, that doesn't matter. I saw both sides of the uniparty working together during Trump's reign to steal our wealth, indebt our children and rob us of our liberty. And why?? I'm sure you'll agree that they did it because of Trump, right? That whole 2020 psyop was because they didn't have their chosen puppet at the helm of the power - NOT because the guy at the helm was trying to give the power back to the people!

If you're looking at results, you can only draw two conclusions: Trump was working with them or he was too inept to stop them. In either case, their power grew. If you want to say he was inept, fine. But then his "threat" to them turned out to be their biggest gift ever. He had a chance to "Make America Great Again" and ended up doing the exact opposite.

I have no illusions that RFK will return the power to the people, but at least he can disrupt this grip the DNC/RNC has over our government. (until they kill him)

 

[acptulsa]

I have no illusions that RFK will return the power to the people, but at least he can disrupt this grip the DNC/RNC has over our government. (until they kill him)

He will just say you can't read.

He said that the guy who opposed Bill Gates' Mark of the Beast Jab, and is being suppressed by Google and every algorithm Fedbook owns (among others), is the tool, and the Ron Paul treatment and the fact that the DNC drummed him out of the party is 3D chess designed to give him street cred. And he said that the guy who funded Bill Gates' Mark of the Beast Jab, and gets incessant publicity in every MSM outlet, and has a (poor, as you noted) track record as president, is the outsider.

Now, you may think the theory is wrong or even idiotic. After all, if you pressed him hard enough he'd have to admit he's not GOD. But he thinks it is "his" theory, he thinks he is "his" theory, he tied his whole little identity up in it like a good little cultist. So, careful not to say anything against it. He'll take it personally and make you the subject of tomorrow morning's Swordsmyth Two Minute Hate Hour.

Because worshipping mortals and trashing their neighbors is what Christians are supposed to do.

 

[CaptUSA]

He will just say you can't read.

He said that the guy who opposed Bill Gates' Mark of the Beast Jab, and is being suppressed by Google and every algorithm Fedbook owns (among others), is the tool, and the Ron Paul treatment and the fact that the DNC drummed him out of the party is 3D chess designed to give him street cred. And he said that the guy who funded Bill Gates' Mark of the Beast Jab, and gets incessant publicity in every MSM outlet, and has a (poor, as you noted) track record as president, is the outsider.

And speaking of evidence...

RealClear polling averages have RFK at 16.8% right now in a 3-way race...
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy

And that's with the corporate press basically hiding him. He has to get all of his mentions from alternative media.

Meanwhile, the corporate press has been slobbering over Trump and giving him TONS of free press since 2015!

If you're simply looking at the evidence, it certainly does seem like the government cabal has gotten their money's worth out of the show. If they were going to fund an "opposition" candidate to help them steal the wealth of the country and grow government power, I'm not sure they would do it any differently.

In fact, Trump does better in a 3-way race than he does in a 2-way race, so why are the Trump slobberers trying to downplay RFK?? I mean, he helps their man. Unless it's not really about their man and it's really about more of your wealth and liberty they want.

 

[acptulsa]

In fact, Trump does better in a 3-way race than he does in a 2-way race, so why are the Trump slobberers trying to downplay RFK?? I mean, he helps their man. Unless it's not really about their man and it's really about more of your wealth and liberty they want.

I'm sure it's just the deadly sin vanity working in most cases. They said that the ex-president is still an outsider, and the guy who spent the last four years fighting the Jab, and whose uncle, father and cousin were all assassinated by the CIA, is an insider. And if they're wrong -- gasp -- how can they take pleasure in being arrogant ever again?

They're partisans, and what you say about one flavor, you can say about the other flavor.

How boringly predictable are these sorts. Weak, brittle, lost while thinking they have someone or something by its balls. I also find it amusing to note that such people are so weak of ego, so not in possession of themselves, and so needy of being "heard", that they throw all caution and self control to the wind such that, rather than sitting back and watching to see how it all unfolds, they make these dire predictions, wild accusations, and engage in second-grader name-calling for the sake of salving and soothing the collapsed train wrecks those egos represent as they lie to themselves about... well, everything.

You'll note that both Democrats and Republican partisans agree completely that Milei Bad. Neither has any real use for liberty, and don't want people who can do something useful with it to have the chance to show them up.

Their Flavor of Totalitarianism Tastes Best. There's No Room For Reason in That.

 

[osan]

I'm sure it's just the deadly sin vanity working in most cases. They said that the ex-president is still an outsider, and the guy who spent the last four years fighting the Jab, and whose uncle, father and cousin were all assassinated by the CIA, is an insider. And if they're wrong -- gasp -- how can they take pleasure in being arrogant ever again?

They're partisans, and what you say about one flavor, you can say about the other flavor.



You'll note that both Democrats and Republican partisans agree completely that Milei Bad. Neither has any real use for liberty, and don't want people who can do something useful with it to have the chance to show them up.

Their Flavor of Totalitarianism Tastes Best. There's No Room For Reason in That.

This is what I call "pretty slavery". To wit:

[h=3]Pretty Slavery: What It Is And How To Identify And Expose The Fraud[/h]

Several years ago I coined the term "pretty slavery" and have used it many times in my communications with others to convey the notion of the gilt cage. In a past article, I set forth the notion that freedom is an all or nothing deal. There are no "degrees" where freedom is concerned. One is either free or is not. There is nothing between the two. Degrees only present themselves under conditions of oppression and slavery where the master or tyrant decides what shall be allowed and what shall not. This is by necessity an arbitrary position regardless of how well intended the tyrant may be, for no matter how benevolent one's master, you are always subject to that over which you have no control. There is nothing in principle that constrains the master's hand; nothing to prevent his presumably reasonable base of principles from wandering into whim and caprice.

All that aside, there is nothing in credibly derived principle that endows one man to act as the master of another. The Canon Of Individual Sovereignty makes this quite solidly plain. Therefore, no matter how one attempts to slice the pie, he will find it quite impossible to concoct a logically valid basis for one subset of a population dominating another. Dominion over others cannot occur except as a felonious action where those dominated have not given their consent.

This may seem intuitively obvious when one looks to the histories of personalities such as Stalin and Mao, whose colorless brutality made obvious to the world that they were monsters needing little more than tail, horns, and a pitchfork to complete the image. Somewhat less obvious are the examples epitomized by men such as Hitler whose personal charisma and charm drew in millions of Germans who thereby fell for his lies and helped usher forth the destruction of most of the European continent and tens of millions of lives.

It is therefore not the obvious monster of whom we must beware, but rather of the one with the smiling faces of our beloved aunts and uncles - whose words soothe us, set us at ease and comfort, and promise us great peace, happiness, wealth, health, and endless prosperity. Their appeals and arguments often carry such brute emotional force that we are compelled to forsake our normally good habits of circumspection. We forget to ask the more pointed questions or pursue answers with yet more querying. This is a terrible error into which even otherwise intelligent, smart, diligent, and careful adults fall and it is rapidly proving to be humanity's undoing.

What, then, is "pretty slavery"? Simply put, it is the gilt cage wherein one is allowed enough of what one wants such that he tolerates all the other violations of his rights. The characteristic of pretty slavery that is the greatest danger is that it is tolerable and even acceptable to those who subscribe to it. In a great many instances it is, in fact, demanded.

Why, you may ask yourself, would anyone demand to be a slave? The answer comes in two parts. Firstly, the subscriber often is unaware of his status as a slave, usually and precisely because he can do enough of the things he wants such that he sees no reason to "rock the boat", or rationalizing the nonsense that one has to make sacrifices or cannot always have what he wants, and so forth down a considerable list. Secondly, he accepts the shackles of his status because he is seeking to get something at no cost to him, which is to say, something for nothing. He does not care enough not to trade away B, C, D, E, etc., if he can be provided with A.

There are many aspects to this and the layers are numerous and possessing many entanglements and convolutions with each other.

The gay man who wants to be able to marry his partner will be satisfied if allowed that privilege in exchange for his silence when the men in charge prohibit his neighbor from keeping and bearing arms because he has no personal interest in such rights or perhaps even disagrees with them. In other words, if the concerns of his neighbors do not coincide with his own, their rights become meaningless at best to him, and so long as he has gotten what he wants he will remain otherwise compliant and tolerant of tyrannies that do not touch him too objectionably.

The fundamentalist religious man, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or what have you is often more than happy to see the rights of the gay man trampled into the dust so long as that nativity scene can be displayed in the town square or his children allowed to pray in school. To those people the rights of their neighbors whose interests do not coincide, or in this case perhaps even conflicts with their own, mean nothing to them. Less than nothing, in fact, because he often finds them inimical.

Pretty slavery means lifting not an eyebrow when one's fellows rights are stampeded into the dust by law and those who enforce it with physical brutality so long as you have enough of what you want. Pretty slavery is the result of having been bought off by a mob of dangerous thugs whose tacit message to the slave is this: "now that we are agreed about what you are, the only question remaining is that of price." That is the pitiable truth about the man who tolerates his pretty slavery, the only thing differentiating one from the other being the price at which he is willing to sell his soul and those of his fellows, the latter being the sin for which there may be no forgiving.

Do what thou wilt with thine own life, but presume not to dispose of mine without consult or consent.

Pretty slavery is indeed a fraud because it is slavery that is masqueraded either as "freedom" or as being "necessary". We already know that it is the farthest possible thing from freedom, but what of the necessity angle that is so often employed with such nearly universal success against the average man who is either incapable of or unwilling to make use of his brain for something even slightly more than a hat rack?

We have heard nearly every president in our lifetime utter the assertion that "everyone must make sacrifices". Oh really? Says who? And what sacrifices are we to make? Who decides what they shall be, who shall make them, and who will be exempt? On what basis are these decisions made and how did the people making them acquire the authority to do so? These are but the first in a long list of questions that need to be asked and the answers, such as they may be forthcoming, must be very carefully scrutinized for odor.

I was once in a meeting that had been called by our district manager at AT&T. He attempted to foist this sacrifice nonsense upon us regarding a now-forgotten issue. The room full with about 70 peoples sat silently as the manager went on with his dreary dictates. At one point he said, "we can't eat steak every night, can we?", to which those present silently acquiesced, some even nodding in agreement. My close friend and associate, Charles, by that time had had enough and very unceremoniously called the manager on his baloney by asserting, "I do". The manager was so taken aback by the challenge to his phony nonsense that he really had nothing to say save to toss out his weakly offered counter that "most" people could not afford to eat steak every night. Upon what he made that assertion is anyone's guess, but in typical fashion the people in the room got all uncomfortable, which was very visibly the case based on facial expressions and body language, and remained silent. After the meeting adjourned, Charles and the manager continued the exchange and I admired his having taken a stand against the latter's ridiculous comments offered to make the decisions in question more palatable to his people.

When those around you, be they political pros, acquaintances, or even strangers break out their manure shovels and start piling on the bullshit about how your status as a slave is actually freedom or that it is necessary for whatever reason such as "fairness", it behooves one to expose the nonsense by asking the questions beginning with "why?" and "who says". Keep chipping away until the shoveler runs out of his stock in trade. Defy the lies by challenging at every opportunity those who perpetrate and perpetuate them.

Howard Zinn is credited with with the following quotation:

"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem."


Do as you will, of course, but may I respectfully recommend you reject slavery in all its forms, regardless of how innocuous or "necessary" it may seem?

As always, please accept my best wishes.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Correct. Of the deep state. The demorinos and the loudmouths. Communism and fascism.

Fascism is slated to win. China has become fascist. That's your team, you'll be happy to know. Slightly more sustainable than communism.



Correct. And many have demonstrated that they can't see outside that false dichotomy, cannot comprehend free thought of enlightened self interest. Can't comprehend it, and often want to censor it.



These are opinions, stated as if they were facts. And they aren't based on evidence, they were spoon-fed to you by sites like Breitbart.

That's a lovely set of leftist talking points you have, the establishment has done a thorough but incompetent job of generating talking points to try to undermine the opposition in favor of its controlled opposition.