REVEALED: Kid was interviewed by FBI two years ago regarding suspected extremist ties

If I'm incomprehensible now, and I think that is what you're telling me, it will only get worse if I try to tell my whole story.

My whole point, if I can clarify, is that when the FBI wants to watch someone, they really watch very closely.

I think that you write very clearly, in that I'm not detecting any non-sequiturs, so I encourage you to paint a complete picture of your story.

Also, I's sure that myriad individuals are targeted and harassed by people with authority/opportunity to do so, so I would love to see any case of someone breaking away from that.
 
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Oh I am! And that's why I have so many questions! But, like I said, we shouldn't confuse asking questions supplying our own answers (that we really don't know and are just guesing at to further complete our preconceived notions).

In fact, part of the reason why I hate these lingering questions so much is because it leads otherwise reasonable people to ostracize themselves by forming their own conclusions based upon conjecture. It's like their withholding information for the purpose of making us look like morons. And it works. I'm just suggesting that we stop taking their bait. Ask questions - don't jump to conclusions. The first part of this is uniting - the second, divisive. Don't fall into their trap.


But asking questions, they immediately demonized and ostracized the people and get them the label; 'Conspiracy Theorists.' So which is it?


When government has a long history of lies, obfuscation and subterfuge how can anyone take them serious? They have all the resources and tools at their disposal to set up, cover-up and make the people believe what they want to believe. Then they repeat it day in and day out on radio and TV until people consciously and unconsciously get it drummed into their head--manipulating their minds. That's how a true Psychological warfare (PSYOPS) works.


Doesn't anyone see where this little fiasco is heading? It is heading towards legislature (waiting in the wings already) to shutting the internet down. Our last vestige of freedom and liberty to gather information and think for ourselves! This morning I heard at least 10 talking heads talking about how these two alleged Boston bombers got most of their information off the internet. It must be stopped, so says the talking heads.

President Obama said the other day (paraphrasing): "Anyone who would bomb people are terrorist." My response is: "Really? Hey Mr. President, what do you call our governments actions in the middle east?"
 
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Re: 1993 WTC Bombing:

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Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad A. Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers. The explosion left six people dead, more than 1,000 injured and damages in excess of half a billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court in that attack.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/n...o-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html

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This is in the "paper of record". Must be a crazy conspiracy.
 
Oh Boy:rolleyes:

So lets get this straight if the FBI investigates claims of terrorist connections and does nothing, it is clearly a false flag operation.

If the FBI investigates claims of terrorist connection and does something about it, it is clearly a police state action.

Got it.
 
That would make sense if they were trustworthy thquietkid but the FBI uses informants, patsies and provocateurs in numerous terror related cases according to a study by UC Berkley and Mother Jones:

FBI organizes almost all terror plots in the US

http://rt.com/usa/fbi-terror-report-plot-365-899/

Here we find another corroborating article in the establishment's favorite "paper of record":

Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/o...s-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all

Must be a crazy conspiracy. Jay Carney told me so:

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"Welcome to the 10am press briefing where today I tell half of RPF what to think. Got your notepad ready RPIGA, Kaiser, CPUd, Capt?"
 
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Peter King was on Fox yesterday and said something like "I have been in top secret meetings for 9 years and I haven't heard anything" Well....if it was top secret, why would you say anthing about what you did, or didn't hear. TOP SECRET
 
Oh Boy:rolleyes:

So lets get this straight if the FBI investigates claims of terrorist connections and does nothing, it is clearly a false flag operation.

If the FBI investigates claims of terrorist connection and does something about it, it is clearly a police state action.

Got it.


Think about it for a second. the 1993 WTC Bombing... Why would they plan to thwart the attack by substituting dummy bombs? The first thing that comes to my mind is, they want to sabotage in secret that way they don't give away their inside spy connection with the network.

So, rather than trying to bring these networks down, they perpetuate them in order to have intelligence for the next attack. They try to get ever closer to the "ring leader" and uncover evidence of who is "behind the plot". They turn people who are connected in any way shape or form into "assets" that they can control.

Then they play the chess game, trying to gain further exposure of the "insiders".

This is all bullshit cat and mouse cloak and dagger that US "intelligence" community consistently fails at time and time again. The fatal flaw being the premise that there is some central "inner ring" that if you just take them out you can win it all.

No, they play the game endangering innocent lives.

In this particular case, if it takes 2-5 years to investigate a 19 year old kid (think they must of started when he was 14-19), then your investigation is not worthy of the time, money, and effort that has gone in to it. Especially considering at the end of the day, the kid STILL pulled off a terrorist action!

That to me is completely unacceptable, and makes absolutely NO SENSE at all! Total failure all the way around in which case people at the FBI who supported their lifestyles for 2-5 years investigation this case, need to fired immediately and never be allowed back into law enforcement/ intelligence ever again. Period.

But, they won't do that. Why? Because what I see as a failure is not really what is going on here. Is it? So, FBI, what is going on here? Oh, you can't share that information with me? Is that because doing so would expose some truth about the FBI that the FBI would rather not share? I think so.

Cause it certainly isn't the excuse that telling me what is going on would somehow "hurt" their investigation. Cause from what I can tell, their investigation was a complete total failure. So I don't buy the excuses for the FBI not sharing their information, or their secrets. The reason why they fail is because they keep these secrets.

Fuck that, every spy and anyone who plays that spy game, that terrorist game ought to be exposed right now. Including entire departments like CIA, FBI, Homeland, DOJ, DOD.

That suck at what they do, they waste time and money, and their results are just terrible. It's time to rethink what is going on in the "defense" of this country.

The fucking media praying it would be some white man from the south that perpetuated this shit. They are simply salivating at the opportunity and encouraging the FBI, CIA, etc etc,, to bust someone AFTER THE FACT (as always) so that their agenda can be finalized. Even to the point of setting it all up.

We all know it is coming to that. But, we'll sit here, and pretend, won't we?
 
If the government had been "cultivating" them like in most other terrorist attempts then the bombs wouldn't have blown up.
 
I am sure that the FBI probably interviews lots of people ,there is nothing to really get excited about on this. It just shows that no matter how big the government is that they can't always catch a person with bad intentions/motives. Don't blow this out of proportion,its just simply human failure to catch a bad guy,but can you imagine how many crazy people are out there that are probably interviewed yearly?
 
I am sure that the FBI probably interviews lots of people ,there is nothing to really get excited about on this. It just shows that no matter how big the government is that they can't always catch a person with bad intentions/motives. Don't blow this out of proportion,its just simply human failure to catch a bad guy,but can you imagine how many crazy people are out there that are probably interviewed yearly?

You should look up the underwear bomber if you think it was just a casual volume based mistake.
 
The FBI watches me 24/7, in 8-hour shifts. They create a written report of what I'm doing every 10 minutes. How many cigarattes I smoke. The toppings on my pizza.
Call the cops on them. Suspicious vehicles and what not. If you asked me, I think they might be selling drugs.

Gotta have fun.
 
Underwear Bomber Part II anyone?

My thoughts exactly. Consider the facts we know for certain.

1) Older brother should have been deported for his domestic violence conviction and was not.

2) Older brother was interviewed by FBI for terrorist connection.

3) Older brother made several trips to Russia.

There should be an investigation into this. No pre conceived notions. If someone "screwed up" then let him fess up and all he loses is his job. But continuing to cover up such "incompetence" should result in a serious federal prison sentence. In the old days soldiers were shot for sleeping on duty. Sorry, but I'm sick and tired of the "It must be incompetence" excuse. If federal agencies are incompetent to the point that people lose their lives then some members of said federal agencies should lose their freedom instead of the rest of us losing ours. If that started happening I bed you'd see a lot more whistleblowers coming forward.
 
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