Rev. Sun Myung Moon helicopter crash

[AxXiom]

88 years old and only recieved minor injuries.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-H6JMQSc6U3M2PAIuhmR6um9SPgD921I3000
Well, he does claim to be the messiah.

Washington Post;
More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be "reborn as new persons."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61932-2004Jun22.html"

Ooops! The Rev. Moon is such a fooler! 3 years before he tricked 'em the same way.

"Some of the Baptist leaders later claimed they had no idea the luncheon was sponsored by Moon and were clearly embarrassed by their participation in an event advancing the agenda of the self-proclaimed new messiah."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif131.html

Maybe since Bush I was so nice to Rev. Moon it gave everyone the idea that they should be nice to him too? Or maybe because he owns a great conservative newspaper-The Wasington Times

In 1996, Bush 41 was the featured speaker at a Moon-sponsored Buenos Aires banquet, for which he may have received as much as $100,000 according to the Washington Post, to launch Moon's Latin American publication "Tiempos del Mundo" (Times of the World). "A lot of my friends in South America don't know about the Washington Times but it is an independent voice," the former president said. "The editors of the Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington DC."

Bush added that he was certain that "Tiempos del Mundo is going to do the same thing."
http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=188

Anyways, I'm glad Rev. Moon is ok. He has many important friends in Washington and in churches all over America and there would be plenty of sadness today had he met with doom.



"Individualism is what God hates the most and what Satan likes best."
Rev. Moon
http://www.unification.net/1987/870125.html

http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/falwell.html
http://metamyth.tripod.com/q-kgate.htm
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/neil-bush-the-rev-moon-paraguay-and-the-us-dept-of-education/

Rev. Moon has soooo many friends and has led such an interesting life....Google "Reverend Sun Myung Moon" and see what I mean.

Peace,
AxXiom

 

[constituent]

there are unificationist fans of ron paul.

i wish they'd pm me back as i was really enjoying the dialogue.

 

[PatriotOne]

Aw yes. The "Moony" cult. Thank God they didn't lose their leader in that crash. Bush and Rev Moon buddies? I can not believe Bush is our President.

 

[PatriotOne]

there are unificationist fans of ron paul.

i wish they'd pm me back as i was really enjoying the dialogue.

Really? Not sure Moony would be thrilled with that. "Individualism is what God hates the most and what Satan likes best." Rev. Moon

 

[constituent]

Aw yes. The "Moony" cult. Thank God they didn't lose their leader in that crash. Bush and Rev Moon buddies? I can not believe Bush is our President.

i don't see how it's any stranger or more cultish than worshiping magic jesus.

 

[constituent]

Really? Not sure Moony would be thrilled with that. "Individualism is what God hates the most and what Satan likes best." Rev. Moon

yea, but he was hardcore anti-communist... hence on the cools w/ reagan/bush/et. al. (well, and the whole CIA thing).

makes sense to me.

 

[PatriotOne]

i don't see how it's any stranger or more cultish than worshiping magic jesus.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Mongoose470]

i don't see how it's any stranger or more cultish than worshiping magic jesus.

Worship of any power that cannot be proven is strange.

Say to a crowd you worship Peter Pan and you'll be carted off to the nut hut.

 

[PatriotOne]

yea, but he was hardcore anti-communist... hence on the cools w/ reagan/bush/et. al. (well, and the whole CIA thing).

makes sense to me.

Hmmm....not sure I see the difference. Communists aren't big on individualism and Moonie isn't big on individualism. Different shades of grey (control) to me.

 

[AxXiom]

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AxXiom

 

[constituent]

Hmmm....not sure I see the difference. Communists aren't big on individualism and Moonie isn't big on individualism. Different shades of grey (control) to me.

i agree with you. It would be interesting to hear a unificationist's take though.

 

[AxXiom]

I am unfamiliar with this site so I'm not vouching for it. I will have do some research on this.

First I have heard of it.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/101006a.html



The Rev. Sun Myung Moon's business empire, which includes the right-wing Washington Times, paid millions of dollars to North Korea's communist leaders in the early 1990s when the hard-line government needed foreign currency to finance its weapons programs, according to U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency documents.

The payments included a $3 million “birthday present” to current communist leader Kim Jong Il and offshore payments amounting to “several tens of million dollars” to the previous communist dictator, Kim Il Sung, the documents said.

Moon apparently was seeking a business foothold in North Korea, but the transactions also raised potential legal questions for Moon, who appears to have defied U.S. embargos on trade and financial relations with the Pyongyang government. Those legal questions were never pursued, however, apparently because of Moon's powerful political connections within the Republican power structure of Washington, including financial and political ties to the Bush family.

Besides making alleged payments to North Korea’s communist leaders, the 86-year-old founder of the South Korean-based Unification Church has funneled large sums of money, possibly millions of dollars, to former President George H.W. Bush.

One well-placed former leader of Moon’s Unification Church told me that the total earmarked for former President Bush was $10 million. The father of the current U.S. President has declined to say how much Moon’s organization actually paid him for speeches and other services in Asia, the United States and South America.

At one Moon-sponsored speech in Argentina in 1996, Bush declared, “I want to salute Reverend Moon,” whom Bush praised as “the man with the vision.”

Bush made these speeches at a time when Moon was expressing intensely anti-American views. In his own speeches, Moon termed the United States “Satan’s harvest” and claimed that American women descended from a “line of prostitutes.”


entire article;
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/101006a.html

 

[Uriel999]

Dude, fuck the moonies. An old girlfriend of mine has serious issues to this day because of that cult. Both her parents got involved in it in college. Her dad wised up, but her mom didn't and actually kidnapped her and her 2 other sisters once trying to take them to Germany once the dad got out of the cult. This girl and her sisters were all given weird names (that they no longer go by) and were told they would be important leaders in the cult...I don't remember all the details anymore cause this was years ago I dated that girl but she told me all sorts of crazy stories about that group.

 

[constituent]

Dude, fuck the moonies. An old girlfriend of mine has serious issues to this day because of that cult. Both her parents got involved in it in college. Her dad wised up, but her mom didn't and actually kidnapped her and her 2 other sisters once trying to take them to Germany once the dad got out of the cult. This girl and her sisters were all given weird names (that they no longer go by) and were told they would be important leaders in the cult...I don't remember all the details anymore cause this was years ago I dated that girl but she told me all sorts of crazy stories about that group.

sounds like alot of divorces. don't think there aren't wacko christians out there who wouldn't do the same thing.