Response to Obama Gun Grab

[Primbs]

"The President can desire to do something like reinstate the AWB all he
wants, but he can't do so without Congress passing a bill to that
effect and getting it to the President's desk."

That is a huge BUT.

When the first AWB was passed in 1993 we had a Democratic President, a
Democratic House, and a Democratic Senate.

"The next election following the passage of the AWB, we had a
Democratic President, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate.

The Democrats could not get either the House or the Senate back for
over a decade.

Gun owners are now MUCH more organized than we were back in 1993. A
lot of gun groups, like VCDL, didn't even exist back then. And the
Internet was not being used by the gun-rights movement to disseminate
information and to coordinate efforts.

Nancy Pelosi is running away from passing an AWB, saying that all we
need to do is enforce current law.

There is always a danger that an AWB could be passed down the road,
but for now, VCDL and the various national gun rights organizations
will remain watchful. VCDL will continue to focus on Virginia issues
as its priority unless national issues overcome us."

http://www.vcdl.org/

 

[Pericles]

Other things went down during the first two years of Clinton's term that got many people annoyed with Congress.

They passed NAFTA
They passed the Brady bill (5 day wait for handgun purchase)
They passed the military don't ask, don't tell policy proposed by Clinton
They considered the Hilary health care proposal

It wasn't just the AWB that got Democrats de-elected next time around, as much as the NRA think that they did it.

 

[sdczen]

"The President can desire to do something like reinstate the AWB all he
wants, but he can't do so without Congress passing a bill to that
effect and getting it to the President's desk."

That is a huge BUT.

When the first AWB was passed in 1993 we had a Democratic President, a
Democratic House, and a Democratic Senate.

"The next election following the passage of the AWB, we had a
Democratic President, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate.

The Democrats could not get either the House or the Senate back for
over a decade.

Gun owners are now MUCH more organized than we were back in 1993. A
lot of gun groups, like VCDL, didn't even exist back then. And the
Internet was not being used by the gun-rights movement to disseminate
information and to coordinate efforts.

Nancy Pelosi is running away from passing an AWB, saying that all we
need to do is enforce current law.

There is always a danger that an AWB could be passed down the road,
but for now, VCDL and the various national gun rights organizations
will remain watchful. VCDL will continue to focus on Virginia issues
as its priority unless national issues overcome us."

http://www.vcdl.org/

I think you give them too much credit. Many Republicans voted for the bill. In fact, they could have blocked it, if they were true conservatives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...e_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act_legislation

It just proves that 98% of all politicians are there to gain power and expand government. If you really believe that Congress and the Senate wont roll over to Obamas demands, then you have more hope than I do.

 

[xd9fan]

actually gunners did make it 1994 happen. Clinton even said it publically tying to put the blame for the loss on the NRA.......ok bill

IMHO Holder put his dick out in the wind to soon on this one. Nancy saw the damage and made sure the piss was on him. nancy wants her job.....even if she thinks she can still keep it.

 

[psywarrior13]

Well, I hope that this is good sign for us at the moment

http://www.house.gov/list/press/ok02_boren/2009_02_26_assault_weapons.html

 

[ihsv]

I think there would be a bigger fight this time around because of the internet. However, we know for a fact that the congress doesn't pay attention to what we want anymore, soooo.....

We shall see.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This will sail through in the wake of a mass shooting, and I'll bet any amount of money, as the facts come out, the shooter will be an ex military person, on any number of psychotropic drugs and subject to "mental health" conditioning while still in the service.

Yeah, a false flag, MKULTRA, government op.

 

[devil21]

I think you give them too much credit. Many Republicans voted for the bill. In fact, they could have blocked it, if they were true conservatives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...e_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act_legislation

It just proves that 98% of all politicians are there to gain power and expand government. If you really believe that Congress and the Senate wont roll over to Obamas demands, then you have more hope than I do.

And always remember that GWB himself said he would have signed a new AWB into law if he was given one. The lines between the parties has blurred so much that even circumstances back in the 90's are no longer a guide and to never make assumptions based on who controls the branches of government.

 

[akihabro]

Person who works at a gun store for 25 years hasn't seen it this busy since before the 1994 ban. I would really be shocked if Obama doesn't change the gun laws for the worse. People know this. Also we have a mess in Mexico and a crappy economy. Sales tax in is going up 1%in California (9.25%!)I'm glad I don't live on the border like that rancher in AZ who got sued by illegals and had to pay 70k, I'd want to set claymores.

 

[ryanduff]

This will sail through in the wake of a mass shooting, and I'll bet any amount of money, as the facts come out, the shooter will be an ex military person, on any number of psychotropic drugs and subject to "mental health" conditioning while still in the service.

Yeah, a false flag, MKULTRA, government op.

I agree 100%. FBI was just saying that "chatter" about something was picking up the other day. That means that they're getting ready for something. And by "they", I don't mean terrorists (they're just ghosts anyway), I mean false flag government operatives.