Respect Other People's Work and Don't Steal It

[Number19]

Copyright is pure evil...

In a "free" society, your opinion would be less objectionable. Intellectual theft could be easily settled with guns.

 

[fearthereaperx]

I did, usually YT takes care of it in a few days, nothing yet though. Good news is though, my video is back on the front page, and his is gone.

Why not ask him to take it down first?

 

[dusman]

Thank you so much!

Do you think if I did some vocal covers of patriotic songs people would want to use them? I was thinking about working on some patriotic songs and then ppl can use them as they wish, but I would like to at least be given credit as the singer.

I'm trying to figure out which ones are in the public domain. People can use my covers, just remember technically speaking vocal covers are an infringement of copyright... I don't want to be hypocritical here. lol

Yes, please. ::Swooning::

 

[MarcNY]

Lol these comments are funny!

 

[fearthereaperx]

I'm very anti-IP, but shit like this just pisses me off. A thread from tonight in General Politics:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...led-Over-Preached-to-Then-a-Citation-From-GOD!
has a video that is prepended and appended by ads and is obviously stolen from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QA9HbtbBqwY
The poster even commented on the original before stealing it.

Sharing to spread the word is one thing, stealing for profit is a different matter all together.

humming: If I had a Hammer.....

eb

Those ads popped up because of kenney chesney being played in the background. Chesney's record company is actually making money on it.

 

[fearthereaperx]

Those ads popped up because of kenney chesney being played in the background. Chesney's record company is actually making money on it.

and the orginal uploader isn't even the copyright holder

 

[Birdlady]

I fixed my sig and I'm working on America the Beautiful right now. Probably won't get done until at least tomorrow unless I can squeeze in some more time tonight. It's almost done, but at the last minute I decided to add a harmony line. If you think this is new thread worthy, then go ahead and make a new one. I am willing to put in the time to sing the songs as long as people would appreciate and use them.

PS. Yes I am a gamer. Always have been for some reason. I'm a dork! Last time around I made a Ron Paul stamp in TF2 and ran around pasting it in every game I was in. lol

I think you should put it in your sig atleast that you can do covers and you take requests! So awesome that you play MMOs too

 

[Revolution9]

In a "free" society, your opinion would be less objectionable. Intellectual theft could be easily settled with guns.

I like this and will use it often against those who advocate IP theft because a free society to them means everything should be free for them.

Rev9

 

[The Free Hornet]

I deleted my post now that I see Rev9 is banned. Anyone interested in my opinion can ponder on the absurdity presented here:
http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.asp
[no, I don't believe everything I read at snopes]

 

[Chainspell]

I fixed my sig and I'm working on America the Beautiful right now. Probably won't get done until at least tomorrow unless I can squeeze in some more time tonight. It's almost done, but at the last minute I decided to add a harmony line. If you think this is new thread worthy, then go ahead and make a new one. I am willing to put in the time to sing the songs as long as people would appreciate and use them.

PS. Yes I am a gamer. Always have been for some reason. I'm a dork! Last time around I made a Ron Paul stamp in TF2 and ran around pasting it in every game I was in. lol

lol i have a tf2 channel

yeah the sig looks good!

 

[Razmear]

Those ads popped up because of kenney chesney being played in the background. Chesney's record company is actually making money on it.

I was referring to the ads for E Global Foods that were pasted at the front and end of the same movie posted by the (maybe not) original uploader, not sure what Chesney has to do with it, or who he even is.

eb

 

[Revolution9]

I deleted my post now that I see Rev9 is banned. Anyone interested in my opinion can ponder on the absurdity presented here:
http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.asp
[no, I don't believe everything I read at snopes]

I got banned for telling an sports idol worshipping animal cruelty advocate what may metaphorically happen if he visited my neighborhood. I took one in the penalty box for the pleasure of telling the clown his attitude was worthless and troublesome. What could you have changed because I was "banned"?

Rev9

 

[The Free Hornet]

I got banned for telling an sports idol worshipping animal cruelty advocate what may metaphorically happen if he visited my neighborhood. I took one in the penalty box for the pleasure of telling the clown his attitude was worthless and troublesome. What could you have changed because I was "banned"?

Rev9

I assumed you were banned for talking about how you will use guns against forum members who advocate a position with which you disagree.

Originally Posted by Number19:
"In a 'free' society, your opinion would be less objectionable. Intellectual theft could be easily settled with guns."

I like this and will use it often against those who advocate IP theft because a free society to them means everything should be free for them.

Rev9

If you think you still have a leg to stand on, please use it to hop away.

 

[Revolution9]

I assumed you were banned for talking about how you will use guns against forum members who advocate a position with which you disagree.



If you think you still have a leg to stand on, please use it to hop away.

Lord snappin' armpits..you take a metaphor that has a connotation to it that if IP theft is condoned then guns may happen into play to those who are willing to protect them... you don't think that is true then try to breach Los Alamos and grab a nuke program..nothing but ones and zeroes to an IP theft advocate... and try to turn that into a blunt cudgel and swing that thing at me. A word of advice..your cudgel was much too heavy to smash an ephemeral metaphor.

BTW..I know what post I got banned for so yer apparently caught gossipmongering with yer pants down..<--yet another metaphor just in case you take that literal.



Rev9

 

[The Free Hornet]

Lord snappin' armpits..you take a metaphor that has a connotation to it that if IP theft is condoned then guns may happen into play to those who are willing to protect them... you don't think that is true then try to breach Los Alamos and grab a nuke program..nothing but ones and zeroes to an IP theft advocate... and try to turn that into a blunt cudgel and swing that thing at me. A word of advice..your cudgel was much too heavy to smash an ephemeral metaphor.

BTW..I know what post I got banned for so yer apparently caught gossipmongering with yer pants down..<--yet another metaphor just in case you take that literal.



Rev9

To summarize, you believe copyrighted information is personal property. OTOH, you believe a threat of violence against "advocates" of so-called IP theft is a metaphor. OK.

In a "free" society, your opinion would be less objectionable. Intellectual theft could be easily settled with guns.

I like this and will use it often against those who advocate IP theft because a free society to them means everything should be free for them.

Rev9

Sorry about your ban today. You had the right of it this time but you need to remember to treat statesmen with utmost respect however unstately their behavior may be. Respect your superiors.


Material from a different IP thread:

You can create and sculpt and torture the character. The issue begins when you start SOCIALIZING my idea to put profits in your pocket. You are stealing from me. What I see from this argument is that I should give up art and do drywall. But..My ART is MY PRIVATE PROPERTY I CREATED. I also see that your kind have no problem socializing/stealing others work but are against socialism. Next argument.

Rev9

For our betters who are not statesmen, this is a reminder. I have always taken the threat of arms against advocates seriously. This one by Rev9 wasn't aimed at me personally. My on thread complaint was removed when I saw Rev9 banned.


Edit: This post is not a request. Rather, it is a statement that I'm glad to see truth prevail - however little - as it did today. Rev9 got the short end of stick.

 

[sailingaway]

When I know it isn't the original, I try to find the original when I put one on the front page.

 

[sailingaway]

To summarize, you believe copyrighted information is personal property. OTOH, you believe a threat of violence against "advocates" of so-called IP theft is a metaphor. OK.







Sorry about your ban today. You had the right of it this time but you need to remember to treat statesmen with utmost respect however unstately their behavior may be. Respect your superiors.


Material from a different IP thread:



For our betters who are not statesmen, this is a reminder. I have always taken the threat of arms against advocates seriously. This one by Rev9 wasn't aimed at me personally. My on thread complaint was removed when I saw Rev9 banned.


Edit: This post is not a request. Rather, it is a statement that I'm glad to see truth prevail - however little - as it did today. Rev9 got the short end of stick.

I'm not quite sure what happened there, or what you are talking about re Rev 9, and I assume it was from whatever thread he was last posting in. However, I do think if someone works on a production it is theirs in a real sense, as a potter's pot is theirs. Both were created from work, and I don't see a problem with that, personally.

 

[The Free Hornet]

I'm not quite sure what happened there, or what you are talking about re Rev 9, and I assume it was from whatever thread he was last posting in. However, I do think if someone works on a production it is theirs in a real sense, as a potter's pot is theirs. Both were created from work, and I don't see a problem with that, personally.

The context is intellectual property and stolen in that context is almost invariably a reference not to theft but copying. Likewise, defending is a reference to preventing copying not taking the author's original or copies. It may be immoral, illegal, a copyright violation (rules vary), fraud, but it is not theft.

The crux of the issue - IMO - is the one-size-fits-all and heavy-handed approach that has become IP law. That heavy hand includes penalties for copyright violation that FAR, FAR exceed actual physical theft of goods. In fact, a guy in the UK just go 4 years in jail for conspiring to commit copyright theft. Had he actually committed copyright theft, he would have gotten 2 years.

We are not far off from where 'conspiring to conspire' will be a crime punished worse than either conspiring itself or doing whatever-the-hell it is we were so worried about to begin with.

 

[sailingaway]

I didn't say the laws shouldn't be different, just that there is ownership there and when you take the benefit of its use - by copy or otherwise - when you didn't do the work, you took something. Dilution without compensation uses value created by the creator. USING a potter's pot without permission isn't ok either.

 

[soulcyon]

@IP laws, they suck but if you don't want people copying your work there are better ways to protect them other than making laws.