Respect Other People's Work and Don't Steal It

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Sentinelrv said:
I just want to see people's opinions on this. I'm writing a book and I'm planning on selling it as an ebook, and maybe even having it published later on. I'll probably start selling it through my website for around $19.99 when it's finished. This book will go toward helping me setup my future.

My question is, do you believe in principle that it should be ok for somebody to download my book without offering me any kind of value or monetary exchange in return?

I'm just curious to hear what people have to say on this. If this was the case, it would probably discourage me from wanting to finish writing my book, because I'd be worried that I wouldn't receive compensation for my investment of time and energy in creating it. On the other hand though, I've heard research that claims books that are being pirated receive increased sales compared to books that are not being pirated. If this is true, then allowing your work to be pirated by others actually benefits the creator through increased sales. The only cause I can think of why this would be the case is that word of your book spreads more quickly because the information is easier to access. That coupled with the fact that more people will buy your book legally than pirate it will lead to increased sales.

So I'm torn on this issue. I have a desire to protect my profits, but does closing off access to my work help protect my profits, or does it actually decrease my profits by not allowing my work to spread to as many people as possible? That's an important question in my opinion.
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The reality is that you will have your book pirated today. If you offer only paper version it will probably not be pirated. It would be easier for someone to buy it for 20$ than to scan it and upload it. There is one exception which is if the book gets popular someone will put the trouble into scanning it and uploading it.

I think the best strategy is to offer the book in ebook format and anyone that likes it will most likely donate, by either buying e version or sending you a donation if your have something on your site that accepts donations. If it goes viral you will get a lot of sales. If it does not than you not going to recoup your time investment either way.
 
I've learned a lot from everyone today. Not sure why half this stuff is on this thread. Now I understand Bruno's comment right after I posted the original post. Here's my thoughts after all this.

My #1 beef is with people that redistribute other people's work under their own name with commercial intent. Linking to their own website and getting email addresses is considered commercial intent because email addresses are now considered a very valuable business asset. Look at Groupon for a great example of the value of email databases.

As far as using videos I've made, go ahead and use them. Please make sure my channel url is the first thing in the description and we have no beef. Don't even have to ask. It's not that we're looking for fame or riches. We are just looking to get credit for the work we do so people that like it will know who did it. We aren't charging anyone a dime for anything and only doing this to further the Ron Paul cause. Is it really that much to ask to get credit for work we do?
 
I'm very anti-IP, but shit like this just pisses me off. A thread from tonight in General Politics:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...led-Over-Preached-to-Then-a-Citation-From-GOD!
has a video that is prepended and appended by ads and is obviously stolen from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QA9HbtbBqwY
The poster even commented on the original before stealing it.

Sharing to spread the word is one thing, stealing for profit is a different matter all together.

humming: If I had a Hammer.....

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Razmear said:
I'm very anti-IP, but shit like this just pisses me off. A thread from tonight in General Politics:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...led-Over-Preached-to-Then-a-Citation-From-GOD!
has a video that is prepended and appended by ads and is obviously stolen from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QA9HbtbBqwY
The poster even commented on the original before stealing it.

Sharing to spread the word is one thing, stealing for profit is a different matter all together.

humming: If I had a Hammer.....

eb
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In the end does the word care about how it gets spread? I probably would never have seen that video if you weren't so angry about its commercialization to post it here. ;) Ultimately YouTube could fix this through technology if they wanted to. There is a "remix" tool that lets you remix your own videos. Say if it let you remix other people's videos? Then if someone clicked on your remixed video it should give the original author some sort of credit automatically too as well as a link to the orginal(s) video(s).
 
As far as you tube tools is concerned you should be able to video reply with someone else's video or suggest that the video appear in video reply box. This way one does not need to steal.

Also I don't know if they have this or not but they should allow someone to put their play lists on the main page. So aggregate sites could just link to videos of others. Youtube should also come with disclaimer that video put on youtube becomes public property and that unless it is a law (copy right would unfortunately be one of those things) infringement that it will not be removed if others have it Favorited.
 
Ok, I just uploaded my new Money Bomb video. It hasn't gone up in views like usual, and I have found out why. Someone else has downloaded it, and re-uploaded it as their own. This has pushed my video completely off of the YT search, and "his" copy pops up instead! He claims he "remastered" it, but all that he did was download, and re-upload. If he wanted to share it, all that he would of had to do is send out a YT bulletin, and favorite it! I believe this is against the YT terms of service. What do you think I should do?
 
Can I get the links for both videos?

Anyways Youtube is a private company and you do have a valid grievance, people passing off your work as their own. So file a complaint.
 
Yeah that would definitely tick me off. He is claiming fair use, but this is not fair use at all because it is copied in its entirety. He probably thinks getting around plagiarism means you only have to change 1 word and keep the rest of the paragraph the same. You can flag the video as inappropriate and select infringes my copyright if you really want.

IndianaPolitico said:
Ok, I just uploaded my new Money Bomb video. It hasn't gone up in views like usual, and I have found out why. Someone else has downloaded it, and re-uploaded it as their own. This has pushed my video completely off of the YT search, and "his" copy pops up instead! He claims he "remastered" it, but all that he did was download, and re-upload. If he wanted to share it, all that he would of had to do is send out a YT bulletin, and favorite it! I believe this is against the YT terms of service. What do you think I should do?
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Birdlady said:
Yeah that would definitely tick me off. He is claiming fair use, but this is not fair use at all because it is copied in its entirety. He probably thinks getting around plagiarism means you only have to change 1 word and keep the rest of the paragraph the same. You can flag the video as inappropriate and select infringes my copyright if you really want.
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yeah those morons need to be taught a lesson about respecting other people's work. and I dont mean verbally. beat them up until they change their ways. I have no patience at all, that's why I look up to Ron Paul, coz he is sooo patient.... I believe in force.

Youtube doesn't protect your videos if someone re-uploads it unless you threaten to sue and even then that's a muddy road. You can cite that your video was uploaded first and all they have to do is look at the date. That's why even tho I hate it I put my name on my videos at the very end so I can further support my claim.
 
If I made a video, I wouldn't have issues with someone reuploading as long as I was given credit. A link to my channel would be good too.

If any of you are making videos and not putting your name in the actual video itself, then start. However, if you put it at the very tail end, that can easily be removed, so stick it some place where it isn't intrusive, but also not easily removed. :)
 
Birdlady said:
If I made a video, I wouldn't have issues with someone reuploading as long as I was given credit. A link to my channel would be good too.

If any of you are making videos and not putting your name in the actual video itself, then start. However, if you put it at the very tail end, that can easily be removed, so stick it some place where it isn't intrusive, but also not easily removed. :)
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hey nice youtube channel! subbed :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcItGgDkLU
man you have a crazy incredible voice... its awesome that you're a ron paul supporter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnhqt0gWO4
I can almost see that one being used in a Ron Paul video

you should change your sig to say that you have these for people to use in their videos. such a waste if nobody notices :(
 
Thank you so much!

Do you think if I did some vocal covers of patriotic songs people would want to use them? I was thinking about working on some patriotic songs and then ppl can use them as they wish, but I would like to at least be given credit as the singer.

I'm trying to figure out which ones are in the public domain. People can use my covers, just remember technically speaking vocal covers are an infringement of copyright... I don't want to be hypocritical here. lol ;)

Chainspell said:
hey nice youtube channel! subbed :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcItGgDkLU
man you have a crazy incredible voice... its awesome that you're a ron paul supporter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnhqt0gWO4
I can almost see that one being used in a Ron Paul video

you should change your sig to say that you have these for people to use in their videos. such a waste if nobody notices :(
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Birdlady said:
Thank you so much!

Do you think if I did some vocal covers of patriotic songs people would want to use them? I was thinking about working on some patriotic songs and then ppl can use them as they wish, but I would like to at least be given credit as the singer.

I'm trying to figure out which ones are in the public domain. People can use my covers, just remember technically speaking vocal covers are an infringement of copyright... I don't want to be hypocritical here. lol ;)
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I think you should put it in your sig atleast that you can do covers and you take requests! So awesome that you play MMOs too
 
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