Respect Other People's Work and Don't Steal It

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Again, you are just proving my point on how naive you are on this. Just because you personally believe that it doesn't matter, doesn't make it so. Your right to private property should not infringe on my right to private property. When my private property shows up on your private property without my consent, you better believe you are on the losing side of the law. I'm frustrated you don't have more respect for that, because of your own personal opinion.

If I seem a little pissed off, it's because people on this same forum exposed me and my business to potential copyright infringement. I do not take it as lightly as you do, excuse me for that.

Naive? No. I do not care what some Legislator says -- they aren't the guiding beacon to morality, or truth. In fact, you would be doing pretty well if you just did the opposite of what they believe / do. A duplication is not me taking anything of yours, nor do I have any property rights if I must ask permission for me to use what I own in the first place. If I have to ask permission to use something, then I do not own it. If I do not have ownership, then there are no private property rights. You would be the first person to condemn the Star-Trek replicator I suspect -- even though no property rights would be violated, and it would be the best thing to ever happen to mankind. Rent-seeking is one of the worst forms of tyranny.

 

[specsaregood]

I don't see what is so hard to understand about taking 30 seconds to send a message to the originator asking for permission.

because if you don't give a crap what the originator has to say about it, then why bother?

 

[IndianaPolitico]

"The Congress shall have Power ... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 8

Just thought I would throw that out there...

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I don't see what is so hard to understand about taking 30 seconds to send a message to the originator asking for permission.

Should I have to ask permission from the Government to say what I want on my own property? If I do then I have not ownership, nor private property. I defend the principle. Personal behavior is an entirely other subject.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

"The Congress shall have Power ... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 8

Just thought I would throw that out there...

What does that have to do with anything? Why do the IP side do nothing but appeal to authority and skirt the argument?

 

[IndianaPolitico]

What does that have to do with anything? Why do the IP side do nothing but appeal to authority and skirt the argument?

Because the Constitution is important.

 

[specsaregood]

Because the Constitution is important.

some don't give a crap about that either.

 

[dusman]

Naive? No. I do not care what some Legislator says -- they aren't the guiding beacon to morality, or truth. In fact, you would be doing pretty well if you just did the opposite of what they believe / do. A duplication is not me taking anything of yours, nor do I have any property rights if I must ask permission for me to use what I own in the first place. If I have to ask permission to use something, then I do not own it. If I do not have ownership, then there are no private property rights. You would be the first person to condemn the Star-Trek replicator I suspect -- even though no property rights would be violated, and it would be the best thing to ever happen to mankind. Rent-seeking is one of the worst forms of tyranny.

Let's test your theory.

Post something that I have created and see how quick you get summoned for court. I bet you I win 100% of the time. Don't put it past me, I've already got cease and desist letters prepared for the next time it happens here and they will be sent out if there is any resistance to respecting my wishes to remove such work. I could care less if you are the most avid Ron Paul supporter on this forum.

Sorry, but anyone here willing to risk my livelihood, because of their laziness to ask for permission or their disrespect for the law, does not deserve any respect from anyone who has any decency.

Where is your so-called morality you speak of?

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Because the Constitution is important.

If the Constitution said slavery was A-OK would you defend that? All you are doing is appealing to authority and not addressing any of the arguments. It's lazy and a dangerous thought-process.

 

[IndianaPolitico]

some don't give a crap about that either.

Sad, but true.

 

[dannno]

Because the Constitution is important.

The parts of the Constitution that are important are the parts that are supposed to give us life, liberty and the persuit of happiness by saying that we have the inalienable right to free speech, to defend ourselves, etc.. not the part that makes government edicts about people's thoughts and ideas and calling things that aren't property property.

 

[Razmear]

Just as an FYI, all my work is CopyLeft, All Rights Reversed.
You may take any of my works and do with them as you like, with or without credit, so long as it's used towards the advancement of the Ron Paul campaign.
I expect many others feel as I do on this issue, but I haven't read thru the thread yet.

http://RonPaulMosaic.com has lots of nice pics you are welcome to use as you see fit.

eb

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Let's test your theory.

Post something that I have created and see how quick you get summoned for court. I bet you I win 100% of the time. Don't put it past me, I've already got cease and desist letters prepared for the next time it happens here and they will be sent out if there is any resistance to respecting my wishes to remove such work. I could care less if you are the most avid Ron Paul supporter on this forum.

Sorry, but anyone here willing to risk my livelihood, because of their laziness to ask for permission or their disrespect for the law, does not deserve any respect from anyone who has any decency.

Where is your so-called morality you speak of?

I'll make this easy:

What was stolen from the OP?

 

[dannno]

If the Constitution said slavery was A-OK would you defend that? All you are doing is appealing to authority and not addressing any of the arguments. It's lazy and a dangerous thought-process.

Excellent point.

 

[dannno]

I'll make this easy:

What was stolen from the OP?

Nothing. OP still has everything they had before, they haven't been deprived of their property.

 

[IndianaPolitico]

The parts of the Constitution that are important are the parts that are supposed to give us life, liberty and the persuit of happiness by saying that we have the inalienable right to free speech, to defend ourselves, etc.. not the part that makes government edicts about people's thoughts and ideas and calling things that aren't property property.

I partly agree with that. But that is what our "representatives" in Washington think. Alot of them think, "Oh, the first ammendment is important, but our duty to declare war isn't." I have found you have to embrace the whole Constitution.

 

[dusman]

I'll make this easy:

What was stolen from the OP?

Better yet, what is the difference of you physically coming onto my property to take something you like so you can put it on your property? That is exactly what is being done. Just because it's easily accessible doesn't change that fact.

 

[wizardwatson]

Doesn't this IP crap when taken to the full out extent ultimately mean that "creators" can appeal to the government to have my memories of their artwork erased from my brain?

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Better yet, what is the difference of you physically coming onto my property to take something you like so you can put it on your property? That is exactly what is being done. Just because it's easily accessible doesn't change that fact.

Just answer the question please.

 

[specsaregood]

Just as an FYI, all my work is CopyLeft, All Rights Reversed.
You may take any of my works and do with them as you like, with or without credit, so long as it's used towards the advancement of the Ron Paul campaign.
I expect many others feel as I do on this issue, but I haven't read thru the thread yet.

Glad to hear that you too believe in IP.