Rep. Thomas Massie: Trump is 'better than 90 percent of the congressmen I serve with'

[oyarde]

Massie is the future of Liberty .

 

[Mikezelot]

I am not going to hold this against Massie like I didn't hold the Cruz endorsement against Amash. They are both fantastic congressman and we should be greatful of their service.

 

[angelatc]

Thomas is one of the best.

Thomas knows how the system works, he has seen it from the inside. If you turn his statement around, he is saying that 90% of Congress is bought and paid for. Perhaps he believes that is the biggest problem with Congress.

As far as voting for Trump over Hillary, he is a Republican, so supporting the nominee after the decision has been finalized is expected. He represents others, mostly Republicans, so he's not as "free" as us mundanes to oppose his own Party. He is running for re-election.

If we use the glass analogy, Hillary is empty. Bought, paid for, and as corrupt as any candidate in history. She is the devil we know.

I thought about this all evening. Honestly, when he said he thought Trump was better than 90% of the people he works with, I had to respect that. He's right there in the belly of the beast. He knows the players far better than we ever will. We don't have to agree with him, but we are well served to respect his thoughts on the matter.

My husband is thinking seriously of voting Trump just because of this statement.

 

[TheTexan]

I am not going to hold this against Massie like I didn't hold the Cruz endorsement against Amash. They are both fantastic congressman and we should be greatful of their service.

Yes, they are Great congressmen for sure

 

[69360]

So who has dirt on Massie? You don't go from where he was to endorsing Trump without blackmail of some sort.

 

[loveshiscountry]

So who has dirt on Massie? You don't go from where he was to endorsing Trump without blackmail of some sort.

Based on what? You read his statement. We're supposed to better than boobus.

 

[69360]

Based on what? You read his statement. We're supposed to better than boobus.

Exactly. We reject both, not choose the lesser of two evils. Massie did and it's out of line with his past record. Don't you question why?

 

[CPUd]

Exactly. We reject both, not choose the lesser of two evils. Massie did and it's out of line with his past record. Don't you question why?

Well if he feels that way about 90% of the Congress, I'd say this is probably not the best time for him to be making enemies.

 

[CPUd]

There is a GOP POTUS nominee who is even today going out there attacking other GOP. Massie's district could also have a lot of Trumpers, or at least party loyalists.

 

[hells_unicorn]

Tsk tsk, the "liberty" gestapo appears to be at it again.

Anybody ever consider the possibility that maybe Massie did this because he's a realist rather than a fanatical ideologue living in the land of make-believe?

 

[loveshiscountry]

Exactly. We reject both, not choose the lesser of two evils. Massie did and it's out of line with his past record. Don't you question why?

He explained. I didn't look beyond that. And I didn't consider blackmail either.

 

[Seraphim]

All he really said was that Trump is better then 90% of Congresscritters.

It's likely true.

It might be worth voting for Trump on the simple basis that Hitlery is a guaranteed atrocity for America (and the world). Trump may actually bring some redeeming value (no I don't like him as President...but even a sliver of decency is literally infinitely better then that vampire Clinton).

Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Trump may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile woman away from the Oval Office.

This is not an endorsement for Trump - it's a desperate endorsement for anything but Clinton and only 1 man has a shot at winning.

 

[CPUd]

All he really said was that Trump is better then 90% of Congresscritters.

It's likely true.

It might be worth voting for Trump on the simple basis that Hitlery is a guaranteed atrocity for America (and the world). Trump may actually bring some redeeming value (no I don't like him as President...but even a sliver of decency is literally infinitely better then that vampire Clinton).

Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Trump may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile woman away from the Oval Office.

This is not an endorsement for Trump - it's a desperate endorsement for anything but Clinton and only 1 man has a shot at winning.

Voting against candidates is what allowed the govt to get into the position it is in now. I always believe people should vote for candidates.

 

[Seraphim]

Voting against candidates is what allowed the govt to get into the position it is in now. I always believe people should vote for candidates.

from my original statement:

"Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Trump may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile woman away from the Oval Office."

 

[surf]

from my original statement:

"Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Trump may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile woman away from the Oval Office."

saw something similar in my newspaper the other day Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Clinton may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile man away from the Oval Office

i'm glad i'm not in your seat having to decide whether or not to drop most of my liberty principals and vote for someone widely regarded as evil w/little dick syndrome.

 

[Seraphim]

I wouldn't vote for him.

saw something similar in my newspaper the other day Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Clinton may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile man away from the Oval Office

i'm glad i'm not in your seat having to decide whether or not to drop most of my liberty principals and vote for someone widely regarded as evil w/little dick syndrome.

 

[Feelgood]

Good thing Massie doesnt post in these forums, he would be crucified.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Voting the lesser of two evils should rarely be considered (I.e vote instead for the principled 3rd party like Ron Paul) BUT in this case a vote for Trump may be needed as a strategic effort to keep that vile woman away from the Oval Office.

This is not an endorsement for Trump - it's a desperate endorsement for anything but Clinton and only 1 man has a shot at winning.

Yeah, um ... no. Just no.

I voted for Bill Clinton in '92. I didn't give a damn about him, though.

I just knew I hated Bush (and c'mon, I mean, there's just no way Clinton could've been any worse, amirite? Amirite ... ?)

Never again.

"Be careful what you wish for - you just might get it ..."

Voting against candidates is what allowed the govt to get into the position it is in now. I always believe people should vote for candidates.

If you are going to vote at all, then THIS ^^^^^!!!

The only person I've ever voted for since '92 was Harry Browne.

(I caucused for Ron Paul in 2012, if that counts.)

 

[Suzanimal]

Voting against candidates is what allowed the govt to get into the position it is in now. I always believe people should vote for candidates.

Agree.

I love Massie. I'm not going to hold a vote against anyone in a year like this. I don't hold it against anyone on the forum and I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot over Massie's vote, either.

 

[nikcers]

I disagree, look at the polls on Bernie Sanders supporters and how many of them also supported Rand Paul. Trump will never get the Bernie Coalition, Rand would of easliy destroyed Clinton in the general election.