Remain calm, we have a long-term campaign strategy

tennman: Can we use your black belt marketing expertise then to help devise strategy on how to get our key demo -- young voters -- to go to the polls in greater numbers?

My feeling is that ads are pointless. You're running them on TV, and what else is on TV...negative story after mispresentation after outright lie about Paul and the campaign, or they just ignore him like he's not a player.

We have to work on the ground, underground. Get our people out in the greatest numbers anyone has ever seen.

So, marketing black belt...help us.
 
The odds and the numbers favor Ron leaving the GOP and starting a national 3rd party campaign right now. Oh well educational campaign 2.0
 
SC = Neo-Con Central. We knew this comeing in guys. FL won't be any better. The campaign also knew this, thats why they got ahead of the other campaigns and opened HQ's in many different caucus states after FL, to pickup less Neo-Con states.
 
No Official Presence in South Carolina.....NONE, ZERO, NATTA!!!! Ron went home for four days right after New Hampshire's second place finish and lost all of the Momentum!!!!

That was the BIG CLUE that the Official Campaign was not going to seriously challenge in South Carolina.

Any improvement from the 3.62% that Ron Paul received can be attributed directly to the RP Grassroots in South Carolina.

Florida started early voting today, and yes just like South Carolina there is NO Official Campaign presence in the Sunshine State.

All Grassroots, all of the time. Our total in Florida may not reach 10%. Pray we can still be viable in February!!!
 
tennman said:
Oh geez. We don't have time to "remain calm." I'm a freaking marketing black belt. I've consulted with Universal Studios and a bunch of other corporations and I will freaking say this right now. If the campaign doesn't get on top of the following two things RIGHT NOW Paul will get embarassed even if it's down to two people.

1. Electability. PLEASE make ads with the CNN polls showing Paul ties with Obama unlike the others (except Romney). How this hasn't happened yet is beyond me.
2. Foreign policy. You've got to pound away that it's not that Paul is weak on this but that he wants to protect our borders and our currency and make us safer by not stirring up hornet's nests. And that we're currerntly funding our enemies and Israel's enemies and Ron Paul would stop it.

Address that. Get ads on that or hang it up. That's all there is to it. It is so freaking frustrating watching one of my heros have a mismanaged campaign and I just don't get how these obvious things haven't been seen and jumped on.
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I think the campaign is starting to hear us calling for these things. In the MSNBC interview Wead did earlier today, he did mention the National Polls where Paul is tying with Obama, giving some support to his electability in todays interview. The lady said, " Thanks for making us aware of that" Like they don't know.
 
Should be motivation for everyone to get out, pound the pavement, phone bank, etc instead of bitching on an internet forum about what the campaign should do. /rant

:p
 
MJU1983 said:
I'm not gonna let South Carolina get me down. I wrote those assholes off after they booed the Golden Rule. :cool:
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Yeah me too. That was ridiculous. Don't think south Carolina is a place I would visit unless it was a life or death situation.
Honestly the results show how screwed up the south can be.
 
SaulPaulinsky said:
tennman: Can we use your black belt marketing expertise then to help devise strategy on how to get our key demo -- young voters -- to go to the polls in greater numbers?

My feeling is that ads are pointless. You're running them on TV, and what else is on TV...negative story after mispresentation after outright lie about Paul and the campaign, or they just ignore him like he's not a player.
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Yeah, Ron Paul does best on the internet, and we need to harvest that somehow. Would be great if somehow foreigners had a way to help out too like directly tweeting youths to GOTV?
 
South Carolina is the heart of the Military-Industrial Complex, which Ron has been fighting for decades. The results are of little to no surprise at all. At first I was angry, but then I remembered this.

Gingrich is stomping Romney now, and all it took was a two word quote from Andrew Jackson to seal the deal. Newt is an expert politician.
 
seawolf said:
No Official Presence in South Carolina.....NONE, ZERO, NATTA!!!! Ron went home for four days right after New Hampshire's second place finish and lost all of the Momentum!!!!

That was the BIG CLUE that the Official Campaign was not going to seriously challenge in South Carolina.

Any improvement from the 3.62% that Ron Paul received can be attributed directly to the RP Grassroots in South Carolina.

Florida started early voting today, and yes just like South Carolina there is NO Official Campaign presence in the Sunshine State.

All Grassroots, all of the time. Our total in Florida may not reach 10%. Pray we can still be viable in February!!!
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Florida is not proportional and Paul has very little chance of beating Romney in that state which is very expensive to advertise in.
 
MJU1983 said:
Should be motivation for everyone to get out, pound the pavement, phone bank, etc instead of bitching on an internet forum about what the campaign should do. /rant

:p
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+rep It is one thing to discuss strategy and speculate on outcomes. It is another thing entirely to bitch and moan about the citizens of state where the campaign spent very little time and money marketing the candidate.

All of these so called "assholes" and "idiots" in SC are going to be needed by Paul if and when he wins the nomination so that he can win the general election.
 
Bruno said:
Florida is not proportional and Paul has very little chance of beating Romney in that state which is very expensive to advertise in.
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Exactly it is a ROI issue plain and simple. Can Paul win FL? Possibly, if he spends $10 million in the next week on advertising, and campaigns there 12 hours per day for the next 10 days. But the same amount of money would secure a ton more delegates in the contests ahead.
 
Bruno......I understand, but with South Carolina's results tonight and a likely worse finish in Florida, we are not getting closer to winning a State, but further away....much further away!!!

We will be crucified in the Media, as irrelevant and of course as they are doing right now, Paul cannot win!!!! And I am also worried about the Donations to the Campaign, it will be interesting watching the Ron Paul Donation Tracker and see if we can even come close to $100,000 per day in the next 11 days.

We are going to have to dramatically improve our finishes in early February!!!! The last 11 days of January are going to be very difficult!!!!
 
tennman said:
Oh geez. We don't have time to "remain calm." I'm a freaking marketing black belt. I've consulted with Universal Studios and a bunch of other corporations and I will freaking say this right now. If the campaign doesn't get on top of the following two things RIGHT NOW Paul will get embarassed even if it's down to two people.

1. Electability. PLEASE make ads with the CNN polls showing Paul ties with Obama unlike the others (except Romney). How this hasn't happened yet is beyond me.
2. Foreign policy. You've got to pound away that it's not that Paul is weak on this but that he wants to protect our borders and our currency and make us safer by not stirring up hornet's nests. And that we're currerntly funding our enemies and Israel's enemies and Ron Paul would stop it.

Address that. Get ads on that or hang it up. That's all there is to it. It is so freaking frustrating watching one of my heros have a mismanaged campaign and I just don't get how these obvious things haven't been seen and jumped on.
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Exactly!

I would add to that a high-quality 30 second ad that Ron Paul will not touch Social Security, but will ensure its existence by cutting everything else.

For the senior vote, Social Security is more important than anything else! That can not be overstated! Do you think if they ran a poll of seniors, "Would you be willing to lose your social security benefits so that the United States can successfully invade Iran?" what do you think the answer would be?

I wouldn't do just an ad, but a press conference/presentation on DVD that shows the Social Security system running in the red, and how dangerous things are for its continued existence. And then, how we can save it by cutting everything else. And then we get this DVD out to seniors, veterans and so forth. Save all the money wasted on mailing the Super Brochure.

Ron could turn his biggest weak point into his greatest strength.

A few other things to win seniors over is Rand, showing his family more along with wife Carol, etc..
 
South Carolina is pathetic. It makes me wonder if a good chunk of the most liberty loving Americans were killed off in the Civil War (not to mention the many other wars that followed).
 
Sorry, but acting like placing 4th is okay...is total crap.
RP placed 4th behind Newt and Santorum, both of whom have less money than RP, and both of whom RP targeted in ads in SC.

The fact the campaign did not, has not, and apparently will not address the foreign policy issue and target senior voters, shows me they are not serious about winning.
The fact that politicians in SC put their political careers on the line coming out and endorsing RP when they know how much he is hated, and to see how little the campaign has done to actually correct the misconceptions the public has with the foreign policy issue...is TERRIBLE.

Yay for the positive of getting more votes than 2008, but still, absolutely terrible campaign in getting the only issue holding RP back addressed.
 
Lovecraftian4Paul said:
South Carolina is pathetic. It makes me wonder if a good chunk of the most liberty loving Americans were killed off in the Civil War (not to mention the many other wars that followed).
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It is not SC's fault. The campaign did not maket the candidate in the state to have a significant enough effect on the votes. Little marketing = little votes.
 
I do run a site that has 10,000 visits a day, primarily visited by young people. I'd support Ron Paul for free.
 
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