Religion of Peace Strikes Again: 500 Nigerian Christians Slaughtered

[Pete_00]

Another violent religion: http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

That site makes the classic mistake of not knowing what is the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, with the birth of Jesusthe majority of those laws are no longer relevant. People who want to bash Christianity should at least know the most basic principles.

That site also makes another classic "mistake"...it doesnt mention the horrible racist Jewish Talmud. Militant-atheism always fails to mention the horrible Talmud for some reason, but im not going to expand on that.



Regarding the anti-islamism, all i have to say is that many that are behind this wars mass slaughters and attacks on freedom are christian-zionists. Names like Bush, Biden, McCain and many others come to mind.

 

[teacherone]

lets see now...

GWB-- Born again Christian, God told him to he was on a rightous path-- invaded two islamic countries, millions of muslims dead...

BHO-- Born again Christian, God tells him he's on a rightous path-- doubles down in Afghanistan, sends his second in command to Israel to state there is "no space between the two countries", sends drones to blow up civilians in Pakistan, implements sanctions against Iran, states that nuclear war against Iran is "on the table"--- thousands (millions?) of muslims will die before he's through...

General Petreus--Christian. Endorses the Christian book

Spiritual Handbook for Military Personnel, ... says “it should be in every rucksack for those times when soldiers need spiritual energy,”

whilst killing Muslims...

I could go on all day, but there's not much point in convincing religious collectivist bigots that every religion has been and will be used to promote violence against others.

 

[disorderlyvision]

I guess you are the epitome of devalued education.
1)sacred = worthy of respect or dedication
2)yes, I'm an atheist so I denounce all atrocities did in the name of religion. I wouldn't mind a complete ban on all religions - and since it's just collectivist thinking, I guess you people should support it.

It could be argued that you are the one who lacks an education. you're the one making yourself look like a blithering fucking idiot in this thread.

1. sacred has several meanings, none of which the constitution falls under

2. "you people"? unless you also lack reading comprehension skills you would notice I said I was an athiest. perhaps more evidence of your idiocy...carry on

 

[Pete_00]

I could go on all day, but there's not much point in convincing religious collectivist bigots that every religion has been and will be used to promote violence against others.

That is over simplistic, one can also say that Atheism, tyranny, war and collectivism always walked hand in hand. Christianism has a negative History but also a positive one. Atheism/Materialism historical record is 100% negative...

The concepts that Ron Paul promotes are products of the 2 Great Awakenings they are not the product of atheism or secularism or materialism. It was the 2 Great Awakenings that gave the USA personal and economic freedom, individualism and non-interventionism.

And people like you forget that this whole Evangelical-Zionist thing is an american product, maybe the problem is purely american and maybe you should bash america and zionism instead of Christianism no?

 

[teacherone]

And people like you forget that this whole Evangelical-Zionist thing is an american product, maybe the problem is purely american and maybe you should bash america and zionism instead of Christianism no?

read again please... i said "religion has been used to promote violence" ie... PEOPLE use religion in order to justify violence against people of other religions... this is a truism and cannot be denied.

the individuals guiding america's war machine are the following:

american, zionist, and overwhelmingly christian (with a few jews thrown in the mix).

 

[CharlesTX]

It seems like we've got some PNAC members posting here.

 

[tremendoustie]

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100309/ts_afp/nigeriaunrest[/URL]

I am tired of the PC that Islamic is not violent or intolerant. They attack where-ever they are a sizable minority. European Atheists, African Christians, Thai Buddhists, and Filipino Catholics are all far from being "imperialists", yet these people have been attacked and killed for simply existing. I realize our foreign policy instigates them more, however, there is definitely a violent and extremely intolerant wing to Islam that needs to be identified. I hate PC.

Wow, I thought Islam was a religion, only an idea. It's amazing that it as condensed into some sort of spectre and is now attacking people.

Edit: Oh, now that I read the story, I see that the murders were actually perpetrated by "members of the mainly Muslim Fulani ethnic group". It looks like these individuals are violent and intolerant. I agree that these individuals should be identified and stopped.

 

[AuH20]

Of course, it's not a religion of peace. Have you read the Koran? Do you see the way they treat their women and homosexuals? They make the fundamentalist Christians look like hippies With that said, it's a waste of money to interfere in their 6th century ways. Leave the Muslims alone I say.

 

[AuH20]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100309/ts_afp/nigeriaunrest

I am tired of the PC that Islamic is not violent or intolerant. They attack where-ever they are a sizable minority. European Atheists, African Christians, Thai Buddhists, and Filipino Catholics are all far from being "imperialists", yet these people have been attacked and killed for simply existing. I realize our foreign policy instigates them more, however, there is definitely a violent and extremely intolerant wing to Islam that needs to be identified. I hate PC.

You can be both isolationist and not coddle Islam. I assume you are of that stripe. Are you?

 

[disorderlyvision]

That is over simplistic, ... Atheism/Materialism historical record is 100% negative...

Funny that you would say the comment about religion was "overly simplistic, and then follow it up saying the history of atheism is 100% negative. you are a tool

Of course, it's not a religion of peace. Have you read the Koran? Do you see the way they treat their women and homosexuals? They make the fundamentalist Christians look like hippies With that said, it's a waste of money to interfere in their 6th century ways. Leave the Muslims alone I say.

Likewise, Christianity is not a religion of peace. Have you ever read the bible? Christians track record with women and gays is just as bad.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100309/ts_afp/nigeriaunrest

I am tired of the PC that Islamic is not violent or intolerant. They attack where-ever they are a sizable minority. European Atheists, African Christians, Thai Buddhists, and Filipino Catholics are all far from being "imperialists", yet these people have been attacked and killed for simply existing. I realize our foreign policy instigates them more, however, there is definitely a violent and extremely intolerant wing to Islam that needs to be identified. I hate PC.

Some things to point out, even though I agree with your general statement:

1. This has a lot to do with the African way of doing things, ever since the Europeans left. Their method of warfare is simply exterminating the rival tribe/faction (Rwanda, Darfur, Congo, etc.)

2. This slaughter was supposedly retaliation for an massacre by Christians
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704869304575109962258328770.html

Therefore, it is clear that Religion, Tribalism, and the blowback from European imperialism are the problem. Not Islam specifically

 

[Pete_00]

Funny that you would say the comment about religion was "overly simplistic, and then follow it up saying the history of atheism is 100% negative. you are a tool



Likewise, Christianity is not a religion of peace. Have you ever read the bible? Christians track record with women and gays is just as bad.

Its a FACT that atheism/materialism historical record is a complete disaster. Every society that adopted atheist/materialist perspective became decadent opressive and ultimately a doomed society. If you can show me ONE exception, just ONE please show it to me...tool.

Christian track record on women is better than anyone´s else. Western Christian Civilization was always ahead. It was your materialism/atheism/anti-christianism and sexual libertanism and the media that promotes all this that transformed women into a vagina and a pair of breasts that can vote...

Gays? Ancient Greece, accepted homosexuality and meet disaster. Roman Empire accepted homosexuality and meet disaster. Germany in the 20´s and 30´s accepted homosexuality and meet disaster. There are many more examples (France before the revolution, Russia before the revolution, etc, etc) The homosexual historical record is very very clear...thats one of the reasons the Bible warns us that homosexuality is the nº1 sin, no civilization survived homosexuality and our transistors and internet wont make us different from the Greeks, Romans or Germans. History also shows that homosexuality is the perfect "Canary in the Coal Mine", a society that accepts homosexuality is a society on a clear moral and social decay. Also militant-homosexuals are not poor innocent victims that just wish to be treated equally, they are facists that want power, how they are constantly attacking Christianity even when Christianity is no longer an obstacle to their facist plans is a small example. The New World Order and the Elite loves militant-homosexuals, they are fine soldiers of "usefull idiots".

I suspect you are probably a homosexual, facist militant-homosexuals who think the World must bow down to them and scapegoat Christians for their homo-related problems are easy to spot, and you dont care about women, you just mention them to camouflage your militant-homosexuality.

BTW...how were women treated in homosexual Greece, homosexual Rome and homosexual German Weimar Republic?

And here is a little something for you, Dave Chapelle trying to tell us something in half words regarding the homosexual nature of Hollywood and show busines: YouTube - Dave Chappelle On Secret Societies and homosexuality

And here he is again trying to tell us something: YouTube - Dave Chapelle breaks down the real deal shit about Hollywood

Justin Raimondo of antiwar.com is homosexual and i respect him very much. Militant-homosexuals, on the other hand, should join the leftists and leave Freedom movements alone...tool...

 

[someperson]

Some of these posts are depressing to read. I'll just link these again; maybe it'll allow for some introspection.

YouTube - The Philosophy of Liberty

YouTube - DVD Version INTRO Individualism vs Collectivism

 

[dannno]

YouTube - Dave Chappelle On Secret Societies and homosexuality

YouTube - Dave Chapelle breaks down the real deal shit about Hollywood

Those are some great clips.

That said, I don't think Dave Chappelle has any problems with homosexuality, though he himself is not homosexual. He has a "one penis per fantasy" rule, and likes to fantasize about sex with multiple women.

That also said, you're right about the elite's fascination with homosexuality.. however at the same time I'm not going to tell anybody how they can or cannot live their lives.

 

[revolutionisnow]

Of course, it's not a religion of peace. Have you read the Koran? Do you see the way they treat their women and homosexuals? They make the fundamentalist Christians look like hippies With that said, it's a waste of money to interfere in their 6th century ways. Leave the Muslims alone I say.

Pretty sure your great grandparents would have been more in tune with the current Muslim way of life vs the degenerate MTV pop culture that has taken over the west. In about 50 years, the moral fabric of this country has been almost entirely destroyed. This is not some accident, its been by design. Muslims are trying to preserve their culture and their conservative lifestyle, not trying to allow it to turn into this:

 

[AuH20]

Pretty sure your great grandparents would have been more in tune with the current Muslim way of life vs the degenerate MTV pop culture that has taken over the west. In about 50 years, the moral fabric of this country has been almost entirely destroyed. This is not some accident, its been by design. Muslims are trying to preserve their culture and their conservative lifestyle, not trying to allow it to turn into this:

I'm not a fan of wanton hedonism but I'm not about to condone murder. If you're a homosexual in many of these Islamic countries, you may as well have a bullseye painted on your back. According to the Iranian gay and lesbian rights group Homan, the Iranian government has put to death an estimated 4,000 homosexuals since 1980.

Remember Sistani, head Shi'ite in Iraq?

His Eminence, Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani, the supreme religious authority for Shi'ite Msulims in Iraq and worldwide, decrees that gays and lesbians should be killed in the worst manner possible, according to this news article from a London-based gay rights group.

A quick search through Sistani's official website turns up this page, translated as:

Q: What is the judgement on sodomy and lesbianism?

A: "Forbidden. Those involved in the act should be punished. In fact, sodomites should be killed in the worst manner possible."

Thus says the Iranian cleric who was nominated by Iraqis for the 2005 Nobel Peace prize.

It's one thing to mitigate their influence on one's culture, but to kill them? The liberty community should be running the other way from some of these kooks.

 

[AuH20]

Likewise, Christianity is not a religion of peace. Have you ever read the bible? Christians track record with women and gays is just as bad.

Unfortunately, some of the hardcore practitioners of Islam are centuries behind their Christian counterparts in terms of tolerance and co-habitation. With that said there is nothing wrong with being feverishly devoted to Allah, but when it crosses over into the unsavory extracurriculars (beating of women, state sanctioned abuse of homosexuals, detonating oneself in a marketplace, etc.) that's when I draw the line.

 

[dannno]

It's one thing to mitigate their influence on one's culture, but to kill them? The liberty community should be running the other way from some of these kooks.

That is actually the one single issue I have with Iran, is how their laws discuss treatment of the LGBT community. I have no other issues with them, I think they have a great and wonderful country, great people and a pretty good leadership who stands up to a world establishment that is trying to control everything. They also are not "centuries behind", Tehran is a great city.


Do you know what it requires for a LGBT person to be convicted?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran

Sodomy is proved either if a person confesses four times to having committed sodomy or by the testimony of four righteous men.

So essentially, if you have homosexual sex in private, you can't be prosecuted. Four witnesses are required.

I certainly don't agree with laws against homosexuality, but if more than three people have the desire to testify against a heterosexual couple for having sex, then there's something a bit odd even about that, right

Not trying to justify it, but it seems like the LGBT community in Iran is fairly safe in general.. I'm sure you can find some stats of "thousands" being killed over the last 20 years or something.. but how many have been punished or executed in the last 3 years?

 

[reardenstone]

I think the OP has a point yet has only received red herrings from everyone else.
Why are there radical Muslim terrorists planning attacks in SE Asia and in Africa? The article did give attention to the underlying land and tribal disputes yet there are urban examples in Egypt and SE Asia. Poverty can be accounted for yet in the article the conditions are only enhanced by the religious differences.
There are still examples in SE Asia that are not receiving attention because of PC avoidance.

Answer the questions without turning it back on the OP with a "What about Christians" distraction. Instead of sounding "neutral" and rational, many are starting to sound apologetic towards terrorism. Like anything they do is okay because of Operation Ajax. Charles Pena doesn't talk like that.

 

[disorderlyvision]

Its a FACT that atheism/materialism historical record is a complete disaster. Every society that adopted atheist/materialist perspective became decadent opressive and ultimately a doomed society. If you can show me ONE exception, just ONE please show it to me...tool.

If by society you mean government then yes. But it was religion (or lack of it) that made the "decadent, oppressive, and ultimately doomed" it was the fact that they had a government. I am talking about athiests from an individualist perspective, not a collectivist group mindset which you can't seem to dislodge your mind from.

If you can show me ONE exception to a government that hasn't been oppressive, just ONE please show it to me...tool.

Christian track record on women is better than anyone´s else.

thats funny

Western Christian Civilization was always ahead.

Really? always? western civilization is a modern construct

It was your materialism/atheism/anti-christianism and sexual libertanism and the media that promotes all this that transformed women into a vagina and a pair of breasts that can vote...

Oh I see, your panties are in a twist cause women can vote.

Gays? Ancient Greece, accepted homosexuality and meet disaster. Roman Empire accepted homosexuality and meet disaster. Germany in the 20´s and 30´s accepted homosexuality and meet disaster. There are many more examples (France before the revolution, Russia before the revolution, etc, etc) The homosexual historical record is very very clear...thats one of the reasons the Bible warns us that homosexuality is the nº1 sin, no civilization survived homosexuality and our transistors and internet wont make us different from the Greeks, Romans or Germans. History also shows that homosexuality is the perfect "Canary in the Coal Mine", a society that accepts homosexuality is a society on a clear moral and social decay. Also militant-homosexuals are not poor innocent victims that just wish to be treated equally, they are facists that want power, how they are constantly attacking Christianity even when Christianity is no longer an obstacle to their facist plans is a small example. The New World Order and the Elite loves militant-homosexuals, they are fine soldiers of "usefull idiots".

WOW! bigot much? Oh Noez the gays spell the doom of a nation. those governments didnt fall because of gays. they fell because of the governments own stupidity. You are an idiot

I suspect you are probably a homosexual, facist militant-homosexuals who think the World must bow down to them and scapegoat Christians for their homo-related problems are easy to spot, and you dont care about women, you just mention them to camouflage your militant-homosexuality.

Your suspicion is as wrong as your world view.