Relax.... : )

[RP4Peace]

Well said!!!

Ron's not perfect. He is the first to tell you this. But he has done more for the cause that none of you who spouted your criticisms would dare say what you typed to his face. The message is perfect. The messenger may not be, but I'll be damned sure to be behind him every step of the way. Will you?

YES!!! Absolutly!

 

[tremendoustie]

I'm not sure if all of you know about this, but the diehards who were rooting for Ron back in 1988 and who convinced him to run for POTUS all freaked out after the May 15, 2007 clash Ron had with Rudy Giuliani. I was not here until after Maher started talking about him in the summer of 2007, but that moment drew me and hundreds of thousands of other supporters into the fold. So, the diehards were wrong, and the influx of new folks was amazing. Now Ron is at 10-15% nationally, has unleashed three great advertisements, and has people curious about him at the very least.

The pattern at RPF has tended to be very critical after debates. Yet new people come aboard and say "What?!? Ron was awesome. I just signed up!" or "My neighbor loved what he said". Everyone needs to take a chill pill, go do something different and unwind. Tomorrow, we will see what has cleared and it's a whole new ball game. Remember, the highs are very high and the lows are very low. But it is all perspective, as one's perceptions lead to a low whereas another's lead to a high.

Mandatory Optimism. That's a two word slogan that needs to be used more around here. It's like a bunch of whiny tantrums. If I were a new supporter, and I lurked on the forum, I might have some second thoughts. I just think some of you go way overboard with your "chicken little the sky is falling wah wah wah" mentality. If you want to persist in being chicken little rainmakers, please do it somewhere else and then come back when you're not so negative and whiny. Constructive criticism is fine, but come on guys, some of you know you're taking it a tad bit overboard on the debate performance.

Ron's not perfect. He is the first to tell you this. But he has done more for the cause that none of you who spouted your criticisms would dare say what you typed to his face. The message is perfect. The messenger may not be, but I'll be damned sure to be behind him every step of the way. Will you? Time to seperate the wheat from the chaff. If you think the fence thing was controversial, you ain't seen nothing yet. This was open war from General Electric, through MSNBC, towards the only genuine anti-Military Industrial Complex candidate. OPEN WAR! Any one of us would be trembling with anger at the obvious slights that built up during the debate. We're just beginning a major battle, and like someone else said, time to man up!!!

It's Ron Paul or bust. Literally. And he's done as much as he possibly can. Time for you to explain to your friends and family WHY he is right, and what he really means. Otherwise, just give up right now.

+1000000

I don't use rep but I'm going to figure it out how to use it for this post.

Edit: Ah, I see, the little sheriff badge. Why is it a sheriff badge by the way?

 

[LibertasPraesidium]

Yes

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[tremendoustie]

Bump for the awesomest post on RPF this month.

 

[Romulus]

The media and crowd sucked! RP did NOT!

 

[kill the banks]

I think Ron will put those neocons wolves in tea party sheep fleece in true light ... Ron wins all his points !

 

[Romulus]

And thanks for perspective and uplift

NO LONG FACES

 

[archangel689]

If we can only beat Perry the Kochs will jump on the bandwagon. If we don't beat Perry, he'll lose to Obama.

 

[samsung1]

that hemmed in fence quip was a wry joke.
i feel things will look brighter tomorrow.
things will be revving up in a good way!

Ron was just throwing some red meat to the conspiracy crowd over at godlikeproductions and Alex Jones fans

 

[Corpsman4Liberty]

Showed some of the youtube ron paul debate clips to a coworker and he is currently reading the wikipedia page on "Austrian School"




Finally my work is paying off

 

[Butchie]

It's totally different. Ron argued well with Guiliani, just the crowd wasn't right. Ron did badly by the majority of crowds tonight.

Thank you, what positive spin are you putting on the whole fence thing, I had about 5 people watching with me that I talked into watching and they were looking at me like WTF and I felt the same way, I know Ron isn't perfect but honestly what in the world would make you say that, you have 30-60 sec to talk and that's what you say. I hear what the OP is saying but I would counter some of you need to stop with blind loyalty as well, if you would criticize another candidate for doing something you should hold Ron to the same standard.

I will always love Ron for what he's done, but try to undertand my point of view, they are asking me for money all the time, I am not rich, I have to make tough choices on where to spend my money and if his campaign can't do a better job at preparing him then it's hard for me decide to give what little money I have to them. BTW, I STILL think his Iran comment was phrased wrong, I agree they are no threat, so stick with that, why bring up about them "feeling safe", I hate war but at the same time I don't lose sleep over whether or not Iran feels safe.

 

[Chieppa1]

+rep. This is the reality. We're at war. Sorry, its true.

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

I just think some of you go way overboard with your "chicken little the sky is falling wah wah wah" mentality. If you want to persist in being chicken little rainmakers, please do it somewhere else and then come back when you're not so negative and whiny. Constructive criticism is fine, but come on guys, some of you know you're taking it a tad bit overboard on the debate performance.

Amen. My goal for Dr. Paul tonight was to follow up on the new ad and take it to Perry. He accomplished that. I think Perry may well suffer some damage from this debate.

 

[TexMac]

The problem is are we able to break that 15% barrier? I think yes, but something in me says only about 15% of the Republicans are actually capable of thinking for themselves.

Last campaign we were worrying about how to break the 3-5% barrier, so count your blessings! We are doing fine!

 

[Tinnuhana]

All of you that have a view of RP's debating skills from watching Aravoth's work need to realize that those grand RP moments were skimmed from the top of rambling, incomplete sentences, etc. Could Ron have done better in this debate? In hindsight, maybe. But the ideas are getting out there.
Also, I'd like a debate that's really a debate, with each candidate giving ideas on the same ISSUE, and then chance for rebuttal. For example, I'd like to know how each candidate would approach signing statements past and future. What plans would they implement in the first 10 days? How about their thoughts on big government vs small govt or the 10th amendment?
Would it be too much to have just one real debate? Maybe Jon Stewart could moderate it. LOL

 

[parocks]

Ron was just throwing some red meat to the conspiracy crowd over at godlikeproductions and Alex Jones fans

Right. They were onboard with Ron Paul when he announced in 07. The antiwar people got onboard after.

 

[CMoore]

Some of you folks are gutless wonders. Ron Paul is audacious, daring, and so very smart. Pause and take a deep breath and let some of this sink in before going ballistic. It takes a minute to understand the wisdom of the things he says. Tomorrow or the next day, you will realize how awesome some of the things he says are. He is a long distance runner.

 

[CUnknown]

Ron was just throwing some red meat to the conspiracy crowd over at godlikeproductions and Alex Jones fans

No, he was doing what he always does so well -- telling the American people not what they want to hear, but what they need to know. It was not just the right thing to say, it was politically smart as well, imo.

 

[CUnknown]

Thank you, what positive spin are you putting on the whole fence thing, I had about 5 people watching with me that I talked into watching and they were looking at me like WTF and I felt the same way, I know Ron isn't perfect but honestly what in the world would make you say that, you have 30-60 sec to talk and that's what you say. [...]

I'll tell you what would make him say that -- he is interjecting the police state as an issue into the campaign. If it is an issue, RP is greatly benefited. I don't think the fence comment can possibly hurt him in the long-term: either 1) it is ignored by the MSM, or 2) the issue of the police state becomes a part of the campaign. In 1), it doesn't hurt him. In 2), it benefits him.

The other thing that would make him say that -- It's the truth. Speaking truth to power is the way you attract people and stand out from the crowd of Ron Paul-lites.

 

[RonPaulwillWin]

Thanks for this thread. I watched the debate again, and it wasn't really as it was bad live....I have sweaty palms when it's live, also it's so emotional because I've been through these clutch debates so many times . I even made a yao ming face during the whole msnbc analysis because I feel like a hardened RP warrior. Can't wait till tomorrow.