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KramerDSP

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I'm not sure if all of you know about this, but the diehards who were rooting for Ron back in 1988 and who convinced him to run for POTUS all freaked out after the May 15, 2007 clash Ron had with Rudy Giuliani. I was not here until after Maher started talking about him in the summer of 2007, but that moment drew me and hundreds of thousands of other supporters into the fold. So, the diehards were wrong, and the influx of new folks was amazing. Now Ron is at 10-15% nationally, has unleashed three great advertisements, and has people curious about him at the very least.

The pattern at RPF has tended to be very critical after debates. Yet new people come aboard and say "What?!? Ron was awesome. I just signed up!" or "My neighbor loved what he said". Everyone needs to take a chill pill, go do something different and unwind. Tomorrow, we will see what has cleared and it's a whole new ball game. Remember, the highs are very high and the lows are very low. But it is all perspective, as one's perceptions lead to a low whereas another's lead to a high.

Mandatory Optimism. That's a two word slogan that needs to be used more around here. It's like a bunch of whiny tantrums. If I were a new supporter, and I lurked on the forum, I might have some second thoughts. I just think some of you go way overboard with your "chicken little the sky is falling wah wah wah" mentality. If you want to persist in being chicken little rainmakers, please do it somewhere else and then come back when you're not so negative and whiny. Constructive criticism is fine, but come on guys, some of you know you're taking it a tad bit overboard on the debate performance.

Ron's not perfect. He is the first to tell you this. But he has done more for the cause that none of you who spouted your criticisms would dare say what you typed to his face. The message is perfect. The messenger may not be, but I'll be damned sure to be behind him every step of the way. Will you? Time to seperate the wheat from the chaff. If you think the fence thing was controversial, you ain't seen nothing yet. This was open war from General Electric, through MSNBC, towards the only genuine anti-Military Industrial Complex candidate. OPEN WAR! Any one of us would be trembling with anger at the obvious slights that built up during the debate. We're just beginning a major battle, and like someone else said, time to man up!!!

It's Ron Paul or bust. Literally. And he's done as much as he possibly can. Time for you to explain to your friends and family WHY he is right, and what he really means. Otherwise, just give up right now.
 
The problem is are we able to break that 15% barrier? I think yes, but something in me says only about 15% of the Republicans are actually capable of thinking for themselves.
 
I'm not sure if all of you know about this, but the diehards who were rooting for Ron back in 1988 and who convinced him to run for POTUS all freaked out after the May 15, 2007 clash Ron had with Rudy Giuliani. I was not here until after Maher started talking about him in the summer of 2007, but that moment drew me and hundreds of thousands of other supporters into the fold. So, the diehards were wrong, and the influx of new folks was amazing. Now Ron is at 10-15% nationally, has unleashed three great advertisements, and has people curious about him at the very least.

The pattern at RPF has tended to be very critical after debates. Yet new people come aboard and say "What?!? Ron was awesome. I just signed up!" or "My neighbor loved what he said". Everyone needs to take a chill pill, go do something different and unwind. Tomorrow, we will see what has cleared and it's a whole new ball game. Remember, the highs are very high and the lows are very low. But it is all perspective, as one's perceptions lead to a low whereas another's lead to a high.

Mandatory Optimism. That's a two word slogan that needs to be used more around here. It's like a bunch of whiny tantrums. If I were a new supporter, and I lurked on the forum, I might have some second thoughts. I just think some of you go way overboard with your "chicken little the sky is falling wah wah wah" mentality. If you want to persist in being chicken little rainmakers, please do it somewhere else and then come back when you're not so negative and whiny. Constructive criticism is fine, but come on guys, some of you know you're taking it a tad bit overboard on the debate performance.

Ron's not perfect. He is the first to tell you this. But he has done more for the cause that none of you who spouted your criticisms would dare say what you typed to his face. The message is perfect. The messenger may not be, but I'll be damned sure to be behind him every step of the way. Will you? Time to seperate the wheat from the chaff. If you think the fence thing was controversial, you ain't seen nothing yet. This was open war from General Electric, through MSNBC, towards the only genuine anti-Military Industrial Complex candidate. OPEN WAR! Any one of us would be trembling with anger at the obvious slights that built up during the debate. We're just beginning a major battle, and like someone else said, time to man up!!!

It's Ron Paul or bust. Literally. And he's done as much as he possibly can. Time for you to explain to your friends and family WHY he is right, and what he really means. Otherwise, just give up right now.

Thanks for the perspective. + Rep.
 
It's totally different. Ron argued well with Guiliani, just the crowd wasn't right. Ron did badly by the majority of crowds tonight.
 
It's totally different. Ron argued well with Guiliani, just the crowd wasn't right. Ron did badly by the majority of crowds tonight.

Of course this crowd went nuts for capitol punishment, so...you know, contrarian indicators or something.
 
The problem lies with the media not with Ron. The media needs to be inflatrated or the general public needs to wake up.
 
that hemmed in fence quip was a wry joke.
i feel things will look brighter tomorrow.
things will be revving up in a good way!
 
that hemmed in fence quip was a wry joke.
i feel things will look brighter tomorrow.
things will be revving up in a good way!

Can't wait for the first post-debate poll to come out. Or maybe I can.
 
"It's like a bunch of whiny tantrums. "

Amen to that. We go through over hundreds of pages of debate threads and every time we do we whine about his suit, we whine about his looks, we whine about how he answers the questions. He's not forceful enough, he goes too fast.

We've been doing this for four f'ing years! It never fails every time there is a debate. And yet for all our complaints, we're third in the polls and positioned well in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Remember how bat crazy everyone was after the Iran answer in a previous debate?

I'm not asking for Panglossian loyalty, just a little common sense. This wasn't a good night for RP because the debate wasn't set up for it. But please get off the suicide watch will ya? Some of you are as bad as football fans after losing a game.
 
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"It's like a bunch of whiny tantrums. "

I'm not asking for Panglossian loyalty, just a little common sense. This wasn't a good night for RP because the debate wasn't set up for it.

What ? I beg to differ, Ron Paul did awesome.
 
Well, it's just my opinion you need more than three questions to make an impact in a debate. It's pathetic Huntsman got the star treatment from MSNBC/Politico, Mr. 1%

They need to end these multi-candidate forums. Whoever polls in double digits gets in the next time, not nine people on a stage.
 
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