Regarding 3rd Party

[Joe3113]

I think there are MANY good reasons why a third party run gives us a greater chance at the presidency than a brokered convention.

1. We are losing voters to registration deadlines
2. If Hillary gets the nod for the Democrats, I'm sure we can convince Obama supporters to come to us (They hate Hillary).
3. We don't have to be demoralized by working within the Republican Party corrupted system controlled by the nWo lackies (who will never allow Ron to get the nod anyway)
4. If McCain (It will be him or Romney) gets the nod then we could attract a lot of conservative Republicans who hate him with a passion but are not yet aware of Ron because they are fixated on Romney and the MSM.

Of course the bad thing is that the 2 major parties have worked together to shut out 3rd parties with outrageous rules for getting on the ballot etc...It's fucking fascism. It's CFR V CFR with the Dems and GOP, then you look elsewherre and you find nothing, because they have shut 3rd parties out. Pisses me off so much.

edit: O Yeah....and it will be FUN AS HELL and we could expand the movement MUCH FASTER (Some people are turned off simply because we identify as 'Republicans' - I call that the Keith Olbermann false-left paradigm effect)

 

[Joe3113]

Answer me damnit!

 

[Akus]

We will lose Christian republicans who would never associate with Libertarians. Whatever we gain in one group we'll lose in another. Besides, there is still a convention to decide who is running in GOP.

 

[InLoveWithRon]

The MSM will black Paul out even more.. The media doesnt have to include Paul in debates at all... There are outrageous laws in place that can marginalize a 3rd party run a great deal..

The laws were put in place so it can be a 2 party run.. CFR candidate vs CFR candidate and nothing changes no matter who wins.

 

[Joe3113]

We will lose Christian republicans

99% of which are now with Huckabee anyway.

I think most people who are with Ron now, will stay with Ron.

 

[Joe3113]

The MSM will black Paul out even more.. The media doesnt have to include Paul in debates at all... There are outrageous laws in place that can marginalize a 3rd party run a great deal..

The laws were put in place so it can be a 2 party run.. CFR candidate vs CFR candidate and nothing changes no matter who wins.

QFT. It's covert fascism.

 

[RollOn2day]

OK OK I'm in! I'm all for a third party run much to the chagrin of some on this forum.

If anyone thinks that the knuckleheads that make up the base of the Republican Party are going to back up someone that won't let them "Get some War on! they are not in touch with their own party.

Fun? You bet! I can't wait!

 

[DanK]

We will lose Christian republicans who would never associate with Libertarians. Whatever we gain in one group we'll lose in another. Besides, there is still a convention to decide who is running in GOP.

I'm a Christian republican who's pretty much converted to Libertarian because of RP. Well, actually, I'm more a Christian independent who usually liked Republicans more than Democrats, but whatever. I would probably call myself a moderate Libertarian now, though, speaking strictly ideologically, of course, since I could really care less what party someone claims to be a part of as long as they have good positions.

 

[SeanEdwards]

You just have to realize that we'd get no free media coverage. None at all.

Ralph Nader filled madison square garden with paying supporters with like one week advance notice, and the event got no media coverage at all.

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

I'm all for it if Paul fails to win the GOP nod and is willing to do it. I know there are lot of Paul supporters who couldn't change their party registration in time, and I bet there are others who refuse to register Republican or like Paul but won't vote for a Republican. A third party or independent run would only entail registering to vote, period. Also, there'd be no need to recruit delegates or learn caucusing rules and the like. It'd be a much simplified, albeit more difficult because of the bias against third parties and independents, process.

That said, we're still in this thing.

 

[wstrucke]

seriously -- shut up about this until you have exhausted all other resources.

get outside and talk to everyone you can!!!!!

 

[ronpaulyourmom]

It has to be an independent run, not a libertarian run.

www.ronpaulwhitehouse.com <-get started there.

 

[crazyfingers]

I don't have any illusions that he could win with a 3rd party run...however I think it's more about sticking it to the GOP. A RP would virtually guarantee a Democratic victory in November. Honestly, despite his answer tonight I don't think it's going to happen, mostly because he says "not gonna happen" at the end of this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6hZfxsJ4lQ

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

We will lose Christian republicans who would never associate with Libertarians. Whatever we gain in one group we'll lose in another. Besides, there is still a convention to decide who is running in GOP.

he can run Constitution party.

 

[Ninja Homer]

I think there are MANY good reasons why a third party run gives us a greater chance at the presidency than a brokered convention.

1. We are losing voters to registration deadlines
2. If Hillary gets the nod for the Democrats, I'm sure we can convince Obama supporters to come to us (They hate Hillary).
3. We don't have to be demoralized by working within the Republican Party corrupted system controlled by the nWo lackies.
4. If McCain (It will be him or Romney) gets the nod then we could attract a lot of conservative Republicans who hate him with a passion but are not yet aware of Ron because they are fixated on Romney and the MSM.

Of course the bad thing is that the 2 major parties have worked together to shut out 3rd parties with outrageous rules for getting on the ballot etc...It's fucking fascism. It's CFR V CFR with the Dems and GOP, then you look elsewherre and you find nothing, because they have shut 3rd parties out. Pisses me off so much.

edit: O Yeah....and it will be FUN AS HELL!!!

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but for now, Ron Paul is still getting some free air time because he's running GOP and gets in the debates. We need to stick with that as long as possible. In the end, it's Ron's decision.

 

[Azprint]

Man, you don't understand stupidity of American election process. I know that in Australia you have a good variety of parties with a chance to be represented in Parliament, not here.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Brokered convention = zero chance.
Independent = chance.

 

[Joe3113]

Man, you don't understand stupidity of American election process. I know that in Australia you have a good variety of parties with a chance to be represented in Parliament, not here.

And we have something that makes me very proud called Instant-runoff voting (Preference voting). With preference voting, 3rd parties have a chance because people are not scared of wasting their vote.

 

[crazyfingers]

Brokered convention = zero chance.
Independent = chance.

Very end of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6hZfxsJ4lQ

Interviewer: So if you don't get the Republican nomination you're out?
RP: That's right

Sad but it doesn't get much more definitive than that. All the more reason to keep pushing hard for the GOP nomination. If he doesn't get it I'm voting for/supporting the libertarian nominee.

 

[Joe3113]

Brokered convention = zero chance.
Independent = chance.

Exactly. The nWo can control the game through the GOP process.