Reddit Trolls Wall St. Hedge Funds, Buying Up GameStop Stock

wizardwatson said:
Question the MSM narrative on RPF is "tinfoil"?

The ghost of Christopher A. Brown is my spirit animal, bro.

If we were real activists doing real things, I would be happy to oblige notions of "staying with the group" and "putting away my tinfoil hat".
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Research has revealed that the originator of this via WSB is a low level trader at Mass Mutual, who appears to have broken some trader regulations in an attempt to hit a jackpot. Could he have been put up to it by higher powers? Possible. But no, questioning the MSM isn't tinfoil but automatically suggesting that this has been engineered to occur by people much further up the Wall St food chain is, at least to some extent. Traders do go rouge occasionally and cause problems but rarely to this level of effect. It looks to me, even outside of MSM narratives, that there's scrambling going on to contain this and then seize it to further banker agendas.

But as long as we are stuck in the Matrix, surrounded by phantoms and hallucinations exacerbated by constantly hitting our MSM feeder bars for our next dopamine pellet, you can count on wiz to pop those balloons...time permitting.
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If you're suggesting I'm a wholesale buyer of MSM narratives then I assume you don't read many of my posts. I'm probably the biggest tinfoiler on RPF lol. I just think the truth of this GME thing lies somewhere in the middle. Maybe something a kin to 9/11 where it was known about beforehand and was allowed to happen but not directly engineered to happen.

Either way, we'll see what happens. I fully expect Robinhood declares bankruptcy very soon. Taking billion dollar lines of credit, severely limiting share purchases, forced liquidation of contracts, etc, on top of alienating most of their customer base only leads to that outcome. (Btw, the fact that Robinhood only very recently abandoned its IPO plans is a clue, to me at least, that this wasn't engineered but was allowed to occur)

The question will be what happens to the GME shares they do have custody of? Will they illegally force sell everything out of all accounts so the shorts can cover (since the account holders aren't the legal owners of the GME shares) just prior to a bankruptcy filing? Or will they make it really interesting and declare bankruptcy while still in custody of the shares, thus throwing the entire system into jeopardy since the shorts have no way to cover while the shares are locked up in a bankruptcy proceeding? That is the question imo. Knowing the answer to it would allow someone to quite literally get rich overnight.
 
devil21 said:
Research has revealed that the originator of this via WSB is a low level trader at Mass Mutual, who appears to have broken some trader regulations in an attempt to hit a jackpot. Could he have been put up to it by higher powers? Possible. But no, questioning the MSM isn't tinfoil but automatically suggesting that this has been engineered to occur by people much further up the Wall St food chain is, at least to some extent. Traders do go rouge occasionally and cause problems but rarely to this level of effect. It looks to me, even outside of MSM narratives, that there's scrambling going on to contain this and then seize it to further banker agendas.



If you're suggesting I'm a wholesale buyer of MSM narratives then I assume you don't read many of my posts. I'm probably the biggest tinfoiler on RPF lol. I just think the truth of this GME thing lies somewhere in the middle. Maybe something a kin to 9/11 where it was known about beforehand and was allowed to happen but not directly engineered to happen.

Either way, we'll see what happens. I fully expect Robinhood declares bankruptcy very soon. Taking billion dollar lines of credit, severely limiting share purchases, forced liquidation of contracts, etc, on top of alienating most of their customer base only leads to that outcome. (Btw, the fact that Robinhood only very recently abandoned its IPO plans is a clue, to me at least, that this wasn't engineered but was allowed to occur)

The question will be what happens to the GME shares they do have custody of? Will they illegally force sell everything out of all accounts so the shorts can cover (since the account holders aren't the legal owners of the GME shares) just prior to a bankruptcy filing? Or will they make it really interesting and declare bankruptcy while still in custody of the shares, thus throwing the entire system into jeopardy since the shorts have no way to cover while the shares are locked up in a bankruptcy proceeding? That is the question imo. Knowing the answer to it would allow someone to quite literally get rich overnight.
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Well, I disagree.

Why do they still get the benefit of the doubt?

Why do I have to prove it's coordinated, but no one has to prove it's organic?

Oh yeah, because people say "maybe it's the Russians". That's right. Since underdog has the right enemies, must be authentic. If Hillary, some lefist senator, and Jimmy Kimmel say "maybe its the Russians" 100% it's definitely organic, because we hate these people.

There's no possiblity social engineering psyops ran by retired military intelligence are clever enough to exploit that sophisticated dynamic of the "revolution".

That's a whacked out conspiracy theory.
 
wizardwatson said:
Well, I disagree.

Why do they still get the benefit of the doubt?

Why do I have to prove it's coordinated, but no one has to prove it's organic?

Oh yeah, because people say "maybe it's the Russians". That's right. Since underdog has the right enemies, must be authentic. If Hillary, some lefist senator, and Jimmy Kimmel say "maybe its the Russians" 100% it's definitely organic, because we hate these people.

There's no possiblity social engineering psyops ran by retired military intelligence are clever enough to exploit that sophisticated dynamic of the "revolution".

That's a whacked out conspiracy theory.
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Like I said, I'm as quick as any one to call something engineered but I also rarely do it until I have some evidence, whether relevant to me or public info, to present to back it up if anyone calls me out on it. Maybe your standards are different. I just think, based on the evidence I've seen so far, that the truth lies somewhere in the middle on this one.

I think we can both agree that this could quickly get very out-of-hand (especially for folks with 401k/IRA/etc and large dollar holdings) and protecting ourselves should be top priority, instead of arguing about who did what when. Since it's being directed toward silver now (which I do think is being engineered 100% as a cover to bring metals back to their real market prices), I think it's a great idea to grab more physical PMs while they're still available at reasonable prices and reposition stock portfolios toward miners and other PM related issues like PSLV. Any time spent arguing about who, what, when is time wasted that should be applied toward strategizing how to protect oneself as the monetary hurricane we've all been expecting for years starts to come ashore. The wind is picking up and I think I felt some raindrops...
 
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devil21 said:
Like I said, I'm as quick as any one to call something engineered but I also rarely do it until I have some evidence, whether relevant to me or public info, to present to back it up if anyone calls me out on it. Maybe your standards are different. I just think, based on the evidence I've seen so far, that the truth lies somewhere in the middle on this one.

I think we can both agree that this could quickly get very out-of-hand (especially for folks with 401k/IRA/etc and large dollar holdings) and protecting ourselves should be top priority, instead of arguing about who did what when. Since it's being directed toward silver now (which I do think is being engineered 100% as a cover to bring metals back to their real market prices), I think it's a great idea to grab more physical PMs while they're still available at reasonable prices and reposition stock portfolios toward miners and other PM related issues like PSLV. Any time spent arguing about who, what, when is time wasted that should be applied toward strategizing how to protect oneself as the monetary hurricane we've all been expecting for years starts to come ashore. The wind is picking up and I think I felt some raindrops...
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Your own signature:

The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....
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How does this jive with your "I need evidence" statement?

Is it the "entire internet" except this one situation you need evidence for?
 
I think I'm hopping out of the market this week. Not retirement accts., just my investing money directly in the stock market. This stuff is crazy town and I think it's going to get ugly at some point. I'll sacrifice some potential gains and just wait until the "next" correction/bear market.
 
Since I'm not paying much attention to the world these days - what's the point, really - I came late to this story. It is GLORIOUS.

Picture the staggering stupidity required to prompt a hedge fund (Melvin) employee to publish an article advocating for the shorting of a particular stock, most especially when it is pursuant to their employer's apparent goal of making a killing through the shorting of that very security. This had to have been some punk-motherfucker millennial ignorant, all full of their masturbatory self and the itch to stroke their weak, bloated ego. The elements of spectacular FAIL of that nitwit comprise a list impressive in its proportions, even by my somewhat jaded standards.

When one considers human nature, especially in the context of current internet technologies, the level of The Stupid to which the author welded their lips, when considered, just make a thinking man's head hurt. How could such stupidity even exist?

So Melvin's plan was to short GME at $20. To watch the stock peak at about $320 left me laughing. Knowing that the funds who came to GME's rescue are also now hanging in the balance just fills me with that warm, fuzzy feeling. It's gratifying to see the riffraff were willing, ready, and able to smack the crap out of such blatantly stupid, greed-fired malice.

It will be interesting to see how GME fares in all this. They've been given an opportunity to make better.
 
wizardwatson said:
Your own signature:



How does this jive with your "I need evidence" statement?

Is it the "entire internet" except this one situation you need evidence for?
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Calm down man. My sig doesn't mean that everyone and everything is a bot. That would be paranoid schizophrenia. That's not what my sig means. Personal discernment is unique to each of us. Yours appears different than mine. That's fine, no biggie. One of my measures is that the MSM is throwing everything they have at GME to redirect to a false narrative now about how the shorts have covered, dangling shiny new things (AMC, Silver, etc), even buying sponsored ads on FB playing a CNBC fake news clip from last week about the shorts covering, Cramer telling everyone to "take your home run and sell", SNL's blatant propaganda piece on GME over the weekend, etc. For something that, to you, allegedly was completely engineered it sure looks like the MSM is scrambling to contain it on behalf of their Wall St controllers. That's a big part of my discernment, in addition to the lengths Wall St is going to. Is the media trying to guide a narrative or is the MSM trying to upend one then redirect it? Looks like upending and redirecting to me. That's a big part of my evidence, along with having been a reader of WSB way before this started and having in-depth knowledge of shill/bot operations. I'm not sure what your evidence is but I don't think you've shared any, either.

Fwiw, I probably spend way too much time daily watching markets and media and internets etc. This doesn't fit the mental model that I've developed for identifying fully engineered events. Something observed and allowed to happen, with a goal toward redirecting it, perhaps. It's not like WSB is a hidden, closed community.


Relevant:
These links very reasonably explain how Wall St really works and the outright fraud that's been ongoing for a long time, including brokers issuing stock shares that do not exist. Very worth the reading time.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/03/dtcc-banking-scam/

http://redpillreports.com/learn/who-owns-america-cede-dtcc/
 
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devil21 said:
...One of my measures is that the MSM is throwing everything they have at GME to redirect to a false narrative now about how the shorts have covered, dangling shiny new things (AMC, Silver, etc)...
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Yeah, there is going to be resistance to Reddit investors going in on silver. There is real buying going on, which may be pent up demand from silvers bugs. If it helps the hedge funds, their media partners may push the silver story, at least for a while. As long as silver is in a reasonable range, TPTB won’t panic about it.
 
devil21 said:
Relevant:
These links very reasonably explain how Wall St really works and the outright fraud that's been ongoing for a long time, including brokers issuing stock shares that do not exist. Very worth the reading time.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/03/dtcc-banking-scam/

http://redpillreports.com/learn/who-owns-america-cede-dtcc/
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Interesting about DTCC and Cede, Inc. I didn't read the whole thing, but this arrangement would mean that there will be no more paper stock certificates and bonds that get lost or destroyed. Instead of being lost, they now become the property of Cede, Inc. Very convenient for them or whoever benefits.

Also some nostaglia in there with all of the references to Y2K. :D
 
Invisible Man said:
Stupid, yes. Greed-fired, yes.

But what was malicious about it?
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That they use the artificially low interest rates being pumped out by the fed to massively leverage their trades and manipulate the markets, and have been for a long time.
 
dannno said:
That they use the artificially low interest rates being pumped out by the fed to massively leverage their trades and manipulate the markets, and have been for a long time.
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That's malice on the part of the Fed. But I don't think there's anything malicious about investors taking the reality of the consequences of what the Fed does into account in their investment decisions.
 
Invisible Man said:
That's malice on the part of the Fed. But I don't think there's anything malicious about investors taking the reality of the consequences of what the Fed does into account in their investment decisions.
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If they are proponents of the Fed, then I can't really feel bad for them.
 
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