Rebooting the constitution and starting a micronation

[Anti Federalist]

I'm not sure how you know that I'm a sincere American.

You may notice I've put my own ugly mug as my actual avatar.

SiNcErE!

 

[wizardwatson]

SiNcErE!

Woof, woof.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I'm not sure how you know that I'm a sincere American.

The statement I said I agree with is about the framers, not me.

I'll tell you the story about how I developed this Internet forum test for sincerity.

First a little history into how and why I know it is needed.

I argued 9/11 from 2003 to 2009 because I actually know exactly how the the Twins were designed and constructed. I've got a structural engineering background and I saw a disappeared 1990 video doc about the design and construction of WTC1. I understood every word of it.

I also was nearly a BATF licensed blaster. All things considered I figured out how they were brought down. A PhD in physics found my site, called me up after scrutinizing it for weeks, I answered everyone of his questions to his satisfaction and we partnered with his web radio show, "Liberty Calling", Dr. Ron Larsen.

Anyway, as I was arguing demolition, I noticed that the just about the entire opposition would end up trying to tell me the towers weren't built as Zi know they were. Well I had good, independently verified proof. So basically anyone sincere that knew a little about structural engineering would see the facts and agree. About 5% did, then left. It spooked them that there was this huge group that refused to use facts, was completely unaccountable and backed each other up.

That was my intro to cognitive infiltration.

After 2009 I realized the entire 9/11 truth movement was a fraud for the most part. Even 90% of the sincere could not believe that the movement was comprised of agents with an agenda to NEVER acknowledge to true structure.

The reason for this is that the true structure, if known, would raise so many questions that it would undo the lie. The event is possible to understand with the false structure as the only structure. I backed away from that battle and focused on some other issues. Jumping around to various forums to see what happened.

I literally found every single vital
Issue staked out with a bunch of covert agents posting like the cared, but them when action to create change was proposed, they, as a group uniformly opposed it. When I got to the issue of the constitution and defense of it, I got really pissed and serious.

I knew I could at least devise a strategy to get past the covert groups derailing any unity upon functional activism, eventually. It took quite a bit of experimentation and experience, but finally I got the hang if their strategy.

Your capacity for critical thinking will be needed here.

They do not care what we talk about as long as it will not create change. Whatever will create change they must oppose it and if it has the potential to be shared and create unity upon its use, it is VERY important to oppose. These are rules if engagement for them.

The reason I knew I could eventually get past the effect of the covert groups is because so many people actually know and have a decent understanding of the framing documents.

It was just a matter of me breaking down the philosophical essence and simplifying the prime, basic vital principles. And of course if I did that AND it happened to also be something that had a potential for unity, it would be a triple threat.

I took a of the preceding with the basis of what the framers put forth that you agreed with and began posting at the dailypaul.com testing for "sincere Americans". Covert agents came out of the wood work. I posted in the owners thread "guidelines" what I was doing. And proceeded to do it. Three members agreed and accepted it offhand just as you did. Then I was banned.

The next day I registered at two other forums to find I was automatically banned from them.

I had registered here about the same time as dailypaul, but didn't post much. You will
notice the dailypaul is gone now.

After being banned at those two forums automatically I went to the patriotaction.net forum, there was a decent amount of agreement there. About this time the PURPOSE of free speech evolved from its biological breakdown, which is that the "purpose is to assure information vital to survival is shared and understood"; to the "purpose is to enable the unity required to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights" as the legal version.

The statement says "do you agree the framers intended". I didn't say I was on their side.

Why not? I mean millions of people support that intent. Albeit, they are deceived and mislead about how to manifest that intent, but that is only a matter of making methods clear.

But you seem lonely. I'll be in your club. If you don't like this medium by the way I can communicate by video in these threads. I've been playing with that medium lately. Kind of fun. You may notice I've put my own ugly mug as my actual avatar.

Throwing down the gauntlet!

I respect all of that, and have used another medium myself recently. A podcast.

http://algoxy.com/poly/CAB-podcasts.html

And I'll match your ugly mug with mine when I get online next with my laptop where I have an avatar I can upload.

I can understand the hesitancy to side with the framers that were not able to safeguard their republic well enough to prevent to near complete hijacking of the government that has occurred. But there are reasons and those are still fairly dominant so no matter what side you take, that infiltration, covert and otherwise will be there to try and dismantle your plan.

Accordingly, Im sticking with the framers plan, but taking the bugs out of it an streamlining it. The reason? Whenever a covert agent directly opposes the framers basic intents, and I bust them on it, any sincere American reading will know something is not right. Sincere Americans have a unique sense of what is American. Accordingly, they know BS when they see it. Which doesn't mean they know what's real or right, but hey, knowing the BS is half the job.

Hey, you saw through it and answered sincerely, and so I saw it right away. Nothing in your post quoted shows otherwise. You are looking more real than any Ive seen here.

Oh look, AF is jealous.

 

[CPUd]

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh look, AF is jealous.

No, I'm fucking tired of your "one star" games with my, and other people's, perfectly good threads.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

No, I'm fucking tired of your "one star" games with my, and other people's, perfectly good threads.

But you didn't get a star, and cpud is posting spam.

What's so good about an idea that won't work? And what's wrong with creating an environment where it might be well heard and given a chance?

The Declaration of Independence, the constitution and the bill of rights at least work some of the time, isn't it good to get agreement upon what they mean?

Or are you against that?

 

[Ronin Truth]

I'm still busy booting the original one.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I'm still busy booting the original one.

Me too, but, at this stage, mostly those that refuse or fail to agree upon its prime principals.

 

[jllundqu]

I predict a lonely job.

Good luck.

lol Your rep bar looks like a penis. Just sayin

 

[Occam's Banana]

lol Your rep bar looks like a penis. Just sayin

Your rep bar looks like it's been castrated ...

 

[Ronin Truth]

Just so you know, newcomer: Ronin Truth is just being snarky and bxm is being sarcastic. Obviously "getting permission" is docile, in-the-box thinking and not something we libertarians would encourage, in general, though sometimes it may be useful.

I would recommend getting the books Starting Your Own Country and Lonely Planet's Guide to Micronations. You can also read a "book" of sorts on Seasteading at the Seateading Institute website. Buying a boat and living on it and declaring it an independent nation may be one of the most practical ways of starting a micronation, and I would suggest you look into it. On another hand, Vit is having tremendous success, almost unbelievable success, with his new nation Liberland in a small unclaimed territory along the Danube. You could try to duplicate those results by finding some other patch of land with an unclaimed, disputed, or otherwise quirky status.

There are many possibilities you could pursue and many of us are highly interested in the possibility of such projects succeeding. If you are serious, keep posting, and you may get more help than you expected.

Gee, what would we ever do without you to really explain us to and about us? Now that's snarky, and very well deserved, I might add..

 

[wizardwatson]

How about you? I know I've asked before, but its good the lurkers see your group in action.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

My agreement with Chris that began in this thread was not honored to my standards and was canceled by me under less than amicable circumstances.

 

[Spikender]

Why do you type like a broken AI based off of Thomas Jefferson, Christopher?

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

Why do you type like a broken AI based off of Thomas Jefferson, Christopher?

Hah!

One finger on an iphone about 70% of the time minimum.

I have no electricity or internet except for the phone. Occasionally I get to wifi at a coffee shop.

Then of course I've watched no TV for 17 years but do ponder natural law intensely looking for ways to awaken it in people inspiring unity. Such tends to work very well with those not burnt out with overly deep involvement in partisan politics.

Those who focus too closely upon it are drained of hope by it. I've know. since Reagan that it was a basic multi ring circus run by corrupt clowns.

That's why.

 

[Spikender]

That makes a lot of sense.

Though wouldn't it be corrupt ringmasters instead of clowns?

After all, clowns are the pawns used to distract us, not the ones in charge.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

That makes a lot of sense.

Though wouldn't it be corrupt ringmasters instead of clowns?

After all, clowns are the pawns used to distract us, not the ones in charge.

True, but there are more than one kind of clown, and clowns have gained pervasive control within our neglect to maintain the quality of our society. This is enabled by the selection of them to get promotions because too few of us are testing authority and holding them to standards acceptable for our survival and evolution. This is due to far too few of us observing or hearing the people, each other, we prefer the circus and leave the promotion and selection of leaders to clowns.

We tolerate this within our short term indulgence as it is preferred to addressing unreasoned fears collectively promoted by default in evasion by dark clown masters, as social theatre imposed on us with lethal violence for millennia.

Therefore we leave it all up to clowns rather than being "the rightful masters of the congress and the courts" by maintaining with vigilance, our simple agreements of what and how to defend our unalienable rights.

 

[wizardwatson]

That makes a lot of sense.

Though wouldn't it be corrupt ringmasters instead of clowns?

After all, clowns are the pawns used to distract us, not the ones in charge.

How would define a clown?

I would define it along these lines...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ber-bullying&p=5933110&viewfull=1#post5933110

Everyone in this topic except for me is a certified pussy bitch starstarstar.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

I have drafted a constitution

Still hoping to get an answer upon this aspect of the intent of our existing constitution and framing documents.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

 

[Ender]

Still hoping to get an answer upon this aspect of the intent of our existing constitution and framing documents.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

Do YOU agree and accept that the only real founding document is the Declaration? That the Constitution was a coup by big gov proponents?

 

[wizardwatson]

Do YOU agree and accept that the only real founding document is the Declaration? That the Constitution was a coup by big gov proponents?

We hold these truths to be self-evident.

Chris needs us to sign in blood, so he can get his world savior merit badge from Dances with Wolves.