Realistically speaking can Ron Paul still win?

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ProtossX

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Huckabee and Obama have huge overwhelming support in Iowa

It seems like paul is behind 4 different people in Iowa as a repulican so he obviously won't get the nomination

an no third party candidant has ever stood a chance against the democratic/republican nominee's

are we finally sure he can't win should he just continue to send his message and try to influence more people for change people like Obama an huckabee

maybe he should try to be a vice president and use his idea's to help america in a diff wa then president?
 
Get a little perspective newbie.

Iowa is the first state in the process. Dr. Paul ran a strong race and had a 'solid showing' according to the news media.

Stop freaking out just because you don't understand what's going on.

Huey
 
He's much less of a longshot than he was a few months ago. He'll start looking better and better, but it may always require our help.

Oh, and "Obama an huckabee" aren't change. Not even close.
 
Huckabee and Obama have huge overwhelming support in Iowa
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So what, Iowa doesn't represent America.
It seems like paul is behind 4 different people in Iowa as a repulican so he obviously won't get the nomination
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Simply wrong. If you sucked at gym in school, did people say you will fail to graduate? Silly as it sounds, IOWA IS JUST ONE STATE OUT OF 50. Huck is polling 11% in NH.
an no third party candidant has ever stood a chance against the democratic/republican nominee's
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We plan to win as a republican candidate.

are we finally sure he can't win should he just continue to send his message and try to influence more people for change people like Obama an huckabee
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Obama and Huckabee are calling for change? Do some research on these candidates. You would be crazy to support them thinking they bring change. They such liars that they raise my passion for RP even more.
maybe he should try to be a vice president and use his idea's to help america in a diff wa then president?
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"It seems like paul is behind 4 different people in Iowa as a repulican so he obviously won't get the nomination"

Doesn't mean he won't get it. Just means he's gonna have a harder fight to get there. And honestly 10% wasn't that bad. I read somewhere that like 60% of Iowans vote based on religion. Since Dr. Paul is actually running on his political stances and not his religion we couldn't have expected much better.

Onward to New Hampshire. THAT's where it's important for us to do well. That state actually represents the type of people that should be drawn to Paul's message.

I believe that only like 2 presidents have ever won their Iowa caucuses. (Might be wrong not sure) 1 being bush, and I don't know the other.
 
What is ron paul's stronghold states though?

Ron Paul said he is happy being in the middle of the pack, he needs to lead the pack and be number 1 to win the republican nominee not in the middle.

He needs to be number 1 OF all republicans and democrats to win the real president eleection

My thought is CAN HE DO all this by the real election time or will he still be in the middle behind a few people here an there all the way through and if so wht do we do theN?
 
We still have quite a ways to go man. Your basing his chances on doing well of ONE state.

He is happy being in the middle of the pack in Iowa. Read my previous post in here. He couldn't have been expected to do much better in that situation.

NH is where it's at.

He CAN do it. He just needs our support, not our complaining.
 
ProtossX said:
My thought is CAN HE DO all this by the real election time or will he still be in the middle behind a few people here an there all the way through and if so wht do we do theN?
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The thing is, they're ALL pretty close to the middle. The party is in the midst of an identity crisis - anything could happen. The other candidates all have serious challenges to maintain their momentum. Ron Paul has the money, the momentum and, most importantly, a following of voters who aren't going to be "wasting" their vote on the same old song and dance.

The candidates who buy their support from MSM have access to the largest block of non-discriminating voters, all carefully conditioned to respond to their television cue cards. But that support is as shallow as their attention spans and likely to wander.

Every brick we put in our wall is there to stay.
 
ProtossX said:
Huckabee and Obama have huge overwhelming support in Iowa

It seems like paul is behind 4 different people in Iowa as a repulican so he obviously won't get the nomination

an no third party candidant has ever stood a chance against the democratic/republican nominee's

are we finally sure he can't win should he just continue to send his message and try to influence more people for change people like Obama an huckabee

maybe he should try to be a vice president and use his idea's to help america in a diff wa then president?
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When was the last time the USA elected a President who won the Iowa caucus hummm?

If you think coming in 5th in Iowa has destroyed Ron Paul's chances to win the Presidency then by all means, please, try your best to influence Obama and Huckabee to change their political philosophy. They still won't be able to change their voting records though.

I just happen to think they are as likely to support Ron Paul's positions on limited, Constitutional government as they are to drop out of the race and support Ron Paul himself.
 
"When was the last time the USA elected a President who won the Iowa caucus hummm?"

2000. Bush won there. But again it's only happened like twice.
 
THE WINNER OF IOWA RARELY GOES ON TO WIN THE WHITE HOUSE.

Iowa means nothing. You need a majority of the 2500 something delegates to win the nomination. Iowa is only worth 40 something TOTAL. Paul has 2 of those delegates. Huckabee has 20. Guilani has 1. Guiliani isn't bailing out his he? This is because Guilani knows IOWA MEANS NOTHING.

New Hampshire is also not much either but it's the first primary instead of caucus which seems to have more weight. Also the people in NH care more about liberty and freedom then they do about the candidates religious views. Iowa is just a bunch of old people who vote for whoever their pastor tells them to.

Stop acting like it's the end of the world. Ron Paul got 10% of the vote in a state that cares far more about 3 things:

1 - The candidates religious views
2 - Farm subsidies
3 - Social Security checks keep coming

Ron Paul doesn't pander to the religious crowd. I'm a Christian. I don't care what the candidates religion is.

Ron Paul doesn't give our subsidies.

Ron Paul wants to save Social Security for the old people and let the young people get out of it. But old people go nuts the second they hear the words "Social Security" mentioned by a politician.
 
A lot of the other GOP candidates are broke!

A lot of the other GOP candidates are broke or will be shortly after New Hampshire. Dr. Paul has the advantage, it's money, thanks to all of you!.
If the campaign has been as frugal as he is up to this point, we will still be sitting with a war chest that dwarfs the others to campaign all the way through the main event on Super Tuesday. Huckabee has shot his wad, he is finished after Iowa. Thompson is broke, he had beg for money just to air 1 TV ad in Iowa.
McCain will be broke after New Hampshire. Reports are Guiliani is also broke and will not do well in the South. Romney also will not do well in the south even though he can underwrite his own campaign. This means if the campaign focuses it's message correctly, this is Ron Paul's nomination to win!
 
davrobi said:
A lot of the other GOP candidates are broke or will be shortly after New Hampshire. Dr. Paul has the advantage, it's money, thanks to all of you!.
If the campaign has been as frugal as he is up to this point, we will still be sitting with a war chest that dwarfs the others to campaign all the way through the main event on Super Tuesday. Huckabee has shot his wad, he is finished after Iowa. Thompson is broke, he had beg for money just to air 1 TV ad in Iowa.
McCain will be broke after New Hampshire. Reports are Guiliani is also broke and will not do well in the South. Romney also will not do well in the south even though he can underwrite his own campaign. This means if the campaign focuses it's message correctly, this is Ron Paul's nomination to win!
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Has anyone checked out the 3 day donation graph today? It's been high all day.
 
Mathmatically he can still win obviously. Realistically though, it's pretty much over unless something miraculous occurs. Paul, the campaign and the grassroots have burned too many bridges and pissed off too many traditional GOP voters. I can't think of a scenario where Paul would suddenly win the support of an additional 40% or so of GOP voters.
 
Nate SY said:
"When was the last time the USA elected a President who won the Iowa caucus hummm?"

2000. Bush won there. But again it's only happened like twice.
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oops. I thought it was Gerald Ford in 1976.

But still, when was the last time the USA elected a good President who won the Iowa caucus hummmm?
 
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