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Re-cutting "FOR LIBERTY" to be used as a RP/R3V 2012 campaign tool - View within
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59:09 (59:04-05 on the in-video timer) has a pretty severe audio edit... almost like it wasn't actually a sentence originally spoken. That's the only thing I noticed though.
Nice work.
Nice work.
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Adam, I think you should substitute the video in the first post of this thread with the new updated version. Some people may be watching the outdated version here for the first time instead of the new one.
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Done, good suggestion.
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Whatever you need let me know.
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Thank you Chris.
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Hey, this was great. I just watched the full 2 hour 2008-campaign version a week or so ago with a friend who already seemed to like what little he knew of Ron Paul, but I think this convinced him, and was a good way to learn more.
I watched the re-cut soon after that, and I thought you guys did a great job on that. I may be commenting on a previous version... I'm about to watch the latest, so I apologize if my comments don't reflect the latest version. I have only a few.
1.) I wasn't big on was the kid that was like "spread the message!" because when I see kids say suff like that I feel it's not very genuine as kids just go along with whatever. I mean it's cool to teach kids and to see them interested, but to have them as advocates to me seems like they're being taken advantage of. It's easy for people to discount a message when they see something like that.
2.) I wish the ending would've transitioned to the current campaign. It's not easy to recognize at the end that he is running again this time. So while I like that it ends with the message that the idea and the revolution live on, and it is optimistic, it didn't leave people with a way to get involved or continue the revolution through the current campaign. It might've been nice to see his 2012 announcement, and maybe part of the straw poll speech where he talks about striving for virtue, and that the brushfires are spreading or whatever.
3.) I really liked the old intro of them handing out the constitutions at the Packers game. It was a nice way to bring people in without getting too political right off the bat. The new intro might be seen a little more as a slam against everyone else right off the bat. No big deal though.
3a.) Minor... but in the 'television' intro, I don't really care for Gravel and Kucinich being in there. Neither were part of the same rhetoric last time, and Kucinich and Paul work together quite a bit for the Constitution.
Anyway, I really like the recut. It took a lot of the 'nerdy' parts out, stayed just as (or more) interesting as the long version, and conveyed the same message. I like all of the new footage as well.
It would be cool if the HD version was included as a PC-only mp4 on the disc, although that might take too much space. Maybe provided via bittorrent, donations, or for purchase on the site. I watched the HD Youtube version (THANK YOU for putting that up on Youtube!), and it looked great!
HAHA. No way! Me and my friend laughed a lot at that. I loved it! Please don't take offense with that, by the way. I thought it was a great moment because I think it conveyed the overall feeling of most people involved at that point, and I thought it helped connect people who weren't involved last time to that feeling. Everyone feels like that sometime, so I think it was something everyone could relate to.
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I watched the re-cut soon after that, and I thought you guys did a great job on that. I may be commenting on a previous version... I'm about to watch the latest, so I apologize if my comments don't reflect the latest version. I have only a few.
1.) I wasn't big on was the kid that was like "spread the message!" because when I see kids say suff like that I feel it's not very genuine as kids just go along with whatever. I mean it's cool to teach kids and to see them interested, but to have them as advocates to me seems like they're being taken advantage of. It's easy for people to discount a message when they see something like that.
2.) I wish the ending would've transitioned to the current campaign. It's not easy to recognize at the end that he is running again this time. So while I like that it ends with the message that the idea and the revolution live on, and it is optimistic, it didn't leave people with a way to get involved or continue the revolution through the current campaign. It might've been nice to see his 2012 announcement, and maybe part of the straw poll speech where he talks about striving for virtue, and that the brushfires are spreading or whatever.
3.) I really liked the old intro of them handing out the constitutions at the Packers game. It was a nice way to bring people in without getting too political right off the bat. The new intro might be seen a little more as a slam against everyone else right off the bat. No big deal though.
3a.) Minor... but in the 'television' intro, I don't really care for Gravel and Kucinich being in there. Neither were part of the same rhetoric last time, and Kucinich and Paul work together quite a bit for the Constitution.
Anyway, I really like the recut. It took a lot of the 'nerdy' parts out, stayed just as (or more) interesting as the long version, and conveyed the same message. I like all of the new footage as well.
It would be cool if the HD version was included as a PC-only mp4 on the disc, although that might take too much space. Maybe provided via bittorrent, donations, or for purchase on the site. I watched the HD Youtube version (THANK YOU for putting that up on Youtube!), and it looked great!
HAHA. No way! Me and my friend laughed a lot at that. I loved it! Please don't take offense with that, by the way. I thought it was a great moment because I think it conveyed the overall feeling of most people involved at that point, and I thought it helped connect people who weren't involved last time to that feeling. Everyone feels like that sometime, so I think it was something everyone could relate to.
- Darin
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Just finished watching the new cut. If I watched it before I posted, I'd barely have anything to comment on!
I don't know if you guys are done editing this, but I saw this clip the other day where Judge Napolitano and Juan Williams talk about the changes that have taken place since the last campaign because of Ron Paul. It's a perfect summation.
Youtube - Judge Napolitano and Juan Williams on The Age of Ron Paul (about 20 seconds in)
Anyway, hope I'm not overstepping my bounds with comments and suggestions. Thanks again for the film, and I really enjoyed it!
- Darin
I don't know if you guys are done editing this, but I saw this clip the other day where Judge Napolitano and Juan Williams talk about the changes that have taken place since the last campaign because of Ron Paul. It's a perfect summation.
Youtube - Judge Napolitano and Juan Williams on The Age of Ron Paul (about 20 seconds in)
Anyway, hope I'm not overstepping my bounds with comments and suggestions. Thanks again for the film, and I really enjoyed it!
- Darin
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hehe, yeah I've heard that before, but don't you think, for campaign purposes it was best to remove it for this cut? I most certainly do! Glad you liked it though.
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Sounds like we addressed most all your concerns with the updated version then?
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As with every story, advertisement or movie production, a very important question is..."who is the intended audience?"
A video with so much material (especially right at the beginning) about ending the wars (because the main topic of the last presidential election turned out to be foreign policy, so the early clips of 2008 are about ending the wars) would mean that the most likely audience for this video is those most likely to accept the anti-war position, especially those who consider that to be the most important thing. Most of them voted for Obama in 2008, and tend to be of the younger generation.
So, with that in mind, I would tailor the music, graphics, and any other variable that can be changed, to the younger audience, and especially Obama voters, and think of how to show that Dr Paul was who they really wanted to support, but they just didn't hear about him until it was too late.
I met a lot of people like that over the past 3 years who registered Democrat to vote in the 2008 primaries because they believed the lie that "all the Republicans are for the war in Iraq" and, simply reacting to the partisan tactic, ended up supporting Obama in the primaries and certainly the general election 2008.
Whether there is enough people like that in Iowa, NH, South Carolina and Nevada is another thing, however, so I think there needs to be a second strategy running parallel to that: an economic and monetary policy message geared toward people opposed to the bailouts and Federal Reserve.
There is a great need to get an economic based message out, targeting fiscal conservatives and people who tend to be older and also more likely to vote in the Republican primaries in these states, but aren't totally committed to military interventionism or non-interventionism. That is a different audience than the most likely "For Liberty" audience, so a completely different project would be needed to reach those voters.
Most of the videos and projects we see on RP websites are made by younger people and tend to be fit for younger audiences, though this is unintentional and not a bad thing. But it may take some intentional audience-based targeting to make videos, flyers, and other ads that would appeal to older and/or economically concerned Republican voters.
I am a mapping person, not a video maker or marketer, and I am focusing on what I do best, geographically mapping likely voters for door-to-door canvassing purposes. I can't make videos anyone would find worth watching, nor do I have the software or hardware to do that, so I am hoping that people with video and marketing skills can take up the task.
Please, we really need some videos that highlight Dr Paul's economic and monetary policies that are made with the audience of fiscal conservatives in mind.
Thank you.
A video with so much material (especially right at the beginning) about ending the wars (because the main topic of the last presidential election turned out to be foreign policy, so the early clips of 2008 are about ending the wars) would mean that the most likely audience for this video is those most likely to accept the anti-war position, especially those who consider that to be the most important thing. Most of them voted for Obama in 2008, and tend to be of the younger generation.
So, with that in mind, I would tailor the music, graphics, and any other variable that can be changed, to the younger audience, and especially Obama voters, and think of how to show that Dr Paul was who they really wanted to support, but they just didn't hear about him until it was too late.
I met a lot of people like that over the past 3 years who registered Democrat to vote in the 2008 primaries because they believed the lie that "all the Republicans are for the war in Iraq" and, simply reacting to the partisan tactic, ended up supporting Obama in the primaries and certainly the general election 2008.
Whether there is enough people like that in Iowa, NH, South Carolina and Nevada is another thing, however, so I think there needs to be a second strategy running parallel to that: an economic and monetary policy message geared toward people opposed to the bailouts and Federal Reserve.
There is a great need to get an economic based message out, targeting fiscal conservatives and people who tend to be older and also more likely to vote in the Republican primaries in these states, but aren't totally committed to military interventionism or non-interventionism. That is a different audience than the most likely "For Liberty" audience, so a completely different project would be needed to reach those voters.
Most of the videos and projects we see on RP websites are made by younger people and tend to be fit for younger audiences, though this is unintentional and not a bad thing. But it may take some intentional audience-based targeting to make videos, flyers, and other ads that would appeal to older and/or economically concerned Republican voters.
I am a mapping person, not a video maker or marketer, and I am focusing on what I do best, geographically mapping likely voters for door-to-door canvassing purposes. I can't make videos anyone would find worth watching, nor do I have the software or hardware to do that, so I am hoping that people with video and marketing skills can take up the task.
Please, we really need some videos that highlight Dr Paul's economic and monetary policies that are made with the audience of fiscal conservatives in mind.
Thank you.
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New store is up. We are now accepting pre-orders. Should start shipping on or around July 15th.
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