Rasmussen - Killer Jab? 24% Say Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccine

[Anti Federalist]

I know this should be posted in the COVID forum, but I find it significant enough to merit some higher traffic attention here, at least for a couple of days.



Killer Jab? 24% Say Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccine

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu..._someone_they_know_died_from_covid_19_vaccine

Thursday, November 02, 2023

Nearly a quarter of Americans believe someone they know died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects, and even more say they might be willing to become plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 24% of American Adults say they know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Sixty-nine percent (69%) don’t know anyone who died from being vaccinated against the virus. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Forty-two percent (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit, including 24% who say it’s Very Likely they’d join such a lawsuit. Forty-seven percent (47%) aren’t likely to join a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers, including 25% who say it’s Not At All Likely. Another 11% are not sure.

The survey of 1,110 American Adults was conducted on October 26 and 29-30, 2023 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Nearly half (47%) say they know someone personally who died from the COVID-19 virus, while 49% don’t know anyone who died from the virus, which became a pandemic in the United States in 2020.

Among those who say someone they know died from the COVID-19 virus, 41% also say they know someone who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. By contrast, among those who say they don’t know anyone who died from the virus, only nine percent (9%) say they know someone who died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects.

Among those who say someone they know personally died from side effects of the vaccine, 69% would be likely to join a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies, including 44% who say it’s Very Likely they’d join such a lawsuit against vaccine makers.

More men (51%) than women (44%) say someone they know personally died from side effects of the vaccine.

Adults under 40 are less likely to say they know someone who died from the COVID-19 virus, but more likely to say they would join a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects. Men under 40 are particularly likely to say they’d join a class-action lawsuit.

Forty-three percent (43%) of whites, 52% of blacks and 57% of other minorities say someone they know personally died from the COVID-19 virus. Fewer whites (20%) than blacks (28%) or other minorities (32%) say they know someone personally who died from vaccine side effects. Blacks are more likely to be willing to join a class-action lawsuit for vaccine side effects.

There are almost no political differences on these questions. For example, 25% of Republicans say they know someone personally who died from side effects of COVID-19 vaccine, as do 24% of Democrats and those not affiliated with either major party.

Married adults are more likely than their unmarried peers to say they know someone who died either from the COVID-19 virus or from vaccine side effects, and are also more likely to say they’d join a lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies.

Government employees (40%) are more than twice as likely as private sector workers (18%) to say someone they know personally died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I know this should be posted in the COVID forum, but I find it significant enough to merit some higher traffic attention here, at least for a couple of days.

Putting a thread in the U.S. Political News forum doesn't give the thread significantly more traffic or attention. If anything, it's the other way around. The U.S. Political News forum gets more traffic & attention because (1) that's where most threads appropriately go, and (2) those are the threads that attract the most attention. IOW: Threads don't tend to be more trafficked because they happen to be in USPN - rather, USPN tends to be more trafficked because the threads that happen to be there are.

Lists for New Posts and Subscribed Threads are the primary thread-browsing interfaces, and they are forum insensitive. The only threads at RPFs that are less visible than others are the ones in Hot Topics and The Vent (and that only applies with respect to non-member visitors and members who are not logged in).

 

[Anti Federalist]

Putting a thread in the U.S. Political News forum doesn't give the thread significantly more traffic or attention. If anything, it's the other way around. The U.S. Political News forum gets more traffic & attention because (1) that's where most threads appropriately go, and (2) those are the threads that attract the most attention. IOW: Threads don't tend to be more trafficked because they happen to be in USPN - rather, USPN tends to be more trafficked because the threads that happen to be there are.

Lists for New Posts and Subscribed Threads are the primary thread-browsing interfaces, and they are forum insensitive. The only threads at RPFs that are less visible than others are the ones in Hot Topics and The Vent (and that only applies with respect to non-member visitors and members who are not logged in).

Learn something new every day.

That said...how accurate are the "views" total for a particular thread?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Learn something new every day.

That said...how accurate are the "views" total for a particular thread?

I guess it depends on what you mean by "accurate". Technically, they're quite accurate, in the sense that each request for the loading of a thread page is dutifully and automatically tallied and reported by the server - but how closely that corresponds to the number of actual "views" by actual human eyeballs is another matter.

Note that if you open a thread from the New Posts list (or the Subscribed Threads list on your user control panel), that counts as a "view" just as much as it would if you went to the thread list for the relevant forum and opened the thread from there.

Also note that some number of "views" may be due to various 'bots (both legitimate ones, such as search engine spiders, and illegitimate ones, such as spambots). If you look at the "active users" data at the bottom of the Forums list page, you'll typically see that hundreds of users are reported as being "currently active" and thousands as being "active in the past 24 hours". Safe to say, most of those are not human - but if they load a page, that is counted as a "view". The same consideration applies to the "viewing" numbers reported in parentheses after forum names on the Forums list page. For example, the Grassroots Central and U.S. Political News forums almost always report the highest "viewing" counts compared to other forums, because those forums have by far the most threads/posts (well over a million posts in each). And that, in turn, attracts the most 'bots (legitimate or illegitimate) ...

 

[Anti Globalist]

I've yet to know anybody that has died from the COVID vaccine but I do know people that keep getting sick from the boosters.

 

[cjm]

I've yet to know anybody that has died from the COVID vaccine but I do know people that keep getting sick from the boosters.

I know of one guy that I think died from the jab. He was a FedGov employee, roughly 45yo, and died of a heart attack shortly (a month or three?) after the federal employee jab mandate was announced. I don't know for sure that he was jabbed, but he fits the profile in my opinion. He wasn't a desk jockey, he was a field DHS guy and pretty fit. Our paths didn't cross much for the obvious reasons (If not clear, I'm an ancap and pretty much avoid the armed FedGov types). If/when we crossed paths, it was because we had kids the same age and they ended up at the same functions occasionally.

I know of several others that I think the jab finished off, but can't say for sure because of comorbidities (age, obesity, general effed up health).

 

[Matt4Liberty]

4 people under 45 that I have met died between 2021-2022 under mysterious circumstances. Hard to know for absolute sure, but that's never happened to me before.

 

[acptulsa]

At least three dead, at least one with immune deficiency.

Never in all my six decades.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

That is almost 1/4 of the people. Either the deceased were very famous/popular and known by many of those in the survey or 1 in four people died in the last couple years. Or the poll means nothing or something in between.

 

[dannno]

That is almost 1/4 of the people. Either the deceased were very famous/popular and known by many of those in the survey or 1 in four people died in the last couple years. Or the poll means nothing or something in between.

If everybody knows and keeps up with 40 people on average, enough that they would know if they died and under what circumstances, then 1 in 4 would mean closer to 1 in 160 died from the jab, not 1 in 4.. but I'm not sure what that number is, there's always the "my neighbor's cousin died" which puts in degrees of separation, so it may be higher than that.. but conversely some people know multiple people who died and other people know somebody who died after taking the shot but didn't attribute it to the jab because the news told them it is ok and answered "No". These people would likely never attribute a death to the vaccine, no matter what.. Then there is the fact that about 20% of the population never took the jab.

So it's just a rough estimate, but that is still a decent amount of people.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

If everybody knows and keeps up with 40 people on average, enough that they would know if they died and under what circumstances, then 1 in 4 would mean closer to 1 in 160 died from the jab, not 1 in 4.. but I'm not sure what that number is, there's always the "my neighbor's cousin died" which puts in degrees of separation, so it may be higher than that.. but conversely some people know multiple people who died and other people know somebody who died after taking the shot but didn't attribute it to the jab because the news told them it is ok and answered "No". These people would likely never attribute a death to the vaccine, no matter what.. Then there is the fact that about 20% of the population never took the jab.

So it's just a rough estimate, but that is still a decent amount of people.

So you would say Americans know about 2 million Americans that have died from COVID shot. 330,000,000/160??

 

[dannno]

So you would say Americans know about 2 million Americans that have died from COVID shot. 330,000,000/160??

Slight variations can really throw it off, plus you have the "my neighbor's cousin's wife" degrees of separation. And you would be looking at 80% of that since only 80% got the jab.

Over a span of 2 years, that would be about 800k annually. Sounds fairly reasonable. Some of those could be "died with the vaccine", what percentage, who knows..

Some of those pro-lifers could be counting miscarriages as well.

This is overall a really bad way to try and determine the number of vaccine deaths, it just gives you a rough estimate of what's happening - which is that, something is happening.

 

[acptulsa]

Slight variations can really throw it off...

... like pulling "40 people in each circle" out of thin air, or failing to even attempt to account for the fact that these circles overlap...

Stop acting like this is going to bring you to any kind of an accurate number, except by sheer luck. Thomas wouldn't approve.

 

[dannno]

... like pulling "40 people in each circle" out of thin air, or failing to even attempt to account for the fact that these circles overlap...

It doesn't matter if the circles overlap, because you divide by that number.

For example, if there was only one vaccine death in the entire country of 1,000 people, and 40 people knew them and answered the survey, you would say 40 people out of 1,000 (4%) knew somebody who died of the vaccine. 4% didn't die, you divide by 40 - so you take 4% of 1,000 (40) and divide by 40. 40/40 = 1 vaccine death.

 

[dannno]

This is overall a really bad way to try and determine the number of vaccine deaths, it just gives you a rough estimate of what's happening - which is that, something is happening.

... like pulling "40 people in each circle" out of thin air, or failing to even attempt to account for the fact that these circles overlap...

Stop acting like this is going to bring you to any kind of an accurate number, except by sheer luck. Thomas wouldn't approve.

This is what happens when you have people on the forum you read the first sentence of a post a then criticize you for it.

 

[acptulsa]

Okay. Don't, then.