Rand's speech was Mischievous and BRILLIANT!

[Brent Pierce]

I just watched Rand Paul's first speech on the Senate floor. It was delivered well and with a great message. (Compromise is not necessarily a virtue) However, an educated southern man like Rand knows full well that Cassius Clay is not a character in history to be celebrated.

We should forgive the reference because of its strategic brilliance. Namely that by using Cassius Clay as an example he provided a character that both parties are obligated to worship and therefore cannot disagree with Paul's point. (Dems have to worship Clay because he was a extreme leftist; Republicans because he was a founding member of the party who 100% represents the ideals of the GOP)

In effect he used the establishment GOP and Democrats own twisted ideology against them. Mischievous and BRILLIANT!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo146.html

 

[Sola_Fide]

+:collins:

 

[sirgonzo420]

+:collins:

Oh my God.... RonPaulForums has jumped the shark.


lol

 

[driege]

Cassius Clay?

 

[sailingaway]

Cassius Clay?

 

[BuddyRey]

Whatchyootalkinbout, Brent? Muhammad Ali was and is an American hero, both for his inimitable boxing style and his outspoken activism against military conscription. That's a dude who didn't just preach against the draft, but actively defied it, putting his own butt on the line.

 

[sailingaway]

Whatchyootalkinbout, Brent? Muhammad Ali was and is an American hero, both for his inimitable boxing style and his outspoken activism against military conscription. That's a dude who didn't just preach against the draft, but actively defied it, putting his own butt on the line.

Um, this is the guy Muhammad Ali was named after.

 

[dannno]

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[Brent Pierce]

Whatchyootalkinbout, Brent? Muhammad Ali was and is an American hero, both for his inimitable boxing style and his outspoken activism against military conscription. That's a dude who didn't just preach against the draft, but actively defied it, putting his own butt on the line.

lol. Muhammad Ali would have wooped this guy....unless Clay had his knife handy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Marcellus_Clay_(politician)

 

[BuddyRey]

Um, this is the guy Muhammad Ali was named after.

Oooohhh...I see.

I must admit to never having heard of this *other* Cassius Clay before. I'll have to peruse that Wikipedia article.

 

[speciallyblend]

Oooohhh...I see.

I must admit to never having heard of this *other* Cassius Clay before. I'll have to peruse that Wikipedia article.

did you photo shop your avatar? or is it on his head? if on his head how in the hell did you manage to keep it there and a pose??

 

[BuddyRey]

did you photo shop your avatar? or is it on his head? if on his head how in the hell did you manage to keep it there and a pose??

LOL! I didn't think up that avatar (though I sure wish I had!). It's an Internet meme which arises from the recent trend of "dog wigs", presumably an actual photo from one of these companies' catalogs. If you do a search for "dog wig" or "chihuahua wig" on the web, you'll see it everywhere.

 

[driege]

Rand Paul didn't talk about Cassius Clay in his speech. He talked about Henry Clay. Hence the monster confusion in this thread.

 

[Brent Pierce]

Rand Paul didn't talk about Cassius Clay in his speech. He talked about Henry Clay. Hence the monster confusion in this thread.

He did speak about Henry Clay. He went on to contrast him with his cousin Cassius Clay.

"Cassius Clay was an unapologetic abolitionist. He made people mad; particularly, slave owners and slave traders. One night in Foxtown, he was ambushed by Squire Turner and his boys; they were slave traders." ~From Rand's speech today.

 

[torchbearer]

Rand Paul didn't talk about Cassius Clay in his speech. He talked about Henry Clay. Hence the monster confusion in this thread.

He did spend a great deal of time talking about Henry's cousin Cassius.

 

[t0rnado]

Rand Paul didn't talk about Cassius Clay in his speech. He talked about Henry Clay. Hence the monster confusion in this thread.

You obviously didn't watch or read Rand's speech.

 

[S.Shorland]

He was asserting that Cassius rather than Henry was 'the hero'.The speech was about why.I didn't agree with the statement that there are no modern moral imperatives on a par with slavery,however.Undeclared wars seem as great to me.

 

[MichelleHeart]

He was asserting that Cassius rather than Henry was 'the hero'.The speech was about why.I didn't agree with the statement that there are no modern moral imperatives on a par with slavery,however.Undeclared wars seem as great to me.

Don't forget abortion, de facto military conscription (through Selective Service), and the executive assassination program targeting American citizens. But yeah, that was one hell of a speech.

 

[Brent Pierce]

Rand is demonstrating brilliance on several levels. Long ago the totalitarian/marxist elements in our society succeeded in forcing slavery, the south, Civil War and most other events in world history through the filter of political correctness. They have effectively reduced discussions of history to one acceptable question. "Who was being repressed and who was doing the repressing?" (We all remember what happened when Paul suggested that perhaps not everything in the 1964 Civil Rights Act was divinely inspired) Paul navigated this tragic reality and actually used the "official" story against the establishment in this speech. The republican leadership has to be more than a little scared of him tonight. He is not handicapped by his intellectual honesty. He parried the latest lie from Washington perfectly. "We need to be more civil and come together." No! Compromising with tyranny is no virtue.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~Cicero via Barry Goldwater

 

[Matt Collins]

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~Cicero via Barry Goldwater

I didn't realize that came from Cicero ha ha ha. One of the books in Rand's medical office on the shelf behind is desk is entitled "Cicero".