Rand's first blow to Trump lands hard

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I remember everyone upset about Rand's opening statement....who was the one who called Trump out on it? My boy!
 
georgiaboy said:
Rand is now the alpha, Donald wears the cone of shame.
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Yes, but it's more than that. I believe the original motivation to stick Trump out there was so he could run a 'sore loser' independent campaign in the event Rand won, thus splitting the GOP vote and handing the race to the Democrat.

Thanks to Rand's intervention and our stubborn refusal to let the issue die, that gambit is now off the table! Good job Rand Paul and good job us!
 
acptulsa said:
Yes, but it's more than that. I believe the original motivation to stick Trump out there was so he could run a 'sore loser' independent campaign in the event Rand won, thus splitting the GOP vote and handing the race to the Democrat.

Thanks to Rand's intervention and our stubborn refusal to let the issue die, that gambit is now off the table! Good job Rand Paul and good job us!
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Well, a piece of paper really isn't that much of a deterrent if Trump wants to be [more of] an ass.
 
only because he thinks he is going to win, the pledge means shit if he decides to run independent.
 
carlton said:
Well, a piece of paper really isn't that much of a deterrent if Trump wants to be [more of] an ass.
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No. But that video in the OP can sure dissuade a lot of people from voting for his independent candidacy in the general election.

People have a harder time voting for liars when the liars insult their intelligence and rub their noses in those lies.
 
acptulsa said:
No. But that video in the OP can sure dissuade a lot of people from voting for his independent candidacy in the general election.

People have a harder time voting for liars when the liars insult their intelligence and rub their noses in those lies.
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this.

its one thing to be fooled once...but not twice.
 
acptulsa said:
No. But that video in the OP can sure dissuade a lot of people from voting for his independent candidacy in the general election.

People have a harder time voting for liars when the liars insult their intelligence and rub their noses in those lies.
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After all you have seen with Trump voters you believe THAT?
 
klamath said:
After all you have seen with Trump voters you believe THAT?
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Yes, I do.

I'm old enough to remember when Nixon resigned. The cognitive dissonance was strong with that one, too. Very strong. Some stuck by him to the bitter end. Some of those were the ones who hated him the most, and hated him the longest. Nixon thought about trying to mount some kind of political comeback years later. He found out that his former diehard fans were by then some of the people who were most opposed to him doing anything more.

Trample a stubborn man's cognitive dissonance hard enough, and he will hate you for life. And no one can trample the stuff harder than the very guy who benefits from it.
 
Not to take away from this post but do you guys realize that South Carolina, Virginia, and one or two other state Republican Parties were saying they wouldn't let a candidate on that wasn't loyal to the eventual winner (Trump). So Trump probably wouldn't do this and now he can't be saying this to threaten and get leverage from his supporters to convince us we had to support him.
 
Okaloosa said:
Not to take away from this post but do you guys realize that South Carolina, Virginia, and one or two other state Republican Parties were saying they wouldn't let a candidate on that wasn't loyal to the eventual winner (Trump). So Trump probably wouldn't do this and now he can't be saying this to threaten and get leverage from his supporters to convince us we had to support him.
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This, too, probably wouldn't have happened if Rand hadn't pushed the issue.
 
acptulsa said:
This, too, probably wouldn't have happened if Rand hadn't pushed the issue.
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While I think Bret Baer can share some credit for making this happen by instigating this at the debate with the opening question, the fact that Rand was the one that stood up and pushed the issue further at the debate probably helped ram the point home, and definitely makes him look a lot more manly than Cruz who has been kissing Trump's ass the whole time, or the other people attacking Trump who have basically been whining.

I'm actually hoping that Trump self-destructs soon and goes down in a blaze of glory, and maybe does irreparable damage to Bush or somebody else other than Rand in the process. As long as Rand can manage to creep up in the polls to 8th place or a bit higher in the next few polls, we're still in this thing and don't have to worry about a complete blackout, though the long-knives will probably be out until the bitter end insofar as the MSM is concerned.
 
acptulsa said:
People have a harder time voting for liars when the liars insult their intelligence and rub their noses in those lies.
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This is true only if you assume that Trump voters would take this as a sincere proclamation by Trump in the first place. If they just see this as something Trump has to do right now to deal with the dishonest, blackmailing weasels in the RNC; it's not at all an insult to their intelligence if Trump at some later date tells the RNC to fuck off.

If anything, it's Priebus and the RNC who are insulting peoples' intelligence by pretending they are impartial in this nominating process.
 
hells_unicorn said:
I'm actually hoping that Trump self-destructs soon
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He won't self-destruct. But now that they have him on this pledge, the RNC will get a lot bolder about attacking him. Expect anti-Trump PACs (not-so) covertly backed by the RNC & its donors to open fire on Trump in a big way soon. That may drive his numbers down some.
 
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