Rand suspends campaign

[idiom]

I think Rand would make an excellent VP for Trump. Trump needs a lot of guidance but has the bluster to execute.

Other than that, don't look to 2020. If Rand does want to be President one day he should go via the Governors office of Kentucky.

The rest of us should be focused on low level local races. The hope of getting one person into government who will magically change everything is delusional.

The FSP project is about to tick over which will mean a lot of energy there.

If anything we should be focused on the NH state assemblies and governorships. Prove that libertarian values work and provide secure platforms for future national candidates.

 

[angelatc]

I keep seeing all over the web that he has not dropped out, but only suspended (like McCain did in 08'). Is there any validity to this or do you guys just think it's semantics?

It's a legal thing. Once you end the campaign, you only have x number of days to pay the bills, file the reports, and turn out the lights. Suspending it gives them more time to finish wrapping up the minutiae.

 

[ds21089]

I think Rand would make an excellent VP for Trump. Trump needs a lot of guidance but has the bluster to execute.

Other than that, don't look to 2020. If Rand does want to be President one day he should go via the Governors office of Kentucky.

The rest of us should be focused on low level local races. The hope of getting one person into government who will magically change everything is delusional.

The FSP project is about to tick over which will mean a lot of energy there.

If anything we should be focused on the NH state assemblies and governorships. Prove that libertarian values work and provide secure platforms for future national candidates.

They would never allow a good candidate to be VP. Imagine if the corrupt president had some health issue and passed away. They would shit their pants.. For this reason they would never have it happen.

 

[parocks]

Guess I will vote for the Libertarian party or Constitution party.

Fuck voting

 

[Chieppa1]

I think Rand would make an excellent VP for Trump. Trump needs a lot of guidance but has the bluster to execute.

Other than that, don't look to 2020. If Rand does want to be President one day he should go via the Governors office of Kentucky.

The rest of us should be focused on low level local races. The hope of getting one person into government who will magically change everything is delusional.

The FSP project is about to tick over which will mean a lot of energy there.

If anything we should be focused on the NH state assemblies and governorships. Prove that libertarian values work and provide secure platforms for future national candidates.

My joke ticket is Trump/Paul. With Paul making sure he is a very hands on VP. I wish Rand stayed in long enough for the GOP to be in full "destroy Trump mode" so Trump and Rand would start to notice they both were getting the short end.

My vision for success:

"Trump loses in New Hampshire. FOX News takes the opportunity to announce his campaign "dead in the water".
In a childish fit of rage, Trump drops out and endorses Rand Paul. Angering FOX and confusing it's viewers.
Rand Paul shows up at the South Carolina debate in a t-shirt and a Bud in his hand. He delivers a Stone Cold Stunner to both Cruz & Rubio.
Wins South Carolina. History is made.
Fuck It 2016."

 

[parocks]

I am not going to delude myself into thinking this isn't the end of his campaign. However, I found it odd, too. It could be for reasons totally unrelated to politics. His sister Lori is very sick, or maybe other personal reasons. I would have liked to have seen him stay at least until Super Tuesday. I was not expecting this so early in the season.

I didn't expect this at all.

 

[parocks]

I think the day of the statesman is gone. The day of the fighter is here. Next time less statesmanship may just win. I don't think a Thomas Jefferson would have been chosen this time either. You have to bring your A game. In your face attack dog MMA style and that was not the MO of this campaign

The suckoligopoly in charge didn't want Rand. The next president will be the worse president yet, and the president after that will be even worse. Everyone in charge of everything really sucks and should either get their heads chopped off or be swinging from a lamppost. Nothing like that is going to happen, things will just get worse.

 

[simon1911]

remember when we said the same thing in 08 and 12? lol.

I really think things will unravel with the economy. When interest rate finally creeps up, the deficit will explode. They may be able to kick the cans off the road but once inflation picks up, the fed will have no choice but to raise the interest rate. After that, look out.

 

[mit26chell]

Well, Rand was the only repub I would vote for. I hate Cruz so much that I hope Trump beats him in every other state. I also hope their convention is a complete, brokered mess.

 

[CPUd]

What did Rand find out after giving his IA caucus speech once the results were in? He said in his speech, 'tonight is the beginning, we fight on . . .,' etc. What happened between that time and this morning to make him suspend the campaign? Anyone else confused by this?

They were not able to convince ABC and the RNC to let him in the next debate. Without that, he would have needed to raise in the $10M range this week to get enough exposure to be competitive in NH, and probably another $10M to make it to his first win in NV and be competitive on March 1.

 

[Antwan15]

They were not able to convince ABC and the RNC to let him in the next debate. Without that, he would have needed to raise in the $10M range this week to get enough exposure to be competitive in NH, and probably another $10M to make it to his first win in NV and be competitive on March 1.

I like you CPUd, your on the right side. But this was a COWARDLY move by Rand. I am LIVID. All the money I gave (a lot to me anyways) and he pulls out at the first sign of adversity. What about advancing the message? How about at least a Fucking speech? Oh, wow, we get a useless 2min youtube video. Makes me think all he wanted was to be president, not advance the message (which he watered down to the point of being unrecognizable even to me, and I CLOSELY FOLLOW him). What about the 50 state organization we were promised, what is he doing with MY MONEY.


This race is completely fluid and he drops. And I don't want hear anymore about he needs to defend his FUCKING Senate seat. HE IS IN KENTUCKY for fucks sake! Total coward move. I could say more, this is the first chance I have had to post since the drop. FUCK THIS SHIT. I lost all respect for him. If he's not a fighter then what the hell did he run for? Were so fucked.

 

[supermario21]

Honorable move by Rand. No point sticking around when you know you're not going to win. He's had a lot of positive press and he'll be able to continue his issue based advocacy from the Senate seat.

As for a second choice, I might be crazy but I'm giving Jeb! some serious thought. He might be the only candidate left to realize his brother was a failure. Cruz I can't trust and personally can't stand, Rubio and Christie are less conservative/more aggressive versions of W. Trump is just a blowhard. I don't know, I feel like Jeb has gotten a bit of a bad rap and sort of has been the establishment Rand Paul. At least he tries to be sober and offer some serious thoughts, even if I disagree with a lot of them.

 

[Antwan15]

Honorable move by Rand. No point sticking around when you know you're not going to win. He's had a lot of positive press and he'll be able to continue his issue based advocacy from the Senate seat.

As for a second choice, I might be crazy but I'm giving Jeb! some serious thought. He might be the only candidate left to realize his brother was a failure. Cruz I can't trust and personally can't stand, Rubio and Christie are less conservative/more aggressive versions of W. Trump is just a blowhard. I don't know, I feel like Jeb has gotten a bit of a bad rap and sort of has been the establishment Rand Paul. At least he tries to be sober and offer some serious thoughts, even if I disagree with a lot of them.

BULLSHIT. A Cowardly move by Rand. Feel good about the fake words from the media tonight, it is the last they will talk about him till he endorses one of these pieces of shit. What a pussy. You have to fight for the truth. This race was not over by any means, he just wanted to go along to get along.

 

[phill4paul]

I like you CPUd, your on the right side. But this was a COWARDLY move by Rand. I am LIVID. All the money I gave (a lot to me anyways) and he pulls out at the first sign of adversity. What about advancing the message? How about at least a Fucking speech? Oh, wow, we get a useless 2min youtube video. Makes me think all he wanted was to be president, not advance the message (which he watered down to the point of being unrecognizable even to me, and I CLOSELY FOLLOW him). What about the 50 state organization we were promised, what is he doing with MY MONEY.


This race is completely fluid and he drops. And I don't want hear anymore about he needs to defend his FUCKING Senate seat. HE IS IN KENTUCKY for fucks sake! Total coward move. I could say more, this is the first chance I have had to post since the drop. FUCK THIS SHIT. I lost all respect for him. If he's not a fighter then what the hell did he run for? Were so fucked.

 

[ds21089]

I know this is a pipe dream, but what if he resumes just before NV and people realize how much it sucked without him. Kind of like how you have a product for a limited time and when its gone you miss it then when its released again you rush to get it while you can. I know the odds of this are probably less than 1% but it'd be awesome if it works. I know he didnt suspend it for this reason (probably finances) but oh man would that be epic.. As the other candidates tear each other apart this could become more likely.

 

[CPUd]

Rand is also trending on twitter.

 

[Crashland]

I like you CPUd, your on the right side. But this was a COWARDLY move by Rand. I am LIVID. All the money I gave (a lot to me anyways) and he pulls out at the first sign of adversity. What about advancing the message? How about at least a Fucking speech? Oh, wow, we get a useless 2min youtube video. Makes me think all he wanted was to be president, not advance the message (which he watered down to the point of being unrecognizable even to me, and I CLOSELY FOLLOW him). What about the 50 state organization we were promised, what is he doing with MY MONEY.


This race is completely fluid and he drops. And I don't want hear anymore about he needs to defend his FUCKING Senate seat. HE IS IN KENTUCKY for fucks sake! Total coward move. I could say more, this is the first chance I have had to post since the drop. FUCK THIS SHIT. I lost all respect for him. If he's not a fighter then what the hell did he run for? Were so fucked.

Would you have been happier if he had stayed in long enough to collect even more of your money even when he knows there is no path to victory?
The debates were his only real chance at changing the conversation and getting his message out. Once he was out of the debates then he would get no more of a podium than Santorum or Huckabee on the campaign trail. Yes he is focusing now on his Senate seat but that isn't the reason he suspended his campaign. He suspended his campaign because there was no longer any benefit of staying in.

 

[JK/SEA]

 

[parocks]

Honorable move by Rand. No point sticking around when you know you're not going to win. He's had a lot of positive press and he'll be able to continue his issue based advocacy from the Senate seat.

As for a second choice, I might be crazy but I'm giving Jeb! some serious thought. He might be the only candidate left to realize his brother was a failure. Cruz I can't trust and personally can't stand, Rubio and Christie are less conservative/more aggressive versions of W. Trump is just a blowhard. I don't know, I feel like Jeb has gotten a bit of a bad rap and sort of has been the establishment Rand Paul. At least he tries to be sober and offer some serious thoughts, even if I disagree with a lot of them.

Jeb? You're an idiot.

 

[parocks]

Would you have been happier if he had stayed in long enough to collect even more of your money even when he knows there is no path to victory?
The debates were his only real chance at changing the conversation and getting his message out. Once he was out of the debates then he would get no more of a podium than Santorum or Huckabee on the campaign trail. Yes he is focusing now on his Senate seat but that isn't the reason he suspended his campaign. He suspended his campaign because there was no longer any benefit of staying in.

He should've stayed in longer. But he was looking at less than a 10% chance of winning and I guess he didn't want to go through the motions waiting for multiple collapses from multiple candidates when those collapses aren't all that common.

And I can get right back on the "you're stupid for thinking your candidate doesn't suck" message.