Rand suspends campaign

[CPUd]

All of Rand's actions suggested he was moving on to NH.

I saw Priebus on CNN yesterday suggesting some candidates needed to go. I wonder if he basically told Paul to end it now.

Even if a losing effort, I'd have preferred to keep going.

They did push him out, but in not so many words. He could have made it at least to March with a decent showing in NH, and the campaign was fighting to get him in the debate by loosening their criteria to include the top 5 in Iowa results. Even with the debate, it would be hard for Rand to cut through the noise. Trump is going to win NH by 20+ points because the other candidates are scared to take a run at him, Jeb won't drop out to dissolve the anti-Bush voters behind Trump, so there are Bush, Kasich, Christie, Rubio all playing for 2nd, though I wouldn't be surprised to see one of them get pushed out before NH, too.

 

[ds21089]

i didnt remember this until i got a notice on facebook.. but mccain suspend his campaign in 2008 and still went onto win the nomination

The reality is we can't compare unlikely situations propped up by the media vs somebody who definitely wont be propped up by the media.

 

[CPUd]

i didnt remember this until i got a notice on facebook.. but mccain suspend his campaign in 2008 and still went onto win the nomination

He did that because he was the "presumptive nominee" with months to go, doing campaign events and getting press was actually hurting him due to overexposure, and him saying stuff like "the fundamentals of our economic policies are sound" while we were in the middle of an economic crash. Very similar to what Clinton is going through now, having Bernie in the race is helping her and the party.

 

[asurfaholic]

And just to spit in our faces after 1 caucus. I was looking forward to New Hampshire. Now a lot of people are going to vote for someone other than Rand. Rand's dad also got 5th place in Iowa in 2008 I don't see what the big fucking deal about it is. He should stop being a baby and continue his presidential run.

Stop with the emotional nonsense. Rand hasn't spit in anyone's face. This was clearly the only logical path of action following a disastrous showing in Iowa. I would love a Paul presidency, but there are too many things going against him after failing to reach 5% in a state that his dad got 20+% in 4 years ago. Rand Paul- senator. I am counting my blessings and working to make sure Walter Jones gets re elected and Greg Brannon gets elected. These are the fighters who will keep carrying the torch. Rand is not the only person who is willing to fight. The trick is not fighting battles that you are sure to lose.

Keep pounding and don't let this kill you...

 

[asurfaholic]

Some religion, eh? . . .carpetbombing and making your sand glow if you don't like the cult

Bullshit. The religion has nothing to do with it. People of all religions and those who have no religion are all equally fooled by our out of control government.

Take the most liberal non religious state in the country, look at the elected leaders and their positions, and you will stop with your obvious hate and bias.

 

[JenH88]

I pray we have a country left in 2020 or 2024.

remember when we said the same thing in 08 and 12? lol.

 

[devil21]

Well that was disappointing, but at least we can dispense with the electoral sensitivities and start speaking truth.

Presidential elections are illusions. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a bankrupt corporation and the President (CEO) is selected by the Board of Directors of the corporation. "Elections" are nothing more than common stock holder's opportunities to express a preference, which is ignored by the Board if the preference isn't what the Board has decided. The 2016 President has already been selected by the Board. Rand wasn't their selection. The entire process is meant to guide the stock holders into believing that the Board's selection was, in fact, the stock holder's decision. It was not.

I'll do a much longer write-up later of how the system really works. It's nowhere near what most people think it is and that is intentional. Most everything people think about their world is a lie.

eta: Bernie is next pres.

 

[nikcers]

I uh think I got something in my eye.. sniff, is someone cutting onions? I had a bad feeling when Ron spoke, when he announced Rand I thought he said one of the next instead of the next president. I turned it off there and didn't even finish the Iowa speech.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Thank you stupid people of Iowa.
At least those religious nutcases in Iowa love their carpet bombings.

 

[Jan2017]

. . .your obvious hate and bias.

Bomb away. But you need to be around the Iowa evangelicals and listen to their sola scriptura bullshit -
they are really in the wrong country with their cult attempts to deny freedom of religion.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Bullshit. The religion has nothing to do with it. People of all religions and those who have no religion are all equally fooled by our out of control government.

Take the most liberal non religious state in the country, look at the elected leaders and their positions, and you will stop with your obvious hate and bias.

Religion has everything to do with it. And you can blame the NeoCon radio talk show hosts for everything.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Bomb away. But you need to be around the Iowa evangelicals and listen to their sola scriptura bullshit -
they are really in the wrong country with their cult attempts to deny freedom of religion.

Those same Iowa evangelicals didn't seem to mind bombing Serb Christians in Bosnia. But hey its Iowa a rich white state what you expected from a state that is brainless?

 

[65fastback2+2]

Bullshit. The religion has nothing to do with it. People of all religions and those who have no religion are all equally fooled by our out of control government.

Take the most liberal non religious state in the country, look at the elected leaders and their positions, and you will stop with your obvious hate and bias.

it has plenty to do with ted winning iowa, yes.

 

[ds21089]

Bomb away. But you need to be around the Iowa evangelicals and listen to their sola scriptura bullshit -
they are really in the wrong country with their cult attempts to deny freedom of religion.

The problem isn't religion so much as the people preaching it. I honestly believe a lot of pastors, reverends, etc are picked by government and preach specific agendas, creating hatred. Prior to my most recent few visits to new churches, I havent gone in years. Both churches had people talking about damning gays to hell and ISIS almost the entire time.. Hardly anything positive was mentioned at all. Either these "spiritual leaders" are government influenced or they get their sources of information from those who are. Regardless, religion has been hijacked in this country. I believe those who read the word on their own instead of going into churches generally have a more positive outlook and less hatred.

 

[speciallyblend]

building a rocket stove , we will have a new fossil fuel source called the gop. iowan republicans love bigger government it seems.

 

[Spikender]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the devil lives in the churches. Organized religion is a sham meant to deceive Christians and members of other faiths just like most institutions are designed to do. It's about power and using people as your arsenal. That's why you should listen to Jesus and pray in your closet and associate only with people of your faith on an individualized basis. The Churches have been infiltrated more heavily than any other institution because they know people take their faith seriously.

 

[jbauer]

i didnt remember this until i got a notice on facebook.. but mccain suspend his campaign in 2008 and still went onto win the nomination

Didn't everyone "suspend" their campaign over the financial crisis? Until the bailout thing passed?

 

[K466]

Rand did the only sensible thing; there was no path to victory; he was probably out of the next debate, and had no strong polls in upcoming states, little money left, and a senate race crying for attention.

I hope over the next few days we start to think about strategy: that's a primary reason why things turned out so badly this year.

As far as 2020... Judge Napolitano would be ideal, capable of bringing the best, most exciting characteristics of Ron Paul's campaign back and a being great communicator with major TV experience.

 

[JK/SEA]

 

[Unknownuser]

It is only a suspension. Perhaps Rand is planning a come back. If that's the case than he is a genius. Why waste the money on a diluted playing field. There are still way to many players on the feild. My guess is all the other no namers will follow suite. One can hope right?