Rand suspends campaign

[limequat]

its all about the personality. People don't care about the issues.

This.

Judge was dead nuts on when he predicted Comancho.

 

[Dianne]

Rubio? The establishment stooge? This dude can't even show up for a damn vote 95% of the time. Do you really think he'd show up as president?

If you just look at all the neocons in the Senate coming out to endorse Rubio, it says it all. Cruz and Sanders have the most in common with Rand. They have some brutal disagreements, but do share many things in common. Of course Cruz called Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor, which puts Rand in a compromising position with McConnell if he does endorse Cruz. The libertarian vote will go to Cruz. For that reason, Rand should probably endorse him above the rest of the field.

 

[brandon]

I move to unban the Collins because all he did to get banned was say that this would happen. He was exactly right.

 

[loveshiscountry]

I'd like to see Rand endorse Johnson, who I voted for in 2012. Sadly, Rand endorsed Romney over his own father that year.. Seems likely Rand will endorse the Republican establishment candidate again.

No he didn't. He only endorsed Romney after his dad dropped out.

 

[Dianne]

I think the Republican party will do what they always do. Pick the dumbest candidate that they can so the Democrats get to enjoy another 4-8 years.

And that would be Rubio. I'm already suspicious of how Rubio went from 8% in the polls to getting above 20% in the Iowa caucus when Microsoft (a financial contributor to the Rubio campaign) tabulated the votes.

 

[Badger Paul]

"I think this is the responsible thing to do, and not waste donor money on a campaign that is not going to be winning. "

That to me is the most important takeaway although with a Senate campaign to run, I'm sure I will get plenty of emails to donate.

This wasn't about sending message, this was about winning and the prospects weren't good (the ground game in NH is even in worse shape than Iowa). Although, thinking about it last night, I wondered if Rand would stay in until the Kentucky caucuses, which are only a month away, which his campaign was extorted by the state party to pay for (which begs the question whether the campaign has even paid the bill yet and whether the party will just say screw it and go back to the May primary everyone is used to). It makes sense to end it now rather than go through a whole month delusion and recrimination.

If Rand endorses anyone from a ideological standpoint it would be Cruz but don't underestimate the animosity that exists between Cruz and his colleagues in the Senate

 

[ApathyCuredRP]

America is Rome 2.0. As long as people are fed and entertained, they will allow themselves to be boiled slowly. As long as the media propaganda machine has a hold of the public, they will be led to slaughter. Truth be told - the only way America turns itself around is through a huge huge huge amount of pain. People need to be hungry. People need to lose their houses. People need to be drafted for war. People need to loose their wealth. People need to lose their entertainment means. People need to die.

Even though our country is in trouble, the citizens are not feeling it yet. Once they do - it is our job to communicate why things are this way. It is our job to pierce through the bullshit and let people know how this all came to be. Save media on your devices. Save books. Save everything related to liberty. For when Rome 2.0 falls, the media and power establishment is going to try to use the crisis as a way to scare people into more government. Keep your eyes and ears open for when those false flags will start so that the power establishment can purge these problems through the toilet. War with Russia / China. Cyber attack on Wall Street. ISIS attack on US Soil.

Gather data. Gather records. Be ready to spread liberty when the citizens are ready to listen. They are not right now. They are not in true pain yet.

 

[Fivezeroes]

And that would be Rubio. I'm already suspicious of how Rubio went from 8% in the polls to getting above 20% in the Iowa caucus when Microsoft (a financial contributor to the Rubio campaign) tabulated the votes.

I said from the moment and was told I was overplaying my hand that some shenanigans were being pulled. How do you jump from 8% to above 20% without voter rigging? Diebold 2.0 is coming and this time it is spearheaded by Microshit. Where the hell is Anonymous when you need them to actually do some good.

 

[mit26chell]

Whatever happened to in it to win it?

 

[Rothbardian Girl]

 

[adam220891]

I am sad.

 

[Badger Paul]

"Cruz is far down that list, but he is the next best. Economic matters mean a lot more to me than anything else. I'll stomach social conservatism and warmongering for more free markets."

There is no free market under the military-industrial complex nor a theocracy.

 

[Ronin Truth]

According to HLN now, Rand is calling it quits for POTUS try, later today.

Stay tuned for confirmation.

 

[Jan2017]

It isn't Cruz love. He is the best remaining candidate on the markets. Who is better?

He is better at lying than anyone, but anyone that is eligible will beat him.
. . . so it's gonna be a Dem president for 4-8 years again.

 

[Fivezeroes]

He is better at lying than anyone, but anyone that is eligible will beat him.
. . . so it's gonna be a Dem president for 4-8 years again.

This no matter how you look at it, if Cruz or Rubio get the nod, the dems are going to use their secret weapons, the court systems, because NEITHER one is NBC. So we either get another Clinton or we get to become full blown socialist under Sanders. Either way RIP America.

 

[HarryBrowneLives]

This is right move for Rand. Shore up the Senate seat in a time where the voters were out in left field compared to our message. At the same time, (and I've never told this story) but Rand has some personality liabilities when it comes to glad handing and kissing babies like one has to do in a primary campaign for POTUS. About 18 months ago, shortly before he announced for President, I met Rand at an airport. I'm a sales exec and travel all the time. He was chatting with my local Senator and they were both on their way to Washington on my plane. In the lobby I just wanted to shake their hands and say HI. The other Senator was very friendly, but Rand was very stand offish and almost seemed offended that I approached them to say hi. Struck me as very rude and weird frankly in that the other Senator was so outgoing. True story. I was for Rand till the end, but if you are a hardcore introvert like that you shouldn't get in this game. It's a personal business.

 

[klamath]

I knew he was going to. You can't recover from that kind of defeat in your best state. It is why I was forced into making a choice between Rubio trump or cruz in the primaries.

This is what swayed me to Cruz.

“I think none of that makes any sense. In my view, we have no dog in the fight of the Syrian civil war,” he said, arguing that Rubio and Clinton “are repeating the very same mistakes they made in Libya. They’ve demonstrated they’ve learned nothing.”--Cruz.

 

[BenMuldowney]

No he didn't. He only endorsed Romney after his dad dropped out.

no.. he endorsed mitt before ron dropped out.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

I move to unban the Collins because all he did to get banned was say that this would happen. He was exactly right.

I move to keep him banned because he is such a negative poop (sorry for the strong language). It's not whether he was right or wrong (and I think he is wrong on most points) it's that he is one of these fucks that want to kick someone when they are down. When the Rand campaign could use some energy he was so eager to come in and post negative comments that did absolutely NO good and actually helped to drag Paul down. That's not promoting liberty and I for one don't like people who do their damnedest to kill liberty.

I drove the Rand Paul Corvette to many events in Iowa and was prepared to take it to S.C. and other states (couldn't make N.H.) trying to get liberty in the debate (as did Rand of course). I don't want to listen to un-liberty jerks who claim to be for liberty. A lie is a lie and the Collins is all about patting himself on the back about how smart he is and in reality he is WRONG. It was not "mistakes" made in the Paul camp that killed this run, it was the media and their love (hate) of Trump that took the steam out of the liberty message. As usual, the media shaped this election and now we can all go back to sleep because it doesn't matter if Hillary or Sanders become president (it won't be a republican you can bet on that) because either way it's 8 more years of herding us into slavery...

I'm looking for another country to move to... Any suggestions??

 

[Peace&Freedom]

If you just look at all the neocons in the Senate coming out to endorse Rubio, it says it all. Cruz and Sanders have the most in common with Rand. They have some brutal disagreements, but do share many things in common. Of course Cruz called Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor, which puts Rand in a compromising position with McConnell if he does endorse Cruz. The libertarian vote will go to Cruz. For that reason, Rand should probably endorse him above the rest of the field.

Between Trump and Cruz, a victory by Trump would be more disruptive of the establishment system, thus help liberty candidates out more in the longer term. From the point of view of holding at least some liberty positions, Cruz is more in line with Rand, which is why he was able to pilfer so many of Rand's votes.

But while both Trump and Cruz have presented as outsider candidates, the more details that come out, the more shady, phony and insincere Cruz appears. So there is little reason on balance for Rand to endorse Cruz. From the point of view of a "liberty first" preference, it would be better for Rand to endorse the LP or CP candidate, or run on those lines himself.