Rand Says: Any potential presidential campaign would include Jesse Benton

Right now Senator Paul doesn't even break double digits in national polls. So there is work to be done. If voters don't know he exist, they certainly won't vote for him. The first step, increase name ID. Once voters recognize the name, then you have start talking about a few issues which might sway them to support you. You can either do direct mail, but only if it good persuasive mail, go door to door, provided the paid staff or volunteers are effective at that and then ID on the phone. You can also convince voters with radio and TV ads.

http://http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/11/26/early-polls-where-things-stand-among-potential-2016-contenders/
 
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Primbs said:
I followed the Maine walkout, but if you were to do a poll, that term might not even register with one percent of the US population. Just like many people can't even name the vice president, much less a senator or congressman.
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No, but it did make the news and was broadcast on the networks, which qualifies as "an event on the news during the RNC" which is what you were listing.
 
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Wow. I only just heard this story. Just as I had gotten over all my Rand distrust and I started trying to bring people back into the fold. The Pauls are dead to me. I can't trust someone who would drag this crook along with him. And I certainly would never contribute another dime to pad his pocket. I held on to my precinct captain position for nothing. And I thought Rand was more serious about this than his father.
 
jjdoyle said:
Please show me one 100% false claim and lie that I have posted. Please. I will gladly remove, correct, and/or apologize if necessary.

Here's one of your many, and just recently:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-here-is-why&p=5722128&viewfull=1#post5722128

You are a protected class like Matt Collins, and a liar just like him. Here's your full quote and post below, where you lied about a fellow member and what they did and didn't say:
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Her post you originally quoted didn't say anything of the sort:


So, what are you talking about?

And, she is talking about Matt Collins being paid by the campaign in 2012 (see: working for it), and posting messages here on the forums during the campaign. I thought it was understood that Matt Collins was the "netroots" guy and so trusted by Jesse Benton that Benton called Collins about Tom Woods, instead of calling Tom Woods directly?"

Again though, where did she say, "I don't give a flip about who I hurt, as long as I can dig a knife into Collins"? or, as you said she said, "Your post straight out said that you didn't give a flip about who you hurt"?????

100% proven fact, based on your posts, you are a liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire. Probably also full of the digital diarrhea that you type all the time here as well.
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You can't back up your claim that Teh Collinz gets people banned--I know of no evidence he does, generally people who get banned leave plenty of evidence why and are reported by several irritated people--and everything else you say he gets away with, other people who have been very active in Ron Paul's campaign get away with and that does include you.

So, instead of backing up your claim that Matt gets extra special treatment that only Matt gets (and there was a time he did, back when he had some minor role in the campaign and was milking it for all he was worth and pretending that milking was useful to Ron Paul somehow, but that was then and not now) and someone asks you to back that up, you attack that person no matter who it is.

Just like you're about to attack me right now.

And once again, no one will be impressed. But even so, you will no more be banned for attacking me than Matt is. Same privilege. Hope you're enjoying it more than Matt is right now.
 
jjdoyle said:
The messaging the candidate was trying to get out? Which was? A fake delegate strategy? Bilking them of funds on a fake delegate strategy? Or, having someone with a questionable past headline one of the speeches at the OFFICIAL campaign rally:
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Who is that?
 
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Deborah K said:
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How in God's name is THIS bad press????? ^<br>
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Because it ties the candidate to people and events he had nothing to do with. <br>
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And given some of the people there, that can potentially be problematic.
 
Maltheus said:
Wow. I only just heard this story. Just as I had gotten over all my Rand distrust and I started trying to bring people back into the fold. The Pauls are dead to me. I can't trust someone who would drag this crook along with him. And I certainly would never contribute another dime to pad his pocket. I held on to my precinct captain position for nothing. And I thought Rand was more serious about this than his father.
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There goes Matt, winning more votes. Good job, Matt.
 
Matt Collins said:
National polls don't matter... only Iowa and New Hampshire matter at the moment....
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and I'm sure the contributions from people on this site, not to mention the free phone banking from some of us kinda helped in Iowa in 2012 didn't they?
 
Matt Collins said:
Because it ties the candidate to people and events he had nothing to do with.*<br>
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And given some of the people there, that can potentially be problematic.
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There were over 30 speakers, some of whom spoke at Ron's event as well. Ron offered to make a video for us, his family bought tickets to the event. His brother Wayne spoke at the event. But go ahead and continue to pretend like they tried so hard to distance themselves from us.

You and Benton hyper-focused on Kokesh, who was a minor player in all of this, because of Benton's hatred for him. And now you keep bringing up Vermin Supreme, who had nothing to do with anything, as a way to deceive lurkers into thinking he had something to do with the event. You've already proven with your own links that PF didn't get any bad publicity that reflected on Ron - LOL, so that attempt backfired on you. You're just trashing PF in an attempt to convince people that the grassroots needs to be controlled.

Your agenda is very clear. Who's putting you up to this, Collins?
 
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Matt Collins said:
Uhh... no, there was press about PF. And the entire idea of "no one will notice" is absurd in the age of the Internet... all it takes is for one bad article to get posted to the Internet and then repeated over and over.
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If that is all it was, you are correct, except that is not all it was.

Having people there like Vermin Supreme and Adam Kokesh can harm the credibility we have simply by association. People like to consider us fringe, why give them ammo they can use to prove it? :rolleyes:
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:rolleyes:

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Deborah K said:
I knew the story about Hunter, but I don't understand the comment Doyle made: Or, having someone with a questionable past headline one of the speeches.....

Did Hunter speak at the Sundome? Is that what he's referring?
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Not that I'm aware of. I think it was more of "people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" gotcha.
 
Todd said:
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Matt Collins said:
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Just imagine how hard Teh Collinz (TM) will be attacking Benton when he finally figures out that Benton won't ever be paying him any more money, either...

One of these days a research psychiatrist is going to get very famous--or very dead, or both--for discovering why the biggest heads have the smallest thoughts.
 
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