It is what it is, until some billionaire wants to step up and drop some big cash that might be all we have. Unfortunately it takes a LOT of money to win primaries regardless of how much grassroots support you have. I think they know this, if Ron, or Rand for that matter had the big financial backing along with their grassroots I think it would be very likely we'll have a President Paul. Lets just hang in there, remember, let it not be said we did nothing.
Rand Paul’s sneak attack strategy
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It is what it is, until some billionaire wants to step up and drop some big cash that might be all we have. Unfortunately it takes a LOT of money to win primaries regardless of how much grassroots support you have. I think they know this, if Ron, or Rand for that matter had the big financial backing along with their grassroots I think it would be very likely we'll have a President Paul. Lets just hang in there, remember, let it not be said we did nothing.
I've been thinking about that. Fiorina used the opportunity to introduce herself to the American people and she did a good job. Rand would be at the top of that tier and maybe wouldn't have to be so belligerent to get attention. He'd be sharing that space with Christy... So potential for drama (I.e. Coverage).
In a more rational setting, given The Donald's perpensity for nonsense and blather, perhaps his message of what HE plans to do for America could get out in a rational forum.
Would that be a bad thing?
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That's not what the article is about though. He says,
They're trying to actually "win" the popular vote that gets reported on election night, and these states are a good target to get those wins.
He's putting in work now in those states that will come just after Iowa and NH, which gives him a headstart while the others focus everything on them. And winning those states will position him well going past Super Tuesday.
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I was referencing the sentiment of "some" on here who pushed that route only back in 2012 and are thinking that would be the best route since Rand is landing in the 2 to 3% range in a few latest polls. Many thought such tactic was going to prevail with Ron and the establishment just ended up playing nasty and changed the rules all the way to the Convention.
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I agree. And just like I wanted Ron to, Rand should run Independent IF the establishment and government control media plays foul again.
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I would argue less money is needed than a billionaire and more favorable journalist, right talk radio and TV pundits are needed. Once they go negative on you, the sheep follows. It's why I support a law that bans media from mentioning anything political during an election because IMO, they determine who wins and loses.
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Ok, yeah I agree that Rand will need to put up some wins in the popular vote in those states because that's what gets reported on election night and gives a campaign a sense of momentum.
I just wanted to clarify for anyone that didn't read the article that that is the campaigns plan. These are states he should do well in and has a chance to win, and the "sneak attack" is campaigning there early and setting up a ground game while other candidates are focused on Iowa and NH.
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Alex Jones was bitching about Rand Paul on his show today. He was basically saying the man needs to get some balls, and start attacking the establishment. His mouth should be as loud or louder than Trumps. He says he loves Rand and will vote for him, but going after Trump, individually, was the wrong thing to do (I agree) . Rand needs to target Bush, get a loud mouth and rip him a new one.
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Absolutely! As for the chances, I'd say there is as high of a chance as there's been in 100 years. The reason being, I just can't see the Bush machine rolling over without a huge fight. In fact, I can see the Bush big money supporters/high level connections doing everything in their power to win this election and at the moment with Trump leading all the polls who knows, they very well could be plotting their own delegate strategy. I just can't see the Bush machine and even the republican party allowing Trump to win enough delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot if it comes to that. I think the only candidate they are supporting to with enough delegates outright is Jeb Bush. That's why I'm hoping Rand can at least come in 3rd with the delegate count race so he can essentially be a compromise for the Trump delegates refusing to back Bush and (gulp) the Bush delegates refusing to back Trump. I know this seems unlikely, but think about it. Obama vs. Hillary. By simply having those two candidates alone (I know there were a few others) they nearly and very well could have had a brokered convention themselves had it not been for Hillary throwing in the towel. Now with this years race on the republican side, you in a sense have your Obama in Trump, and Clinton with Bush. Add in the fact that there will be lets just say 10 to even 15 candidates that will be picking up delegates of their own. I think it's paramount that Rand at least comes in 3rd in the delegate race for this to work. If this happens and the Trump delegates see that they're not picking up Rand's diehard support and neither the support from the other (which is all, but Rand) establishment candidates, they could switch to Rand just out of spite knowing the fix is in for Bush. This can be there way of sticking it to the republican party because of their "unfair treatment" of Trump. I know many will say unlikely, but hey, we gotta play the cards we're dealt. Just hang in there guys no matter what happens!
Absolutely! As for the chances, I'd say there is as high of a chance as there's been in 100 years. The reason being, I just can't see the Bush machine rolling over without a huge fight. In fact, I can see the Bush big money supporters/high level connections doing everything in their power to win this election and at the moment with Trump leading all the polls who knows, they very well could be plotting their own delegate strategy. I just can't see the Bush machine and even the republican party allowing Trump to win enough delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot if it comes to that. I think the only candidate they are supporting to win with enough delegates outright on the first ballot is Jeb Bush. That's why I'm hoping Rand can at least come in 3rd with the delegate count race so he can essentially be a compromise for the Trump delegates refusing to back Bush and (gulp) the Bush delegates refusing to back Trump. I know this seems unlikely, but think about it. Obama vs. Hillary. By simply having those two candidates alone (I know there were a few others) they nearly and very well could have had a brokered convention themselves had it not been for Hillary throwing in the towel. Now with this years race on the republican side, you in a sense have your Obama in Trump, and Clinton with Bush. Add in the fact that there will be lets just say 10 to even 15 candidates that will be picking up delegates of their own. I think it's paramount that Rand at least comes in 3rd in the delegate race for this to work. If this happens and the Trump delegates see that they're not picking up Rand's diehard support and neither the support from the other (which is all, but Rand) establishment candidates, they could switch to Rand just out of spite knowing the fix is in for Bush. This can be there way of sticking it to the republican party because of their "unfair treatment" of Trump. I know many will say unlikely, but hey, we gotta play the cards we're dealt. Just hang in there guys no matter what happens!
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Yes. And I highly doubt there will be many "Donald Trump Delegates" in the sense in which there could be "Rand Paul Delegates". I mean the liberty movement knows how to play that strategy, are very imformed, experienced. Donald Trump followers are ver low informed ppl who wont go to the conventions and bother with that. So the best what could happen is that Trump gets about 20-30% of the total delegates (in the sense of "bound for 1st ballot"), making it impossible for the other candidates to have the absolute majority.
(Still, its very early in the race and blabla bla, but the above is still true)
