Rand Paul walks out of Ryan's Obamacare meeting

[William Tell]

Republicans have reached a gut check moment: After spending more than six years vowing to fix the flagging patient that is Obamacare, it’s the GOP’s own repeal effort that’s on life support.

Undoing the health care law despised by conservatives seemed to be a straightforward proposition for the party after it won the White House and retained control of both chambers of Congress. Instead, Republicans are sniping over how much of the law to scrap, what to replace it with and when. At this moment, it's far from a sure thing any plan could get through Congress.


Consider Paul Ryan's feel-good meeting with Senate Republicans on Tuesday. The House speaker trekked across the Capitol to reassure senators that lawmakers are making more progress toward repealing the health care law than the media are reporting.


But not everyone was buying it. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) left before it was over, having heard enough of a conversation that he says centers around keeping Obamacare's Medicaid expansion intact and creating tax credits that he called a "new entitlement program," though a Republican in the room rebutted the notion that the topic of Medicaid expansion came up in the Tuesday meeting with Ryan.


“I hear things that are unacceptable to me,” Paul said in an interview afterward. “If they don’t seem to care what conservatives think about complete repeal of Obamacare, they’re going to be shocked when they count the votes.”


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Republicans said Price's word is as good as Trump's on Obamacare, giving him an important assignment on Wednesday. But when Price addresses Senate Republicans on Wednesday, Paul, for one, won’t be there. He’s scheduled to give a news conference at that time with Freedom Caucus members about his bare-bones Obamacare replacement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/obamacare-repeal-replace-republicans-235020

 

[donnay]

Scrap the whole damn thing. Replace it with nothing! Let the free market take over.

 

[jllundqu]

I hope Rand Paul keeps hammering his bill.... I would love to see Rand get this passed.... would be a HUGE feather in his cap and a win for LIBERTY

 

[jmdrake]

Scrap the whole damn thing. Replace it with nothing! Let the free market take over.

In order for free markets to take over Obamacare has to be more than scrapped. It must be replaced. Or to put it another way, other government impediments to free market healthcare that existed before Obamacare need to be scrapped. Things like health insurance companies not being able to compete across state lines or drug patent laws that allow companies to gouge patients for life saving drugs. (Yes. Most people don't realize this but patents are a government enforce monopoly. Nothing wrong with patents to a point but the shouldn't be allowed to be abused like they were in the case of the EpiPen.) Also tax law should be changed so that individuals get the same tax break for buying private insurance that businesses get for buying insurance for their employees.

In 2009, John Mackey, then president of Whole Foods, but forward an 8 point plan to improve healthcare without adding to the deficit. The liberal response? Boycott Whole Foods.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070

 

[dannno]

Like a boss.

In order for free markets to take over Obamacare has to be more than scrapped. It must be replaced. Or to put it another way, other government impediments to free market healthcare that existed before Obamacare need to be scrapped.

lol ya that is exactly what Rand means when he says that.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Go Rand!

And fuck a bunch of establishment GOP.

You fuckers passed a repeal bill five fucking times when you knew Obama would veto it.

Just pass the same bill again, you spineless cunts.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Also tax law should be changed so that individuals get the same tax break for buying private insurance that businesses get for buying insurance for their employees.

Yes, this.

All medical expenses, including premiums, should be 100% deductible.

 

[georgiaboy]

Take it to the court of public opinion! Light up the talk shows and media outlets with outrage!

Time to nut the hell up!

 

[Matt Collins]

This is where Rand is brilliant ha ha ha:

But when Price addresses Senate Republicans on Wednesday, Paul, for one, won’t be there. He’s scheduled to give a news conference at that time with Freedom Caucus members about his bare-bones Obamacare replacement.

 

[seapilot]

If they only tweak this Obamacare it will eventually end up into a single payer system. Now is the time to sledge hammer it and let the free markets work.

Reminds me of the movie fast food nation. Animal rights activists opened a gate in the middle of the night to free the cows from slaughter. The cows were too scared to run free even after the activists tried to chase them out, they ran back in. Lots of cows in the GOP.

 

[angelatc]

“If they don’t seem to care what conservatives think about complete repeal of Obamacare, they’re going to be shocked when they count the votes.”

They'd rather work with the Democrats than us, though.

 

[CPUd]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/831937126149275650

 

[CPUd]

Looks like this is the only thing that has support in both the House and Senate.

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/831936421699129346

 

[Jan2017]

Healthcare freedom . . . NOT having to check the box on your 2016 Form 1040 for "Full (12 months) coverage"
or else ya'll need to include an extra payment to Uncle Sam

 

[specsaregood]

Looks like this is the only thing that has support in both the House and Senate.

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/831936421699129346

but I just read the other day that his bill has no cosponsors in the senate.

 

[CPUd]

but I just read the other day that his bill has no cosponsors in the senate.

They're waiting for permission from the White House.

 

[specsaregood]

They're waiting for permission from the White House.

Well maybe we need a tweet to start retweeting at the Donald to that effect.

 

[CPUd]

Soon.

 

[Valli6]

Rand Paul coming up on Neil Cavuto's show - 2/15/27

Rand Paul coming up on on Neil Cavuto's show (Foxnews) 2/15/17 to talk about this.

edit: Rand says he's telling them now, "We will NOT support partial repeal."
also spoke about Gen Flynn - said whoever leaked the info about Flynn's conversation belongs in jail.

 

[CPUd]

Looks like a fight

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/831981870485225473