Rand Paul vows to filibuster 'patriot act' reauth

[surf]

I need this. I need this to show some folks that are lunging away from showing any support for a republican that Rand is different and principled.

I need this to be big enough to undo a bunch of "prayer breakfasts" and bloated military budgets. during his filibuster, if he comes out in favor of marriage/government disinvolvement, he'll win my town.

 

[nikcers]

[h=1]Rand Paul is about to have a shining moment on the Patriot Act[/h]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...moment-on-the-patriot-act/?wprss=rss_politics

This is one one those moments the whole country is watching for, I think if he does it right he will win our trust.

 

[devil21]

[h=1]Rand Paul is about to have a shining moment on the Patriot Act[/h]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...moment-on-the-patriot-act/?wprss=rss_politics

This is one one those moments the whole country is watching for, I think if he does it right he will win our trust.

Surprisingly good article from Wapo, of all places. Good comments too but needs more! Even the lefty trolls can't bite into that one without looking stupid and anti-privacy.

 

[teaparty]

the patriot act is being abused by obama and the RINOS imo

 

[surf]

the patriot act is being abused by obama and the RINOS imo

welcome new person. these forums have become slightly more statist than libertarian over the years, but you'll not be alone if you view this piece of shit patriot act legislation as one of the most dangerous, vile, and unconstitutional laws ever written.

there really isn't a d or an r position on this, don't be fooled. there's liberty/freedom position or force.

i'm hoping Rand hits it out of the park.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

First of all, he should never have announced this beforehand, because now his political opponents have time to maneuver against him and think of ways to cheat him out of this moment of glory, which has the potential to be a pivotal moment in US history such as "tear down this wall", or "I have a dream".

Second of all, this might explain his vote on the Vitter subpoena. Some political horse trading is going on behind the scenes. Crushing a subpoena in exchange for a filibuster? Sounds like a good trade to me

 

[Aratus]

i admire Rand Paul.

 

[Mach]

I hope he writes up some good points that speak blatantly about the people that are for these sick Patriot renewals, he needs to get a little shocking to make sure that word gets around about what these people are really for and are really trying to do.... just like dad use to do.

Also, always remember these pro-Patriot Actors and don't ever let anyone forget what they really are when they come up for re-election.... no matter what they say.

 

[tsai3904]

First of all, he should never have announced this beforehand, because now his political opponents have time to maneuver against him and think of ways to cheat him out of this moment of glory, which has the potential to be a pivotal moment in US history such as "tear down this wall", or "I have a dream".

Since he announced this beforehand, it implies it's not going to be a talking filibuster, which usually only happens when you catch the controlling party off guard.

 

[Jan2017]

First of all, he should never have announced this beforehand, . . .

That is a political strategy.

This is Rand being a Senator, doing a Senator's job as much as being a candidate.
June 1 is a deadline for the Congress to act on the Patriot Act, and lines were already being drawn in the sand . . .

Rand and Democrat Wyden on one side maybe, and Rubio and the neocons on the other.

"The first real debate of 2016 kicked off in earnest on Thursday (May 7) after a federal court ruled
that the Patriot Act does not allow the National Security Agency to mass collect the phone data of Americans."

"Following the court ruling, Rubio joined Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senators Tom Cotton and
Richard Burr to offer a full-throated defense of the NSA and accused critics of the programs of lying."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katenocera/...e-of-2016-is-about-the-patriot-act#.tb16p0jGb

So let's see Rubio's "full-throated defense of the NSA"

Rand will need to be very careful, they will challenge the accuracy of what he says.
Rand may have already believed that there have not been any foiled terrorist plots because of the Patriot Act. (Time magazine (?))
That might be a boldly, in-your-face, unequivocal statement Rand may not know for certain, regardless of his source,
and if it turns out is inaccurate . . . NOT good to make.

So I thought of, and looked up, the jet fuel undeground pipeline plot at JFK years ago to see if Rand was correct.
It was reportedly not technically feasible to do what was plotted. For one, they would need heavy bulldozer type equipment -
kinda like bin Laden in his youth used in Afghanistan to dig trenches to defeat the Russians. Duh.
(I am not entirely sold on that feasibility spin, as i.e. " impossible to melt down the Twin Towers ?)

Regardless, as for anybody knowing what was REALLY used to dismantle that "plot" . . . well, knowing that with certainty may just not be possible.

 

[JohnGalt1225]

Good job Rand, give'em hell. I think this is one topic where everyone on here can fully agree. The TPP stuff had got me kind of down lately but if Rand can go down as the man who killed the Patriot Act that would make him an American hero and an icon in my mind.