Rand Paul votes YEA on Confirming Hagel

[twomp]

I was surprised to see NRO's McCarthy blame them:

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Yup! At least Rand Paul has some cover for this. On a side note, if he makes it to the general election in 2016, this vote can be used to his benefit. Well at least to some of the people who actually know who Hagel is. The anti-war people.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

I feel the same way after reading all the comments on Rand's facebook page. Almost 90% of comments on his page during the last 24 hours have been blasting Rand for voting for Hagel and being anti-Israel. Who are these people and why are they so easily manipulated?

The GOP base. Second answer is conditioning of fealty to Israel, from family, churches, and media.

 

[angelatc]

I guess I'm really out of touch with Talk Radio nowadays. I really don't understand why these people are going nuts.

It's the Israel lobby, creating drama.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Nobody will care. Have you ever heard of an election turning on a confirmation vote?

People really overestimate their own knowledge of what does and does not affect an election around here.

 

[angelatc]

The "Principles" of Chuck Hagel


H.J.Res. 114: Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002
- Chuck Hagel: Yes

S.J.Res. 23: Authorization for Use of Military Force
- Chuck Hagel: Yes

S. 1438: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002
- Chuck Hagel: Yes

H.R. 3162: Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001
- Chuck Hagel: Yes

H.R. 5005: Homeland Security Act of 2002
- Chuck Hagel: Yes

S. 1927: Protect America Act of 2007
- Chuck Hagel: Yes

Chuck Hagel is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Chuck Hagel scored a 44% on the Constitutional Voting Index

Endorsed by Zbigniew Brzezinski

Endorsed by Barack Obama

Why the War Party Fears Chuck Hagel


My original comment still stands. He was the best we were going to get.

And I might point out that if he had voted No on any of those items that you're desperately throwing around, the GOP base would have been even more against him. So I'm not sure what your point actually even is.

 

[angelatc]

Nobody will care. Have you ever heard of an election turning on a confirmation vote?

Exactly right. Heck, the TEA Party was in Allan West's corner after he sold them out and called them names.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Yup! At least Rand Paul has some cover for this. On a side note, if he makes it to the general election in 2016, this vote can be used to his benefit. Well at least to some of the people who actually know who Hagel is. The anti-war people.

It's not going to hurt Rand Paul in the primary or the general, nor will it help him. Nobody is going to base their vote over Hagel in 2016.

 

[anaconda]

So, does Glen Beck's "new libertarianism" fall short of restraining foreign interventionism and imperialistic warfare in the middle east? Beck's "new libertarianism" should have him jumping through hoops for Hagel.

 

[anaconda]

BTW I hope Rand includes some of Pat Buchanan's recent talking points on neocons and Iran when he appears on Beck's show tomorrow. Then Beck can officially begin his condemnation of Rand and we can go back to normal.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Forum hiccup.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

So, does Glen Beck's "new libertarianism" fall short of restraining foreign interventionism and imperialistic warfare in the middle east? Beck's "new libertarianism" should have him jumping through hoops for Hagel.

Pastor Beck's "new" libertarianism supports whatever is perceived to be in the best interest of Israel. But is that new, or just an existing strain of libertarianism? Opinion on what is actually in the best interest of Israel breaks that sub-grouping down even further.

All Democrats got behind Hagel, so his nomination was acceptable to them, which indicates that the Hagel controversy was more a Democrat vs. GOP battle in reality. If Hagel was truly "anti-Israel" as some pundits have been screaming for months, he wouldn't have received any support from the majority of Democrats either.

 

[itshappening]

The defense secretary does not run foreign policy or have anything to do with Israel and its relationship with the U.S

Surely these "conservatives" in the media are smart enough to realize that.

Hagel is going to be kept busy enough with the day to day management of the Pentagon which is a huge department and has a huge budget which is out of control.