RAND PAUL: Texas is going to be a Democrat State in 10 years if we don't change

It sounds like he is for letting illegals in...Am I wrong?

If that's the case, Rand will have a tough time getting nominated. That's as big an issue as abortion... very divisive.
 
It sounds like he is for letting illegals in...Am I wrong?

If that's the case, Rand will have a tough time getting nominated. That's as big an issue as abortion... very divisive.

Work visas. That's what he's advocating.
 
I think Rand can still win because Jeb, Jindal, Walker and others are so terrible on the immigration issue. What would have to happen is someone like Tom Cotton, Jeff Sessions or Steve King enters the race with Neocon money and takes enough of Rand's vote so Walker or Jindal can win.

Rand's wrong by a decade though. A liberal website explained it will be at least 2036 before Texas goes blue and if the Democrats are winning enough adult white voters in Texas they are winning the midwest in a landslide.

The only way to stop Texas going Blue in 20 or 30 years would be to stop all international immigration and import enough Americans from interstate. But beating Hilary this decade is more important than worrying about whether the GOP's Suicide happens in 2030,2040 or 2050.

If Obama and Hilary get 16 years no-one in the GOP base is going to care whether the party is electable. You won't get back from there.
 
Last edited:
It sounds like he is for letting illegals in...Am I wrong?

If that's the case, Rand will have a tough time getting nominated. That's as big an issue as abortion... very divisive.

It is more than that though, because the GOP position on abortion turns off voters who otherwise might vote Republican. Illegal Immigration doesn't. Demographics of California and Texas are virtually identical. If the GOP were able to distance themselves from Southern Evangelical Culture, they might actually gain the votes of middle to upper class whites that vote for them in Texas but don't vote for them in California. If they change their position on illegal immigration, on the other hand, the only change would be millions of new Democratic voters in both states.

GOP needs to get their heads out of their asses on the whole immigration thing. I don't even know what Rand's position is. "If you want to come here, and want to work, we'll find a place for you?" What does that even mean? If 60 million poor Mexicans want to come here to work, Rand is fine with letting that happen? If 100 million poor Indians and 200 million poor Africans want to come here to work Rand is cool with that too?

The wacky thing about the "immigration debate" in this country is that there is no actual debate about policy. Why doesn't the GOP get proactive and offer real immigration reform modeled around how every other country in the world handles it? Here is New Zealand's system.
You also have to prove basic competency in English. Why doesn't the GOP push for a points and qualifications based immigration system? You can set aside a small percentage of slots outside the system for migrant workers, and everybody else is put in to a pool where you are ranked based on results of an English Test, IQ Test, and NZ style qualification points system?
 
In my opinion, he's trying to make the whole immigration debate a non-issue in the Republican primary. The difference will be where it should be, on government overreach, crony-capitalism, NSA spying, the national debt, etc.
 
It sounds like he is for letting illegals in...Am I wrong?

Congressional Votes - The Paul amendment would make immigration reform contingent on
Congress voting to certify that the border is secure by annual votes of both the House and the Senate.

• Triggers - Triggers require Congress to vote on every year whether the border is secure as measured
by specific criteria, such as:
o Requiring a double-layered fence be completed in five years and that every year sufficient
progress is made to complete that promise, with specific miles-per-year requirements;
o Completion of an effective exit and entry program at all points of entry that tracks visa
holders;
o Progress on reaching the goal of 95% effective capture of illegal entrants; and,
o 100% incarceration until trial for newly-captured illegal entrants and overstays.
o New undocumented immigrant numbers have been reduced to a negligible level as measured
by the U.S. Census and the Department of Homeland Security.

• Report - The Department of Homeland Security must produce an annual report on border security
and progress toward completion of the double layered fence, as well as verifiable metrics. This report
will trigger the annual Congressional vote. The Inspector General’s office will review report and
provide analysis to Congress.

• Border States - Governors of Border States are allowed and encouraged to submit a report and testify
about improvements to border security.

• Immigration Conditional on Secure Border - Makes immigration status dependent on
congressional votes on the border being increasingly secure. Only 2 million RPI applications may be
approved in a given year provided that passage of a Joint Resolution verifying that the border is
secure. If a Joint Resolution is not passed, then no more RPI applications shall be approved.

• Added Border Security Protections – Additional provisions to strengthen security:
o A Student Visa National Security Registration system is created to add increased security
screening of students coming from countries known to be incubators of extremism and
exporters of international terrorism.
o Enhanced checks of status, location, and activities of students here on visas.
o Enhanced screening of individuals petitioning for asylum and refugee status.

Rand Paul wanted to add this amendment to the Gang of 8 bill, then pass the bill. As you can see, he is not for "letting illegals in". He's for assimilating the illegals already here and reducing the numbers of illegals that will enter the US in the future.
 
“Tipped approval” ha ha Rand has seen nothing yet. Rand message to conservative “ i’ll cut your Medicare and social security you paid for like no other candidate since we don’t have money but we need to spend 6.3 trillion on illegal immigrants so that i can get some votes from 10% Latino electorate . Rand thinks conservative are stupid and they don’t know how California changed from being the capital of conservatives to a liberal heaven.

 
“Tipped approval” ha ha Rand has seen nothing yet. Rand message to conservative “ i’ll cut your Medicare and social security you paid for like no other candidate since we don’t have money but we need to spend 6.3 trillion on illegal immigrants so that i can get some votes from 10% Latino electorate . Rand thinks conservative are stupid and they don’t know how California changed from being the capital of conservatives to a liberal heaven. Rand will be nothing more than a one term senator.
 
Back
Top