Rand Paul spox: Fed gov't should bar businesses from discriminating

[paulpwns]

It's not a flip flop.


"Do you think that a private business has the right to say we don't serve black people?" he was asked by MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
"Yes. I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form," he added at the beginning of a lengthy answer in which he likened the question to one about limiting freedom of speech for racists. "I don't want to be associated with those people, but I also don't want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that's one of the things freedom requires. ..."

 

[paulitics]

It's not a flip flop.

Yes it is, I just watched the Maddow interview. Maddow asked him 6 times if he supported provision of the CRA that banned private businesses from discriminating. Rand most certainly was not in favor of using the fed govt to ban businesses who discriminate. This istatement from Benton says he is.

 

[sirgonzo420]

Yes it is, I just watched the Maddow interview. Maddow asked him 6 times if he supported provision of the CRA that banned private businesses from discriminating. Rand most certainly not in favor of using the fed govt to ban businesses who discriminate.

But Rand didn't flip flop...


JESSE FUCKIN' BENTON FLIP-FLOPPED HIM!


Benton needs to be OUT of the campaign YESTERDAY!

 

[RM918]

I hope this isn't official, because him being wishy-washy is a way bigger deal than his view on a part of a 40 year old piece of legislation.

Rand didn't disavow it on CNN today, so I'm staying with the hope that Benton is off the reservation here.

 

[Original_Intent]

Worst development so far.

 

[Ninja Homer]

Here's the Situation Room vid from just a short while ago... how does it compare to Benton's statement?

YouTube - Rand Paul- SOMETIMES Govt SHOULD step in

 

[sirgonzo420]

"Rand Paul Defends Views on Race"

should read

"Rand Paul Defends Views on Property Rights"

FUCK THE MEDIA

 

[surGeon]

God dammit Benton! Rand Paul is already seen by some as having flip flopped on Iran and abortion. This is not helping things.

 

[Baptist]

Fruit didn't fall way far away from the tree, but it did fall a good distance from it.

 

[sirgonzo420]

TO RAND PAUL:

Please, for the love of Liberty, keep Benton AWAY from alllllllll media contact.

 

[erowe1]

Since Benton is Rand's brother-in-law, he probably won't be fired, but he should be moved to a position where he has no direct contact with the press.

Isn't he a nephew-in-law?

 

[damiengwa]

Here's the Situation Room vid from just a short while ago... how does it compare to Benton's statement?

YouTube - Rand Paul- SOMETIMES Govt SHOULD step in

He still didn't say that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should intervene to desegregate a restaurant. He promoted local solutions. Or am i missing something?

 

[Hamer]

Flip-flop?

I don't know, that's what I am asking. Did he flip flop or did Jesee blow it again by opening his mouth?

 

[RyanRSheets]

Wasn't Benton also behind Ron Paul being in Bruno and Bob Barr being in Borat?

 

[Nathan Hale]

now all you appologist libertarians have gotten your way. Benton just flip-flopped Rand. Brilliant. I know this kid is family, but how in the world on a day with a huge firestorm about what the candidate said, is Betton speaking on behalf of Rand. Especially saying something counter to Rand.

you really think a 25 pnt lead will die b/c of one principled position against a small piece of the '64 act?

But flip-flopping? Thats worse.

All you 'ooh please like me better' libertarians have just gotten your way. Lets see the result.

I call bullshit on your demonization of moderate libertarianism. It's not all about ":ohh, like me better", it's just that most of us aren't ZAPs. That said, I disagree with a Rand flip-flop because it's a flip-flop, but please don't make this into a condemnation of reasonable/moderate libertarianism, or you and I are going to have a lengthy conversation in another thread.

 

[Nathan Hale]

He still didn't say that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT should intervene to desegregate a restaurant. He promoted local solutions. Or am i missing something?

Yes, at 3:30

 

[damiengwa]

I call bullshit on your demonization of moderate libertarianism. It's not all about ":ohh, like me better", it's just that most of us aren't ZAPs. That said, I disagree with a Rand flip-flop because it's a flip-flop, but please don't make this into a condemnation of reasonable/moderate libertarianism, or you and I are going to have a lengthy conversation in another thread.

As opposed to what? Unreasonable Unmoderate libertarianism. So is it reasonable libertarianism to back down from the right position on the 64 act and adopt the statist view: it was such a big problem that ONLY THE GOVERNMENT could solve it and with direct force of the Federal level no less. That's what Rand did. The record should be clear and if people don't see it, they are in denial. But there are folks patting him on the back. That's not 'minarchism.' Thats approving of selling out on principle.

You think John stossel is a good moderate libertarian? He went on fox and proposed the whole repeal of it. He gets an A. Rand a C-.

Agree or disagree?

 

[Nathan Hale]

As opposed to what? Unreasonable Unmoderate libertarianism. So is it reasonable libertarianism to back down from the right position on the 64 act and adopt the statist view: it was such a big problem that ONLY THE GOVERNMENT could solve it. That's what Rand did. The record should be clear and if people don't see it, they are in denial. But there are folks patting him on the back. That's not 'minarchism.' Thats approving of selling out on principle.

Agree or disagree?

My point was that I disagree that Rand's position has anything to do with libertarianism. Libertarianism ISNT minarchism. It's a broad portion of the political spectrum.

 

[damiengwa]

sorry i edited and extended the preview nathan...

what about stossel?

 

[Ninja Homer]

Isn't he a nephew-in-law?

Yup, my bad.