Rand Paul one of only two to vote against Ukraine aid/Russia sanctions bill

[tsai3904]

Roll call:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00088

Dean Heller was the only other No vote.

The House voted on their own version of the bill today. Here's the House roll call: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll148.xml

 

[fisharmor]

I don't understand how saying you're going to do something and then doing the opposite is politically savvy.

 

[juleswin]

I don't understand how saying you're going to do something and then doing the opposite is politically savvy.

Because he has his own version of sanction which is even more toothless than the one being voted for. My guess is that he rather vote for it which doesn't cost the US anything, punishes Ukraine by denying it funds and then opens US sale of LNG to Ukraine which is unlikely to hurt Russia even in the decade or so it would take to completely set up the infrastructure to enable it

 

[surf]

yay. good for him. i'm a happier and more content supporter today.

 

[tsai3904]

I don't understand how saying you're going to do something and then doing the opposite is politically savvy.

He never said he supported sending aid or providing loan guarantees to Ukraine.

 

[specsaregood]

He never said he supported sending aid or providing loan guarantees to Ukraine.

Exactly, in fact he explicitly and repeatedly said we should stop doing so as it was economically stupid and the money would just go into Russia's pockets.

 

[ObiRandKenobi]

good job

 

[georgiaboy]

the master at work.

 

[Brett85]

Because he has his own version of sanction which is even more toothless than the one being voted for. My guess is that he rather vote for it which doesn't cost the US anything, punishes Ukraine by denying it funds and then opens US sale of LNG to Ukraine which is unlikely to hurt Russia even in the decade or so it would take to completely set up the infrastructure to enable it

No, he didn't oppose the bill because of the sanctions. He opposed the bill because of the foreign aid. I'm glad that he's at least a strong fiscal conservative. I'll definitely give him credit for voting against this, although this particular vote was just an amendment I believe and not the final vote. I think he just allowed the final vote to go through on a voice vote because he didn't figure there was any need to force a vote on a bill that only he and Heller would vote against.

 

[tsai3904]

I'll definitely give him credit for voting against this, although this particular vote was just an amendment I believe and not the final vote. I think he just allowed the final vote to go through on a voice vote because he didn't figure there was any need to force a vote on a bill that only he and Heller would vote against.

This amendment completely substituted the entire House bill with the Menendez-Corker bill. The vote on this amendment and final passage would have been votes on exactly the same thing.

 

[William Tell]

Sadly, Mark Sanford voted for it in the House. That's a real shame. 17 Republicans, and 2 Democrats
voted NO.

Republicans who voted NO:

Justin Amash
Kerry Bentivolio
Paul Broun
Michael Burgess
Scott DesJarlais
Jimmy Duncan
Chris Gibson
Walter Jones
Raul Labrador
Thomas Massie
Mick Mulvaney
Bill Posey
Dana Rohrabacher
Todd Rokita
Steve Stockman
Ted Yoho
Don Young (Alaska)

Democrats who voted NO:
Beto O'Rourke
Alan Grayson

 

[Brett85]

This amendment completely substituted the entire House bill with the Menendez-Corker bill. The vote on this amendment and final passage would have been votes on exactly the same thing.

Ok, thanks.

 

[Philhelm]

I don't understand how saying you're going to do something and then doing the opposite is politically savvy.

Rand Paul was winking at you.

 

[Hyperion]

This vote makes me feel really good about Paul Broun.

 

[William Tell]

This vote makes me feel really good about Paul Broun.

Yep, and it looks like good ole' Bentivolio is making us proud once again.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Three whole minutes before someone came whining how it still wasn't good enough. Y'all are slipping. I expect to see the rejection down to 90 seconds the next time Rand agrees with us. Slackers.

 

[William Tell]

Three whole minutes before someone came whining how it still wasn't good enough. Y'all are slipping. I expect to see the rejection down to 90 seconds the next time Rand agrees with us. Slackers.

Hear hear!

 

[jtstellar]

I'll definitely give him credit for voting against this, although this particular vote was just an amendment I believe and not the final vote. I think he just allowed the final vote to go through on a voice vote because he didn't figure there was any need to force a vote on a bill that only he and Heller would vote against.

wow so we're keeping count now? great news. because if you just read the resident whiners, you would think rand is like 2-8 or something

 

[Hyperion]

Yep, and it looks like good ole' Bentivolio is making us proud once again.

Bentivolio has had some great votes recently and he's cosponsered a bill to end the income tax. I hate that he got off to a poor start but he's certainly better than your typical establishment shill that his district would likely replace him with.

 

[William Tell]

Bentivolio has had some great votes recently and he's cosponsered a bill to end the income tax. I hate that he got off to a poor start but he's certainly better than your typical establishment shill that his district would likely replace him with.

Glad to see the prodigal son come home!