Rand Paul on The O'Reilly Factor 6/11/13 (video added)

Typical oreilly talking over his guest and changing the subject before they can even answer.
 
That's such a strange position: I don't care that they have all this data, as long as they don't read it until they have permission. Is it OK to put a security camera in everyone's homes and record them 24/7 as long as it isn't watched until a warrant is issued? It's a moot point anyways because it's pretty obvious they are looking at them without permission, which O'Reily refuses to except. I'll never understand why people who don't trust the government with one dollar of tax money will trust them blindly with civil liberty issues.
 
Imagine if Snowden & Greenwald release private email, innocuous but private nonetheless, of OReilly, Limbaugh, Coulter, Levin, oh, and maybe Drudge, Ms. Huffington, and for good measure some Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow.

Just to give a sample of what the NSA has access to.

It'd be all over.
 
georgiaboy said:
Imagine if Snowden & Greenwald release private email, innocuous but private nonetheless, of OReilly, Limbaugh, Coulter, Levin, oh, and maybe Drudge, Ms. Huffington, and for good measure some Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow.

Just to give a sample of what the NSA has access to.

It'd be all over.
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As we saw with the AP scandal, the only way you get the media to give two shits about any of this is if you give them proof that one of them is getting persecuted.
 
georgiaboy said:
Imagine if Snowden & Greenwald release private email, innocuous but private nonetheless, of OReilly, Limbaugh, Coulter, Levin, oh, and maybe Drudge, Ms. Huffington, and for good measure some Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow.

Just to give a sample of what the NSA has access to.

It'd be all over.
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That would be brilliant and to boot, they should release the private emails of McCain, Feinstein and Graham as well.
 
georgiaboy said:
Imagine if Snowden & Greenwald release private email, innocuous but private nonetheless, of OReilly, Limbaugh, Coulter, Levin, oh, and maybe Drudge, Ms. Huffington, and for good measure some Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow.

Just to give a sample of what the NSA has access to.

It'd be all over.
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Now THAT would be brilliant.
 
He wasn't as polite as last time. Bill is worked up into a lather because he's conflicted on Snowden. Hard to demonize and call him a traitor like Feinstein and Boehner and he knows its a tough sell to the audience.
 
Warlord said:
He wasn't as polite as last time. Bill is worked up into a lather because he's conflicted on Snowden. Hard to demonize and call him a traitor like Feinstein and Boehner and he knows its a tough sell to the audience.
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I get the feeling that Rand wasn't prep at all (or was prepped very poorly) by staff for this interview.

Given the size of OReilly's audience, his not-so-supportive views towards some of Rand's positions, Team Rand's goal to slowly-but-surely, win him (mostly) over and the fact that PRISM = an opportunity for Rand & Bill to *team up* against Obama/Liberals (which builds camaraderie), I'm surprised that Rand (or rather, his staff) didn't make the most of this opportunity.

OReilly's talking points from the night before made clear he wanted to zero in on PRISM and how collecting domestic internet activity, emails and/or meta-data, is a massive violation of the 4th amendment.
 
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WD-NY said:
I get the feeling that Rand wasn't prep at all (or was prepped very poorly) by staff for this interview.

Given the size of OReilly's audience, his not-so-supportive views towards some of Rand's positions, Team Rand's goal to slowly-but-surely, win him (mostly) over and the fact that PRISM = an opportunity for Rand & Bill to *team up* against Obama/Liberals (which builds camaraderie), I'm surprised that Rand (or rather, his staff) didn't make the most of this opportunity.

OReilly's talking points from the night before made clear he wanted to zero in on PRISM and how collecting domestic internet activity, emails and/or meta-data, is a massive violation of the 4th amendment.
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Bill's primary interest is always to defend the National Security state and the War on Terror rather than being anti-Obama who he wants to prosecute it. This is why he's trying to whitewash the domestic FISA order on Verizon and attempted to talk over Rand when he raised the possibility of orders against AT&T and a billion records.

Instead he feigns concern about them reading his emails. He's more interested in everythng being lawful and correct. There's no doubt they're complying with every law. The laws suck. But as long as its lawful Bill O can sell that to his audience in the name of safety and protection. If he's really concerned about them having his emails he'd call for a change in the law but he won't.

Rand did a good job I thought keeping it focused on the phone records and what he knows is a contravention of the Fourth Amendment.
 
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Kudos to Rand for repeating Greenwald's point about "meta data" analysis creating a privacy-invading data set on a person, without having to actually "listen" to the content of a phone call.

I would love to see Greenwald make O'Reilly blow a gasket in an interview.
 
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