OK there drama queen. Obamacare is nothing like the Constitution, that's wrong for so many reasons.
Obamacare was found to be Constitutional. A majority, somewhere, though they can't be named individually, nor are they liable for actions undertaken at their supposed behest, agreed to it. And with that, it is the law.
Are you aware of the Three/Fifth's Clause? The Fugitive Slave Clause?
What is like the Constitution? They ignore the most of it and dance around the rest. Not to mention it was flawed since its inception. If you look into the matter more deeply and with an unbiased eye, I can assure you that you will draw the same conclusion.
As for you not wanting the Constitution, see my reply to your friend above.
Most aren't against the Constitution, but be aware that you are obligated to pay for past debts. We are talking over a hundred thousand dollars per working American. That is before the further sinking of another generation with unpayable, soon to be collapsing, debt.
Who does the money go to, I wonder?
Yes, I will use force on you to make you pay for services you receive, I receive no services from Obamacare so your argument is just plain stupid.
I can appreciate how frankly you speak. Some here do agree with you but they side step and avoid coming right out and stating it as bluntly as you have. I often inform them that the same will be done to them. That is, they'll, as well as you or I will be forced to pay for things that we do not want or need simply through majority decree. They'll use, or rather advocate their agents to use, force all the same.
And the SCOTUS will approve of it. If not now then in due time. Words are bastardized and the Framer's original intent ignored or explained away as old fashioned or antique.
Look, I understand, I was 16 once full of angst, but you'll grow out of it
You do your arguments no favors with this sort of rhetoric. Especially here, where most are well read and educated.
[....] and realize living in society will never be perfect for anyone, there are always tradeoffs, you don't like it, I'll once again say, go make your own country but you are living fantasy world if you think anarchism will ever see the light of day,
And as much, true freedom will never see the light of day. I'll refrain from Biblical prophecy and simply remind all of the facts. One specific fact, Iraq is poisoned for eternity. The two-headed babies and anancephalic horrors, you'd be wise not to state what will not see the light of day. After all, it is your global entrenched plunderers who were the culprit when uranium dust clouds poisoned a people's offspring.
[...] conservatives will never agree to getting rid of the military,
They are often not conservative. And the people you are speaking of are dying off.
[...] and the liberals will slam the door in your face the moment you mention the word "privatize",
Their collectivism is as tyrannous as any becomes. I wonder what your solution is, considering that you are stuck on the same sailed boat. (that is, absent a total collapse and economic calamity, this is not going to change.. After all, "conservatives will never agree to getting rid of the military" and, "liberals will slam the door in your face the moment you mention the word 'privatize'")
[....] so I will wish you much luck in beating your head against the wall
As I do to you.
[...] with your absurd philosophy.
It is not absurd to feel that people do not need a master. Perhaps people are wired differently, though.
Oh, as for foreign invaders, hmmm, I don't know, why did the Europeans invade America? Why didn't the Cherokee and Lakota stop them?
Because they didn't have high capacity magazines.
The Soviets invaded, or excuse me, committed "police actions" all around the world at the height of their power, why would anyone trade with us when we have no Army and they could just take it by force?
The pot shots from the mountains, trees, slopes, etc. would be devastating to any army. Let them try.
Have you read
War is a Racket by Smedley Butler? How much fuel do you figure it would take for Russia to launch an invasion here of any meaningful significance?
But then again, who is "us", who will be fighting this war of yours?
First, private defense, militias and the sort are not advocated against. A standing army is.
"Us" would be everyone who wanted to, or had an interest in, defending their property and this land.
You want no borders, no countries, no govt, no military.
The Framers were for open borders and no standing army. They understood both led to peace and prosperity.
As to no government, there is always governance. Voluntary would be the key aspect necessary for righteousness and freedom. Hey, if it's such a good thing, you won't have a problem getting people to voluntarily pay for it, right?
It's uncanny how it is the best thing since sliced bread, yet everyone must be forcibly stolen from to fund it.
Likewise, apparently you didn't read, I didn't say guerrilla warfare couldn't work, I was very clear that it would be extremely difficult and cost millions of lives, the Afghans may "win" but at a terrible price, sorry, but I don't think you would want to live in the kind of conditions found in Afghanistan.
It didn't cost the Afghans millions of lives. Sure, many were made refugees and many did die, but 'millions' dead is a blatant exaggeration.
