Rand Paul Just Outed Himself

[angelatc]

Ron bashing and Rand bashing should have been treated equally and have not been so far.

Repeated, unrepentant Ron bashing during the Ron Paul days was punishable with a ban. Repeated, unrepentant Rand bashing in the Rand Paul days is tolerated and ignored.

Why is Speciallyblend still on here? All he says is "gop bs fence-sitting rand pander to the right wing lost colorado marijuana voter block as a delegate". Why is fisharmor still here? Notice how he only seems to turn up to hate when there's a forum drama over something Rand said.

The owners made it pretty clear that the bashing wouldn't be allowed during the election season. This isn't that season yet. But that's why I think a third site would be better. Too much baggage here.

 

[klamath]

The owners made it pretty clear that the bashing wouldn't be allowed during the election season. This isn't that season yet. But that's why I think a third site would be better. Too much baggage here.

Actually Bryan made it pretty clear that it wasn't allowed on the Rand forum however they have no respect for him and he doesn't have the time to police it.

 

[donnay]

He also owns Rand Paul Forums - it forwards to the subforum.

Correct, and Rand Paul is a subforum, not the entire forum. It was started because people were drawn to Ron Paul.

 

[Anti Federalist]

He also owns Rand Paul Forums - it forwards to the subforum.

As was just mentioned to me in a PM, it makes perfect business sense to split the sites, when and if Rand commits 100% to a 2016 run.

Problem solved AFAIC.

 

[donnay]

The owners made it pretty clear that the bashing wouldn't be allowed during the election season. This isn't that season yet. But that's why I think a third site would be better. Too much baggage here.

What's stopping you from starting your own, Rand Paul/Scientific Forum? I say tear your ass--go for the gusto you only live once.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Rand must not be questioned, his decision is the right one. He has access to intelligence that we do not have. He is our leader. He is the leader of the liberty movement. We cannot have weakness within our ranks. Questioning Rand leads to weakness and that leads to defeat.

One night we need to have a purge on RPF. Round up all the dissenters and ban them, all at once so they can't team up and whine. Only then we can win the favor of the Republicans we need to win the nomination.

You never disappoint.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Wish she was back...

Yeah, me too. She was on top of the Ron Paul updates. Seems like we don't get to hear much from Ron as much since he's become a kind of intellectual property. I wish that Ron actually did understand The Internet, how it works, and, of course, the business end of it. The fact that he doesn't is a bit disheartening to me. Reminds me of back in the day when business associates were making millions off of rock stars and then when they were done with them they were left high and dry while their managers made a name for themselves. But whatever.

 

[CCTelander]

You never disappoint.

That's what pandering to the "base" for the sake of political gains will get you.

 

[cajuncocoa]

A lot of the naysayers have been here since 2007. I can't imagine making a case to throw them overboard since they're not the group that's changing. They've always been the purists, and we've known all along that a big number of them won't rabidly anybody except Ron.

This IS Ron Paul forums after all. (And before the Rand fanbois jump in to alert me that http://randpaulforum leads directly to Rand's subforum...yes, I know. But that didn't exist when I first signed up).

I would absolutely like to see another site pop up that is moderated in much the same way Mitt Romney Central was run though. I want a site where the more mainstream voters can come hang out without getting subjected to the OMG squad.

I want a support site, not a debate site.

When are you going to start one? I promise not to join.

 

[angelatc]

Correct, and Rand Paul is a subforum, not the entire forum. It was started because people were drawn to Ron Paul.

Rand Paul Forums was not started because people were drawn to Ron Paul. The guidelines for that forum clearly state that it is to support Rand Paul. But the community here won't ever get past the hand wringing libertarian concern-trolling.

Unless Bryan can ban people from certain forums, the only way to get rid of the people who consider it their solemn duty to point out every minute thing they perceive Rand is doing that conflicts with how they believe Ron would have campaigned is to leave them behind. The farther, the better.

 

[phill4paul]

One HUGE point here is that "we" don't have a site. We are hanging out on another site, and it is kind of rude to demand that our host revamp the membership and the mission in order to placate us.

Yeah, I'd go for a third site.

Third? OK. Anyway my belief is that you will get your wish. Bryan would be a fool not to use the direct for randpaulforums.com to not create a 2016 site. I think he is just waiting to see where the winds blow. In the meantime asking us for input to create a better site in general.

 

[donnay]

Rand Paul Forums was not started because people were drawn to Ron Paul. The guidelines for that forum clearly state that it is to support Rand Paul. But the community here won't ever get past the hand wringing libertarian concern-trolling.

Unless Bryan can ban people from certain forums, the only way to get rid of the people who consider it their solemn duty to point out every minute thing they perceive Rand is doing that conflicts with how they believe Ron would have campaigned is to leave them behind. The farther, the better.

Clarification: The RON PAUL FORUM was started because people were drawn to RON PAUL.

 

[cajuncocoa]

When Sailingaway was on here, any criticism of Ron would result in a warning. People who spent more time criticizing Ron than praising him ("haters") were banned. She probably went a bit too far, but since the focus on here switched to Rand, the staff have been far more permissive towards the Rand critics than they were to the Ron critics. Now this site is going too far in the other direction. Ironically, some of the most vehement defenders of Ron are now the harshest critics of Rand.

Even though I will support Rand with my vote, I didn't sign up for a Rand Paul Forum; I signed up for Ron's. I had no reason to criticize Ron...he reflected my views in words and actions more than 95% of the time. Rand says things that make me nervous about who he really is. When the decision is made that there can be absolutely zero criticism of Rand Paul not only in his subforum but across the entire board, I will respect that directive when Bryan says so.

Wish she was back...

So do I.

 

[KingNothing]

Our "leaders?" Who's "values?"

The values that say "don't invade other countries" are pretty ubiquitous, I would say. If Crimea wanted to be part of Russia, fine. But it could have done so without Russia rigging a vote, and sending troops onto the peninsula.

And "leaders" was a poor choice of words. What if I had said "politicians," -- would you interpret my point differently?

 

[fr33]

 

[alucard13mm]

It is okay. We will take our chances with president jeb bush or president hillary clinton.

 

[pcosmar]

Rand Paul Forums was not started because people were drawn to Ron Paul. The guidelines for that forum clearly state that it is to support Rand Paul. But the community here won't ever get past the hand wringing libertarian concern-trolling.

Woah,, get your High Horse under control.

I was supportive when Rand first ran in Kentucky.. And I have been hopeful for him as a Liberty Candidate,

I have been disappointed several times now. I have not been "bashing".
But is he wants respect or support,, he needs to earn mine.

This is not the way to do it. This shit is losing my respect. and that saddens me.

 

[devil21]

Ron bashing and Rand bashing should have been treated equally and have not been so far.

Repeated, unrepentant Ron bashing during the Ron Paul days was punishable with a ban. Repeated, unrepentant Rand bashing in the Rand Paul days is tolerated and ignored.

Why is Speciallyblend still on here? All he says is "gop bs fence-sitting rand pander to the right wing lost colorado marijuana voter block as a delegate". Why is fisharmor still here? Notice how he only seems to turn up to hate when there's a forum drama over something Rand said.

Pardon me but how does someone with an Oct 2012 join date know about Ron bashing and what was or was not tolerated during "Ron Paul days"?

Answer:
I hope I'm not the only one that's figured out that your handle is just one of your many sock puppets on RPF, working to divide, conquer and push warmongers on behalf of zionist interests.

If anyone needs to be banned, it's you and the rest of your sock puppets here (again). The signal to noise ratio would go WAY up.

http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-7015a/2924

http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2012/10/confessions-of-ex-shill-theyre-real.html

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ntelligence-agency-guide-to-internet-shilling

 

[cajuncocoa]

Pardon me but how does someone with an Oct 2012 join date know about Ron bashing and what was or was not tolerated during "Ron Paul days"?

Answer:
I hope I'm not the only one that's figured out that your handle is just one of your many sock puppets on RPF, working to divide, conquer and push warmongers on behalf of zionist interests.

If anyone needs to be banned, it's you and the rest of your sock puppets here (again). The signal to noise ratio would go WAY up.

http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-7015a/2924

http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2012/10/confessions-of-ex-shill-theyre-real.html

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ntelligence-agency-guide-to-internet-shilling

no you're not the only one.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Sen. Rand Paul: U.S. Must Take Strong Action Against Putin’s Aggression

Honestly i am not surprised and you know what else? After Rand has taken this side he will no longer care or talk about the Christians being attacked in the middle east he will be another McCain.

This is what happens when you travel to Israel. You Quickly change sides.