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^This! A scumbag like Beck has no right to criticize Rand for not being Ron after spending all this time attacking Ron for being Ron.
Rand Paul just got hammered on Glenn Beck (12/16/14)
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^This! A scumbag like Beck has no right to criticize Rand for not being Ron after spending all this time attacking Ron for being Ron.
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Thanks! It always good to actually hear it.
As I suspected, it's Beck's neoconservative plant (Pat?) who spews most of the negative stuff about Rand. Beck lets Pat do the dirty work, and Pat has probably always been the initiator and source of the anti-Paul bias. Beck does join in the negativity, but it's not like the hatred from Pat. Beck is more of the "Rand's playing the game and I don't like that" type.
And what was left out in the OP was that they came right out and said that Rubio is their favorite. The biggest and most open neoconservative in the race (potentially) is who they support.
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It's amusing that the consensus here seems to be that that 538 chart is a good thing for Rand Paul. It vividly and forcefully makes Beck's point - "I don't know who he is." For someone with a reputation as an equivocating, fence-straddling opportunist who will say anything he thinks his audience of the moment wants to hear, that chart is a smoking M60. Yet, you folks want to tout it rather than locking it away with crazy uncles Jack, Adam, Vermin et al.
SMH. Paul should leave aside playing the game and strive for a Reagan-McCain-Rubio-Bachmann-Romney type spread. Too bad recent GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul isn't on the chart.
- aside - While some of you may see the sense in what I just said, none of you are going to like what's next. That chart also paints Rand Paul as an extremist who has exactly zero chance of ever getting anything done beyond talk. To refute this (a point that his opponents will be happily making throughout 2015 and the first week of January 2016 after which Paul's candidacy will slip into the educational--delegate-strategery--defense-fund-raising phase), by all means regale me with a breakdown of Rand's legislative achievements.
SMH. Paul should leave aside playing the game and strive for a Reagan-McCain-Rubio-Bachmann-Romney type spread. Too bad recent GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul isn't on the chart.
- aside - While some of you may see the sense in what I just said, none of you are going to like what's next. That chart also paints Rand Paul as an extremist who has exactly zero chance of ever getting anything done beyond talk. To refute this (a point that his opponents will be happily making throughout 2015 and the first week of January 2016 after which Paul's candidacy will slip into the educational--delegate-strategery--defense-fund-raising phase), by all means regale me with a breakdown of Rand's legislative achievements.
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Fixed it for them
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Good God, they must really be scared of Rand Paul.
I didn't expect Beckstabbing season to start for another year and a half. At the very least, I figured we'd have another year of stroking and honey before we got Beck's knife in our backs.
Too late. He's already gone Beck again.
But I'm sure he'll come around one more time, before he goes Beck in time for primary season.
I didn't expect Beckstabbing season to start for another year and a half. At the very least, I figured we'd have another year of stroking and honey before we got Beck's knife in our backs.
Too late. He's already gone Beck again.
But I'm sure he'll come around one more time, before he goes Beck in time for primary season.
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pfff...whatev...if anyone else but Rand gets nominated, Hillary will be your next prez....
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Judge a politician by his actions but by his rhetoric. We see Elizabeth Warren talking a big anti wall street game yet supporting just about every big pro wall street bill. Everyone knows actions speak way louder than words especially when it comes to politics. There is no excuse for Beck to be confused by it.
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On the contrary it shows he is the most conservative guy in the race.
I don't think Rand will stay in as long as Ron did if he does not win either Iowa or New Hampshire. I could be wrong, but I don't see it.
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It depends on who sees it... if it is the tea party / conservative base, then it is a good thing. Having that in the general election or showing it to more moderate Republicans would of course be a bad thing. Good point though.
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Scared enough to get us talking about people who are scared of him lol.
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That, my dear, depends upon just how ready the voters are to not only sweep the flotsam out of the White House, but the other end of Pennsylvania Ave. as well.
And since we have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Congress isn't capable of micromanaging its own affairs, much less all of our affairs, and there's a whole other year for us (and Obamabola) to use in driving that point home...
Beck is, as usual, quoting a lot of people here. There was no end of noise around here about that very thing, at least until his legislative accomplishments did (whether the noisy liberals stopped blabbing their hate long enough to notice or not) come through. Of course, they're largely along the lines of his father's so far--the accomplishment of ignoring the lobbyists Clinton and Warren and Biden and the gang are so fond of and refusing to help them implement their agendas. But if we get a few more Massies and Amashes in, or even a few more less perfect definite improvements like Bridenstine and Wyden, that will all change in the blink of an eye.
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I don't necessarily think it's what Beck is saying about Rand, it's the inconsistency of his support and his general attentionwhoring. And while many people might agree with what Beck is saying, their support for other candidates (that are much worse than Rand) over him is baffling. I remember during a previous discussion about Rand, how one of them was so hesitant to ask if he couldn't pick the Libertarian candidate if he could. Even though Rand has been much more libertarian than most candidates that party been running for years.
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Oh, it's easy to see how that happens. The Beckstabbers lead them astray.
Just as long as they keep us divided and conquered, they win. And just as long as they keep the dumber end of the GOP convinced that anything that makes any liberal even marginally happy is a very bad thing...
After all, no one else has the solution to the severe problem of creeping, crawling centralization, corporatism and tyranny. Which is why the liberals keep showing up here, dazed and confused, time after time.
Eventually we can make them see the problem with their notion that tyranny is the answer, we just need the right tyrant. Which is, of course, that CNN and msnbc will never even mention a benevolent person's name, except perhaps to tell lies about that person (if you don't believe me, plug 'Kucinich' into your search engine) and they couldn't tell a kind person from a corrupt baby bomber on a dare (if you don't believe me...)
Or, if they're not still sane enough to see it, we'll make everyone else see it.
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You're worried he'd stay in? Rand has three sons, so I'm sure one of them would be willing to publicly endorse someone else if he doesn't bow out.
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honey, honey, POISON!
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I never could stand listening to him.