Rand Paul introduces national ID card amendment

[jct74]

Sen. Paul Introduces National ID Card Amendment

Jun 20, 2013

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Sen. Rand Paul today announced the introduction of the Protect Our Privacy Act as amendment to the Senate's Immigration Reform Bill. This amendment would prohibit the issuance of a national identification card system. In the wake of the IRS scandal and NSA wiretapping revelations, Sen. Paul believes that his amendment is necessary to protect the privacy of all citizens.

"A National ID card violates our right to privacy by helping to consolidate data and facilitate the government in the tracking of individuals. President Ronald Reagan opposed this idea, as did President Bill Clinton. They believed, as I do, that American citizens should not be forced to carry around a National Identification Card as a condition of citizenship, because the card offends any reasonable basic concept of freedom. While identifying and documenting immigrants is necessary for proper reform, implementing a mandatory identification registry for all citizens is not," Sen. Paul said.

The Protect Our Privacy Act does the following:

· Prohibits the Department of Homeland Security from interpreting the immigration reform bill to permit a national identification card or system;

· Prohibits the Federal or State government from requiring photographs or biometric information without probable cause;

· Prevents the provision in the bill titled "Photo Tool" from allowing the government to force all citizens to provide a photo;

· Prohibits a "biometric social security card" for citizens; and,

· Forbids a "de facto national registry of citizens."​

Click HERE to read the amendment in its entirety.

http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=868

 

[asurfaholic]

Good. Now we can make a pretty definitive list of traitors.

 

[kathy88]

Good. Now we can make a pretty definitive list of traitors.

Work in progress.

 

[anaconda]

This is a blast having Rand in the U.S Senate.

 

[anaconda]

The old "Your papers, please" Nazi reference is always a good one on this issue.

 

[ObiRandKenobi]

Great job.

 

[anaconda]

I was surprised to hear, near the end of this video, that even the establishment candidates claimed that the ID card was to be only for foreigners entering the U.S. Not for U.S. citizens.

 

[tennman]

Sweet, way to go Rand!

 

[AlexAmore]

Come at me bro!

 

[anaconda]

Rand haters don't be shy. Is this yet another disinfo, "right cover" tactic by Rand to obfuscate his actual necon, sell out, true self?

 

[dskalkowski]

Rand haters don't be shy. Is this yet another disinfo, "right cover" tactic by Rand to obfuscate his actual necon, sell out, true self?

Haha, I love it. I'm waiting to hear the hate roll in.

 

[fisharmor]

Rand haters don't be shy. Is this yet another disinfo, "right cover" tactic by Rand to obfuscate his actual necon, sell out, true self?

I don't know how many times we have to say that we don't hate Rand. And I don't know how many times I have to point out that the issue is not that he's secretly a neocon: the issue is how the fuck are we supposed to know, when he keeps contradicting himself?

Let me ask you a simple question: Are you comfortable with the fact that he's clearly drawn a distinction between citizens and noncitizens, and clearly insinuated that noncitizens do not enjoy the same rights as citizens?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Good to hear.

So everyone knows though, there already has to be a national registry. If I go out of state and get carded, they swipe my ID same as any other state. It acts the same as if I am in the state it was registered. That being, sometimes going through just fine and sometimes beeping to say it is expired. The exact same thing happens no matter what state I use it in. Another thing people should think about is, lose your license in one state and try to get one in another. It's not going to happen. The DMV/BMV whatever you want to call them are all linked.

I fail to see the difference in that and a national ID card. Seems to me we have had a national registry since it became computerized. Anyone have any comments on this?

 

[mwkaufman]

Good to hear.

So everyone knows though, there already has to be a national registry. If I go out of state and get carded, they swipe my ID same as any other state. It acts the same as if I am in the state it was registered. That being, sometimes going through just fine and sometimes beeping to say it is expired. The exact same thing happens no matter what state I use it in. Another thing people should think about is, lose your license in one state and try to get one in another. It's not going to happen. The DMV/BMV whatever you want to call them are all linked.

I fail to see the difference in that and a national ID card. Seems to me we have had a national registry since it became computerized. Anyone have any comments on this?

Your use of the card is voluntary.

 

[Carlybee]

Good for him...totally against it and especially biometrics...probably won't pass though because someone in the biometrics lobby is probably wining and dining as we speak.

 

[fisharmor]

I fail to see the difference in that and a national ID card. Seems to me we have had a national registry since it became computerized. Anyone have any comments on this?

If you're not familiar with it, you should look into the Uniform Commercial Code. If you've ever taken a course in business law you should have been exposed to it already.

The UCC is not code itself: it's a set of standards that are suggested for states to implement individually. That is why simple contract disputes across state borders are able to be resolved, and how people are able to write a check for groceries in a state they don't live in.

I don't have an inherent problem with the idea of states implementing a standard interface (other than the fact that it assumes the existence of states to begin with). What I have a problem with is when they do it in the name of tyranny.

 

[mrsat_98]

I don't know how many times we have to say that we don't hate Rand. And I don't know how many times I have to point out that the issue is not that he's secretly a neocon: the issue is how the fuck are we supposed to know, when he keeps contradicting himself?

Let me ask you a simple question: Are you comfortable with the fact that he's clearly drawn a distinction between citizens and noncitizens, and clearly insinuated that noncitizens do not enjoy the same rights as citizens?

So non citizens are supposed to be able to vote ?

http://www.hevanet.com/kort/CITIZEN1.HTM there has been a citizen non citizen issue for years.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Your use of the card is voluntary.

That has got to be the dumbest statement I've ever read here by far.

Holy hell that hurt my brain.

I'm not usually so critical but man, wtf are you talking about?

You don't need an ID to work in your state? To set up a bank account? To cash a check? Having an ID is about as voluntary as having a SS number.

 

[cindy25]

great start, but there should be a provision prohibiting state and local governments from asking for SSN.