Rand Paul: ‘I Think Civil Asset Forfeiture Is a Terrible Idea Until You’ve Convicted Someone

[Feeding the Abscess]

One step at a time worked for the Republicans (after Bush many thought the Republican party was done, now they are at their strongest point in maybe a century), that method does require focus and patience. The problem with libertarians is that they love to attack their own instead of supporting them. That is why there is never any progress.


Simple question libertarians should ask themselves. Would this be better than or improve what we have today? If the answer is yes then support it, if the answer is no then don't.

The problem with libertarians as it pertains to politics is, even including the 'socially liberal, fiscally conservative' libertarians, we're outnumbered 100 to 1.

 

[Rudeman]

The reason he liberty movement is dead and buried is because of you who went balls-on-chin into the political machine and ignored the reality around you.

We have a man in power who is threatening to destroy the careers of state officials who disagree with him, making regular claims that the police state isn't powerful enough, is totally ok with killing 8 year olds, and is ramping the drug war up farther than it has been since the 80s.

But that's all ok because the Republican party is healthy? Are you people $#@!ing insane?

If anyone is insane it appears to be you. Who knew something so blase could trigger a person like this.

 

[Rudeman]

The problem with libertarians as it pertains to politics is, even including the 'socially liberal, fiscally conservative' libertarians, we're outnumbered 100 to 1.

Maybe but it doesn't help that to be a libertarian you have to go through a purity test and anything not in lockstep with libertarian ideologue is perceived as traitorous. My point is there are a lot of people who consider themselves to be libertarian or libertarian leaning, now they may be viewed as "faux" libertarians but it's better than nothing. Beggars can't be choosers. If a person is truly socially liberal but not fiscally conservative (or vice versa) and still considers themselves a libertarian why not embrace that? I admit I'm not perfect when it comes to this (opposition to Gary Johnson)

Maybe I'm wrong but it's better than doing the same thing over and over.

 

[Rudeman]

This doesn't work with the numbers libertarians have. Now check Al Sharpton.

It won't work if we continue to put libertarians through a purity test. If it isn't perfect then it's awful mentality is so absurd to me. If libertarians were more willing to embrace people and ideas that were libertarian leaning, as a whole it would improve things. The mistake a lot of people (including Rand) made was assuming the liberty movement = libertarians or liberty minded people. That wasn't the case but it can show how powerful a movement can be if we include non-libertarians to push libertarian ideas.

 

[Aratus]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...il-asset-forfeiture-terrible-idea-until-youve

I stand with RAND!!!