Rand Paul Explains Why He Would Not Pardon Edward Snowden

[Anti Federalist]

He took the same position that Snowden takes. He agrees with Snowden on this. Snowden himself has said that he wouldn't have a problem with serving a short prison sentence. How is that not good enough?

Yeah, well, Snowden's a fucking loon then too...

 

[Anti Federalist]

Well, would it be better for the cause of liberty if Marco Rubio won the GOP nomination?

There is no fucking "cause of liberty"... Bernie Sanders is drawing tens of thousands of people advocating outright communism.

There is only a remnant, and we'll all be dead, soon enough.

 

[Jeremy]

There is no fucking "cause of liberty"... Bernie Sanders is drawing tens of thousands of people advocating outright communism.

There is only a remnant, and we'll all be dead, soon enough.

Man, you weren't kidding when you said you were having a bad day! Hang in there!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Voted one star, for Rand's comments.

 

[brandon]

Interesting how an article that is just simply quoting policy statements made on Friday is moved to the "spin" forum.

 

[DisneyFan]

I liked Rand's response.

 

[EBounding]

It is tough to find room to find fault here when Randal is saying the exact same thing as Snowden.

I also don't see what's wrong with his response.

Maybe part of the reason Snowden said he would agree to prison-time was to give Rand an out? Who knows. But what's clear to me is we have we have one group of people who want to torture/execute Snowden. Then we have Rand who wants Snowden to serve sensible and negotiated sentence.

I think this is a no-brainer.

 

[specsaregood]

I also don't see what's wrong with his response.

Maybe part of the reason Snowden said he would agree to prison-time was to give Rand an out? Who knows. But what's clear to me is we have we have one group of people who want to torture/execute Snowden. Then we have Rand who wants Snowden to serve sensible and negotiated sentence.

I think this is a no-brainer.

Randal has also said many times that Snowden should only do time if clapper does as well.

 

[Thor]

Interesting how a paper that us just simply quoting policy statements made on Friday is moved to the "spin" forum.

Agreed. It is peculiar that something that is a fact (Rand made those comments), and was published by Ben Swann's Truth in Media (a site that most of us usually find to be helpful in most issues) is moved to "spin." If anything might look unfavorably upon Rand or cause divisive comments, it is spin, chaff or flak. LOL.

Maybe part of the reason Snowden said he would agree to prison-time was to give Rand an out? Who knows. But what's clear to me is we have we have one group of people who want to torture/execute Snowden. Then we have Rand who wants Snowden to serve sensible and negotiated sentence.

And we have another group who thinks Snowden should be given a hero's welcome and the thought any "sentence" is inexcusable.

 

[acptulsa]

Surprised this has not been posted yet...[/video]

It has been. More than once. Rand has held this position for at least a year.

within this context, yes.

lets consider. "But the people who are going nuts, which includes half of the people in our party, wanting to execute him, shoot him, chop his head off, all of these crazy stuff"

and then we have this.

"Carly Fiorina described Snowden as “terribly destructive,” Ben Carson said that Snowden “did our nation a tremendous amount of damage” and should be punished, and Donald Trump said that Snowden is a “traitor” and should be killed."

as it just so happens, these people are leading. in the "polls" by a wide margin. (in fact they ARE the top leaders)

I do not think that Rand has thrown us under the bus.
he is simply swimming in a moral cesspool.

This. But this consideration isn't just electoral. There's also the distinct possibility that several of the crazy but patriotic G. Gordon Liddy types out there would hunt the man down and kill him, if he were on these shores. Does anyone here really think that there are no people crazy enough to do that?

I agree with Rand and Snowden himself. He should serve a slap on the wrist sentence to preserve the rule of law. Lawbreaker notwithstanding, Edward Snowden is an American hero and patriot.

Worked for John W. Dean III. The Watergate puzzle might never have been unraveled so completely if it were not for him. He was, in his own way, as much of a hero as Snowden. Really, the only difference was that Snowden broke the law by exposing the truth, while in exposing the truth Dean exposed his own prior crimes. If he hadn't gotten a slap on the wrist, he could easily have been killed, too--and not by Nixon hatchet men, either, but by hard asses who considered themselves patriots. But a court trial and a prison sentence tends to defuse a lynch mob. Their anger satisfied, they go home and usually don't even notice when the guy they hated so much a few months earlier gets out after serving five percent of his sentence.

Assuming Snowden even wants to come home, a few months in jail could easily save his life. It really could. That's one benefit, Clapper in jail for not months but years is another. I personally think this is a pretty adult position by Rand Paul.

 

[EBounding]

And we have another group who thinks Snowden should be given a hero's welcome and the thought any "sentence" is inexcusable.

Are they candidates for president?

 

[Thor]

Are they candidates for president?

Hence the lesser of all the evils comment....

Not great, but good enough, kinda...

 

[Ronin Truth]

Edward Snowden Explains Why He Would Not Vote For Rand Paul.

[made up another one.]

 

[acptulsa]

Hence the lesser of all the evils comment....

Not great, but good enough, kinda...

Wanting to protect Snowden by enabling him to say, 'I had my trial and did my time, leave me alone,' is not evil. Wanting to put Clapper in jail for a much longer period of time is not evil. So, where is this evil you perceive?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Blimp

 

[PierzStyx]

Wanting to protect Snowden by enabling him to say, 'I had my trial and did my time, leave me alone,' is not evil. Wanting to put Clapper in jail for a much longer period of time is not evil. So, where is this evil you perceive?

Why should he have a trial or do time for doing nothing wrong? That is the problem.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why should he have a trial or do time for doing nothing wrong? That is the problem.

This.

How about throwing the people in jail that are violating the bill of rights?

 

[CCTelander]

This.

How about throwing the people in jail that are violating the bill of rights?

Riiiiiggghhht.