Rand Paul dismisses Ann Coulter on immigration

[abacabb]

Michael Medved, is that you?

I'd agree with the poster's sentiment, Rand has obviously avoided appealing to our more extreme issues. I think the Civil Rights Act thing led to a conscious decision to play politics.

 

[abacabb]

Remember, many of the white Europeans that immigrated here in the early 1900s and even post-WW2 were New Deal Democrats, then most of them moved right.

To be fair, the right is where the left used to be. They didn't move anywhere.

This is the part that is the most demented. And you hear it everyday, "They do the jobs that 'regular' people wouldn't (in reality: used to) do!" People who support immigration who aren't in it to help their families live a better life, usually think that immigrants exist to make their lives easier and are happy slaving away. Whether the underclass is slaving away or is on welfare being pissed that they're broke, leaving a growing underclass stewing, who probably has little in common with those who happily control them never ends well.

True. Bringing in a foreign race, isolating them to segregated communities where everyone speaks their own language, there's ton of crime and crappy schools, they're going to be pissed. Regular people aren't going to realize whether this is the result of moronic policy or not...they're just going to blame the people who happen to have more than them. It's human nature.

 

[RonPaulMall]

From what I know, the vast majority of Mexican nationals who come to this country illegally do so in order to work and provide for their families, not because they want to be lazy and gobble up free entitlements. Many of them succeed at the American dream and become self sufficient. Many of them don't, but that doesn't mean we should characterize them all as leaches. It's simply not accurate. And doing so can only hurt the GOP long term, because the longer the rhetoric creates a feeling of being disrespected with Hispanics, the longer that voting block will be mostly Democratic party by default.

Again, I just think you are playing in to the left wing staw man. It isn't about "hating" Mexicans or thinking they are "lazy". People who are willing to make a dangerous border crossing and live without their family to wash dishes and pick tomatoes are the opposite of lazy. The question is whether we want an immigration policy that encourages tens of millions of dishwashers and tomato pickers to become citizens. A system that gives preference to the tomato picker over the engineer from China or the the scientist from Germany. That is insane. But that is exactly what the Dems are trying to ram through.

And lets be adults here. In the past half century, Southern California has gone from the best place in America to live to one of the worst. That transformation has occurred largely because of waves of illegal and legal immigration from Mexico. The few livable communities are the ones where Mexicans (and the white middle class along with them) have been priced out of the market. The net effect is a double whammy for the Democrats. They get tens of millions of loyal new voters, plus those new voters make the region unsuitable for the voting block (white families) that votes with them the least. Studies have shown that years married is the strongest correlative factor as to whether a white person votes Republican or not. In areas of rampant Mexicanization, like Southern California, marriage and childbirth have to be deferred many years so that the couple can build up enough savings to move in to one of the few areas where it is possible to raise children. These unmarried, childless whites are the most likely subgroup of the white population to vote Democratic. The Democrats are not stupid. They understand all this. This is the reason they are promoting the otherwise senseless "Third-World First" immigration policy. Republicans need to understand it too. If they don't, as Ann Coutler points out, they are just committing political suicide.

 

[Dary]

Give 'em all amnesty. While they are at it, give it to the rest of us too.