Rand Paul Digital: Apps/MicroSites for Next-Gen Grassroots

Foreigner said:
I don't really wanna go down that road, but...

What if the target isn't met? Do you have a backup plan?

I'd be willing to give at least 100$ in an regular donation - and maybe more later for you and your team to work on these projects part time. (or maybe prioritize to do only the most critical parts) I see some hope in that the number of donations have almost doubled in a couple of days, but it's still a long way in dollars to reach the target.

So... everybody, just pledge - more than you normally would think responsible. I know, it might seem a foolhardy thing to do, but: (1) If the target amount isn't reached, nobody gets charged - so no real loss at all. (2) If the target amount is met - we all just did something amazing for the liberty movement - and for freedom and liberty in the most important, and trendsetting country on earth.

I'll be thinking long and hard tomorrow on how much I can afford. I Hope this inspires some others as well! ;)
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Thanks for sentiments here. Looking at the numbers I concur with the others that it's not realistic to believe that the goal will be reached by Thursday. I would still encourage those that were planning to pledge as new backers to go ahead and do so as a sign of support for the project, even if funds are never transferred.

There is a backup plan we are currently considering, will have more information for you in a few days.
 
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daviddee said:
The logo needs to be changed.
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Digital has been defunct, out of business for going on almost 20 years, we were aware of the potential conflict with the logo and did look into it. Appreciate your thoughts here, and the possible confusion, will pass it along. Thanks.

 
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So everyone is aware we have a backup plan that is currently being considered, will have more in a few days.

We are also asking those that have been involved thus far and especially those that pledged for their thoughts on how the effort might have been done differently. We have some ideas on these, but would be interested in your thoughts as well. Feel free to PM, email me or reply here.

Thank you.
 
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orenbus said:
So everyone is aware we have a backup plan that is currently being considered, will have more in a few days.

We are also asking those that have been involved thus far and especially those that pledged for their thoughts on how the effort might have been done differently. We have some ideas on these, but would be interested in your thoughts as well. Feel free to PM, email me or reply here.

Thank you.
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IMO, the problem is the marketing, not the content. The project itself looks impressive. It feels to me like the well is untapped, not dried up. Was this project being disseminated to liberty groups on college campuses?
 
orenbus said:
So everyone is aware we have a backup plan that is currently being considered, will have more in a few days.

We are also asking those that have been involved thus far and especially those that pledged for their thoughts on how the effort might have been done differently. We have some ideas on these, but would be interested in your thoughts as well. Feel free to PM, email me or reply here.

Thank you.
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It seems to me that you set the deadline really short. 25k is a lot of money in such a short time, and you can't expect anything Rand related to just go viral by itself at this point in the cycle, because half of the liberty movement gave up on politics to become anarchists and anti-rand bots. Projects like this will help change that and organize us, but we are really too disorganized at this point to do massive viral anything in a short time.
 
Only 40 donors, the apathy is palpable, so sad to see.
What you are seeing is just how burned people feel from 2012.
Until Rand actually gets the nomination I think people will hold on to their cash.
That's what happens when the GOP screwed over and humiliated people at the GOP convention, people are like what's the point.
 
The Rebel Poet said:
It seems to me that you set the deadline really short. 25k is a lot of money in such a short time, and you can't expect anything Rand related to just go viral by itself at this point in the cycle, because half of the liberty movement gave up on politics to become anarchists and anti-rand bots. Projects like this will help change that and organize us, but we are really too disorganized at this point to do massive viral anything in a short time.
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Yea, I'll second that.

It may have been a bit over-ambitious Jack.

That's a shame, I wish we had more people willing to get in on it, but we don't - at this point.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned.

When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs noting to be a patriot."

...One must work with the material at hand.

So, either scale back the project, wait, or find a way to broaden the appeal (which probably means watering down the message).
 
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The Rebel Poet said:
It seems to me that you set the deadline really short. 25k is a lot of money in such a short time, and you can't expect anything Rand related to just go viral by itself at this point in the cycle, because half of the liberty movement gave up on politics to become anarchists and anti-rand bots. Projects like this will help change that and organize us, but we are really too disorganized at this point to do massive viral anything in a short time.
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Well, it is what it is. That's what was needed to accomplish the task. I understand the apathy here, Rand isn't Ron. But really, What other option is there? And if Ron was running again he would lose again. We can't live by the all or nothing credo when the other side is perfectly willing to patiently wait for one baby step at a time. And they always get it.

So Rand moderates his words and actions enough not to freak out boobus and the liberty movement jumps off the train. What the hell is he supposed to do? Imagine Rand Paul with 8 years on the 'bully pulpit'.
 
Bryan said:
Agreed. Of the handful of grassroots leaders I've talked with from around the country, they are all reporting very low engagement... Beyond a 20 year low. Even tea party groups have suffered, the houston tea party didn't even bother to keep their website domain registered.

I stopped using fb in 2010 (after they went off the chain with anti privacy) but still drop in sometimes. In 2010 my feed was nearly 100% political, now it's nearly politically devoid and mostly filled with trivia memes and videos of things like silly cats.

Some activists are waiting for the next spark to get back in, maybe Rand will provide that...
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If we were to look at it from a completely cultural or societal perspective, i like the notion that people are becoming less politically active. Bad timing from a purely political perspective? Likely.

I think we'd do well as a nation to revert back to the cultural way of life of the 80s that largely contributed to the health of the country. A laid back way of life. Returning to things that are meaningfiul in an every day way. Culturally conservative, I suppose is the word. I guess if anyone here lived through that era, then, they'd likely understand where I'm coming from.
 
Natural Citizen said:
If we were to look at it from a completely cultural or societal perspective, i like the notion that people are becoming less politically active. Bad timing from a purely political perspective? Likely.

I think we'd do well as a nation to revert back to the cultural way of life of the 80s that largely contributed to the health of the country. A laid back way of life. Returning to things that are meaningfiul in an every day way. Culturally conservative, I suppose is the word. I guess if anyone here lived through that era, then, they'd likely understand where I'm coming from.
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I lived through the 80's and I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
LOL I just looked and there's 46 hours left. Why the flying towels? Take to the streets people. There are lots who don't know about this yet. Even if it doesn't get funded it will help for Jack to be in contact with 40+ people willing to help support whatever he is able to do (and if you've looked into it, everything he's done has been top notch.) Compare his past projects to some of the controversial ones we have seen in the past. We are lucky to have such a rock-solid crew ready to work to get Rand elected. There are no question marks, there is good judgment and expertise and focus and dedication. This leads me to believe that not enough people know about it is all. What can you do? I'm about to do something...
 
Wow, I didn't know it was about to expire.

No problem, Kickstarter will let you put it up again. Try, try again. Consensus is that 30 days is the ideal campaign length. So make that the time period next time.

So retool the campaign, do it again. Promotion is the key to these things. Social media. Were you on Facebook 8 hours a day posting, finding communities, encouraging people to spread it? Did you tap into the Twitterverse? Did you get all your network of friends on board and helping spread the word to all their friends and their friends?

See if you can get on the Alex Jones Show.

Promote it somehow in LewRockwell.com -- maybe write an article for them?

Mises University is about to start. Maybe you can do something with that, somehow have a presence down there in Auburn.

Liberty.Me.

I don't see anything about the campaign on Popular Liberty at the Daily Paul.

Get interviewed in Reason.

You just gotta beat the pavement and get the word out. You should be contacting all these: http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/03/top-100-libertarian-blogs-and-websites.html

All that said, the campaign has one fatal flaw, IMO. You're not going to be happy to hear it. I'm sorry. But here it is: "$18,920 - Team Basic Living Expenses (May->August)." I don't know that people are going to be excited about paying your personal expenses, which is what the vast majority of the funds are going to.
 
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