Rand Paul demands Dems return money raised by ‘sexual predator’ Bill Clinton

[jjdoyle]

If Rand makes his campaign about social conservatism or infidelity then you might have a point. The Dems and especially the Clintons are using the "War on Women" against Republicans constantly and are without a doubt going to use if for Hillary's run. So if they are going to make it a central part of their campaign then it is a perfectly acceptable area to critique them on. It is no different than when Social Cons make morality a big part of their campaign.

So yea, you're completely missing the point of what Rand is doing.

You're right, I don't see the point of this, when we are $17+ trillion in debt. Have a foreign policy that hasn't changed. Drones striking innocent civilians around the world. And have CURRENT Republicans and Democrats in Congress that don't even read the bills they vote on, much less follow/know the Constitution.

Instead of showing how a policy President Clinton did/didn't pass has hurt women, he is focusing on something that two candidates like Newt and Herman are guilty of as well, yet he would have endorsed them. If he's trying to show how the Democrats have issues on the "War on Women", he should be able to point out specific policies/regulations.

The Republicans haven't had the majority of women votes since 1988. I don't think this is the route to go to sway them over.

 

[fr33]

Rand will be attacked mercilessly regardless of what he says or doesn't.

Yeah this is probably right. At first I view these multiple attacks fruitless but then again when you talk to mainstream republicans around here they always want to bring up Slick Willie. He's playing to the base. Nomination first, then drop the bomb on Hillary in the general.

 

[Christian Liberty]

I find Rand to be quite humorous here, but frankly, I think his point is kind of dumb if he really means it... kind of like how I think the people who say Ron shouldn't have taken donations from Neo-Nazis were kind of dumb. If a bad person gives you money, take it, then you have money and the bad guy doesn't

That said, politicians deserve to be made to squirm and feel like the scumbags that they are, so I like watching Rand HAMMER Bill Clinton even if I think his point is kind of absurd when viewed logically.

 

[Occam's Banana]

One keeps the moral high ground by keeping higher morals. Actions speak louder than words.

There is nothing immoral about someone accepting campaign contributions from a philanderer (or contributions raised by a philanderer).

It is not one bit different from accepting campaign contributions from a racist (or contributions raised by a racist) ...

What do you think his Dad would do? I bet he would do that stuttering, hem and haw thing he does while dropping nuclear fucking bombs of truth on Slick Willy Clinton.

If you think Ron Paul would waste any time at all trying to make hay out of this nonsense, then I don't know what to tell you. If he were "fenced" into addressing the issue at all (by being asked about it directly, for example), he might very well dismiss the whole thing impatiently. At most, he'd likely make only vague disapproving remarks about philandery in general (without getting "personal" about it) and then urge people to talk about something else (something of actual importance or significance) - especially given all the crap he took over the Don Black issue. This is especially ironic, given that (as I recall) Hillary Clinton was one of the people demanding that Ron Paul return contributions made by Don Black ...

But apparently, though, it's okay for us to indulge double-standards when it's one of "our guys" ... SMH.

 

[singe22]

There is nothing immoral about someone accepting campaign contributions from a philanderer (or contributions raised by a philanderer).

It is not one bit different from accepting campaign contributions from a racist (or contributions raised by a racist) ...



If you think Ron Paul would waste any time at all trying to make hay out of this nonsense, then I don't know what to tell you. If he were "fenced" into addressing the issue at all (by being asked about it directly, for example), he might very well dismiss the whole thing impatiently. At most, he'd likely make only vague disapproving remarks about philandery in general (without getting "personal" about it) and then urge people to talk about something else (something of actual importance or significance) - especially given all the crap he took over the Don Black issue. This is especially ironic, given that (as I recall) Hillary Clinton was one of the people demanding that Ron Paul return contributions made by Don Black ...

But apparently, though, it's okay for us to indulge double-standards when it's one of "our guys" ... SMH.

QUOTED FOR THE MOTHER F'IN TRUTH.

 

[LibertyEagle]

There is nothing immoral about someone accepting campaign contributions from a philanderer (or contributions raised by a philanderer).

It is not one bit different from accepting campaign contributions from a racist (or contributions raised by a racist) ...



If you think Ron Paul would waste any time at all trying to make hay out of this nonsense, then I don't know what to tell you. If he were "fenced" into addressing the issue at all (by being asked about it directly, for example), he might very well dismiss the whole thing impatiently. At most, he'd likely make only vague disapproving remarks about philandery in general (without getting "personal" about it) and then urge people to talk about something else (something of actual importance or significance) - especially given all the crap he took over the Don Black issue. This is especially ironic, given that (as I recall) Hillary Clinton was one of the people demanding that Ron Paul return contributions made by Don Black ...

But apparently, though, it's okay for us to indulge double-standards when it's one of "our guys" ... SMH.

Or, you could look at it as payback. lol. Hillary is indulging in double-standards here. She demanded Ron give the money back, but she has no problem accepting same.

I do see your point and I agree with you. It just depends upon how you look at it. When I first saw Rand doing this, the above came to my mind.

 

[Jamesiv1]

There is nothing immoral about someone accepting campaign contributions from a philanderer (or contributions raised by a philanderer).

It is not one bit different from accepting campaign contributions from a racist (or contributions raised by a racist) ...

If you think Ron Paul would waste any time at all trying to make hay out of this nonsense, then I don't know what to tell you. If he were "fenced" into addressing the issue at all (by being asked about it directly, for example), he might very well dismiss the whole thing impatiently. At most, he'd likely make only vague disapproving remarks about philandery in general (without getting "personal" about it) and then urge people to talk about something else (something of actual importance or significance) - especially given all the crap he took over the Don Black issue. This is especially ironic, given that (as I recall) Hillary Clinton was one of the people demanding that Ron Paul return contributions made by Don Black ...

But apparently, though, it's okay for us to indulge double-standards when it's one of "our guys" ... SMH.

You're a Neo-nazi, baby-killing hippy.

Why do you hate America?

 

[libertarian101]

Simply wow, who are Rand advisors... he is so obsessed on being on the news everyday his willing to say and do anything to be in the news. Rand is loosing his mojo very fast and looks very desperate like Mitt Romney.

 

[FriedChicken]

When I tell this story to republicans who didn't know about it their eye open up reeeally wide and they say something to the effect of "WOW!".

Not that I've gone around and told it to every republican I can find but basically my republican family members found it very amusing and can't wait to hear what the reaction is going to be.
I take that as being a very good sign. One thing that really bugs the average republican is how Bill gets away with being scum while the slightest comment made by a republican is twisted and used to burn them at the stake.

To those who say Rand is using a guilt by association method I have to disagree with you.
He is only saying that Democrats who believe republicans have declared 'war on women' but want to parade B. Clinton around at their fundraisers are hypocrites. It isn't about Hillary, its about the democrats' "war on women" propaganda and forcing them either shut up or further prove his point by defending Clinton's actions.

It was a preemptive strike against calling Rand a woman hater. He is on the offensive instead of defense.

Better issues to talk about? Yeah. Absolutely.
But no one is going to listen to a 'woman hater' from a 'woman hating' political party about the federal reserve because, *gasp, they're a woman hater!
Its a lot like Rand doing all that preemptive pandering about racial stuff to prove ahead of the [second round] of accusations that he isn't a racist.

Unfortunately this kinda stuff is what political observers and votes like hearing about. Drama queen issues.


.... hope I'm correct.
I'm not overly confident. I think this will be a net gain for the primary - but I can see it as possibly damaging in the general but maybe not.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

I don't know, but the focus should be on the other sexual harassment cases.

It's February 2014. We have more than two years before this is a Rand vs Hillary one-on-one race. There is plenty of time to build up to Juanita Broaddrick and Hillary's role in intimidating Bill's rape victim. Start with what most people are familiar with, build the story slowly so it stays in the news. No need to dump everything out there at once. The other women have largely been forgotten at this point. Give it time.

 

[devil21]

When I tell this story to republicans who didn't know about it their eye open up reeeally wide and they say something to the effect of "WOW!".

Not that I've gone around and told it to every republican I can find but basically my republican family members found it very amusing and can't wait to hear what the reaction is going to be.
I take that as being a very good sign. One thing that really bugs the average republican is how Bill gets away with being scum while the slightest comment made by a republican is twisted and used to burn them at the stake.

To those who say Rand is using a guilt by association method I have to disagree with you.
He is only saying that Democrats who believe republicans have declared 'war on women' but want to parade B. Clinton around at their fundraisers are hypocrites. It isn't about Hillary, its about the democrats' "war on women" propaganda and forcing them either shut up or further prove his point by defending Clinton's actions.

It was a preemptive strike against calling Rand a woman hater. He is on the offensive instead of defense.

Better issues to talk about? Yeah. Absolutely.
But no one is going to listen to a 'woman hater' from a 'woman hating' political party about the federal reserve because, *gasp, they're a woman hater!
Its a lot like Rand doing all that preemptive pandering about racial stuff to prove ahead of the [second round] of accusations that he isn't a racist.

Unfortunately this kinda stuff is what political observers and votes like hearing about. Drama queen issues.


.... hope I'm correct.
I'm not overly confident. I think this will be a net gain for the primary - but I can see it as possibly damaging in the general but maybe not.

+rep

I am also seeing delighted reactions from conservatives that someone finally has the nuts to pick a fight with the Clintons. Plus it's pissing off the left and that helps boost Rand's bona fides with the rank and file.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

When I tell this story to republicans who didn't know about it their eye open up reeeally wide and they say something to the effect of "WOW!".

Not that I've gone around and told it to every republican I can find but basically my republican family members found it very amusing and can't wait to hear what the reaction is going to be.
I take that as being a very good sign. One thing that really bugs the average republican is how Bill gets away with being scum while the slightest comment made by a republican is twisted and used to burn them at the stake.

To those who say Rand is using a guilt by association method I have to disagree with you.
He is only saying that Democrats who believe republicans have declared 'war on women' but want to parade B. Clinton around at their fundraisers are hypocrites. It isn't about Hillary, its about the democrats' "war on women" propaganda and forcing them either shut up or further prove his point by defending Clinton's actions.

It was a preemptive strike against calling Rand a woman hater. He is on the offensive instead of defense.

Better issues to talk about? Yeah. Absolutely.
But no one is going to listen to a 'woman hater' from a 'woman hating' political party about the federal reserve because, *gasp, they're a woman hater!
Its a lot like Rand doing all that preemptive pandering about racial stuff to prove ahead of the [second round] of accusations that he isn't a racist.

Unfortunately this kinda stuff is what political observers and votes like hearing about. Drama queen issues.


.... hope I'm correct.
I'm not overly confident. I think this will be a net gain for the primary - but I can see it as possibly damaging in the general but maybe not.

At best, this is brilliant move.. at worst it is giving dems a taste of their own medicine by way of playing aggressive politics.
I think it is pretty clever tactic and would like to see more aggressive attacks on hypocrisies of democrats ( and Republicans for that matter).

 

[Christian Liberty]

@OB-- Of course Ron wouldn't do this. It isn't his style. He's always been nice, maybe even too much so sometimes.

That said, I agree with you. That doesn't change the fact that I find it funny.

 

[idiom]

Its more about stopping Hillary from winning her Primary.

The Democrats are the opposite of the GOP, they hate coronations. They desperately want new and edgy, but all they have is Clinton. They really don't like her, but nobody else has put their hand up yet.

This move plays really well to up the schizophrenic tendencies of the Dems.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

good move on rand to call this pervert out. clinton is not only a serial rapist, he also DID abuse his power. keep it going rand!!

 

[FriedChicken]

Its more about stopping Hillary from winning her Primary.

The Democrats are the opposite of the GOP, they hate coronations. They desperately want new and edgy, but all they have is Clinton. They really don't like her, but nobody else has put their hand up yet.

This move plays really well to up the schizophrenic tendencies of the Dems.

hmm... I never really thought that. I kinda took the Clintons to be the new Kennedys. The democrat family who "everybody loves" on their side of the isle.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Simply wow, who are Rand advisors... he is so obsessed on being on the news everyday his willing to say and do anything to be in the news. Rand is loosing his mojo very fast and looks very desperate like Mitt Romney.

No, no, no, damn it. Come on, man...them's the rules in guvmint politics.

Rand Paul needs the name recognition, because everything aside, just being honest with yourself, you know that the left is collectively asking themselves, "Biden, 2016? Hillary? Holy shit twinkies, we're the only ones that are going to vote for either of them...and we haven't got anyone else..." You also know that the right is collectively asking themselves, "Romney, 2016? Again? Really? Herman Cain, Palin, Gingrich...we don't want any of these losers. Romney couldn't even win at rock paper scissors..."

Rand Paul is the name that neither that collective left nor that collective left want to hear in 2016. I think he should spend Monday mornings in DC wearing a Revolutionary Blue uniform and standing on the steps of Congress, berating each member as they pass by, "CONSTITUTION! LETS START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CONSTITUTION!"

Okay, that's a little extreme. Bad idea. That aside, he needs to keep his name in front of the folks who watch those Sunday morning news magazine shows. That's like SportsCenter to the establishment types. If they ever cancelled that and just played Everybody Loves Raymond reruns, they'd all kill themselves, and Rand could just chill. Alas, that will never happen, so attack away, Younger Guy Named Paul.

 

[Crashland]

Rand Paul is the name that neither that collective left nor that collective left want to hear in 2016. I think he should spend Monday mornings in DC wearing a Revolutionary Blue uniform and standing on the steps of Congress, berating each member as they pass by, "CONSTITUTION! LETS START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE CONSTITUTION!"

Berating Congress is a winning position. Slam both sides. With a 13%/81% approve/disapprove spread for Congress, you can't go wrong. Maybe not with the revolutionary blue uniform though.