Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell: Odd-couple allies

[Occam's Banana]

"whinging"??? please define.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging

whinge
intr.v. whinged, whing·ing, whing·es
To complain or protest, especially in an annoying or persistent manner.

 

[TheGrinch]

Where did I call YOU a plant? Where did I single anyone out? And there are several threads going on the forum dealing with McConnell so it is hard to keep them all straight but yes there are people on here encouraging pandering to McConnell and some defending Jesse Benton. And I didn't say anything about Rand other than I can't believe he is hooking up with McConnell for political gain. I find it disgusting because I find McConnell's positions disgusting, but then I am not a political whore like some people.

From my wall from you the last time I told you to give it a rest about throwing a fit:

Don't tell me to give it a rest. I owe you a neg rep. Are you some kind of neocon operative? I think you are.

Please explain how we are pissing all over your work by voicing an opinion? When a moderator tells me to leave I will. Until then I shall continue to call people out when I see they are being dishonest about being for a liberty agenda. If you don't like it..well..I really could care less.

So pretty much anyone who doesn't agree with you is being intellectually dishonest, if I understand correctly. As I said above, we can disagree and still fight for the same things. You two just seem to want to fight anyone that you deem "unpure" for even engaging in the political process.

Anyways, I'm not getting into this again and ruining the thread. Have a nice day.

 

[TheGrinch]

Here ya go:

Then quote the person you're talking about. Don't start hyperbolizing and painting things a certain way.

Forgive me for assuming you were lumping people in with as tiny minority's opinion and then calling their integrity into question, as you've both done many times.

 

[Carlybee]

From my wall from you the last time I told you to give it a rest about throwing a fit:



So pretty much anyone who doesn't agree with you is being intellectually dishonest, if I understand correctly. As I said above, we can disagree and still fight for the same things. You two just seem to want to fight anyone that you deem "unpure" for even engaging in the political process.

Anyways, I'm not getting into this again and ruining the thread. Have a nice day.

Oh that was mature posting a private message that had nothing whatsoever to do with this thread or your most recent accusation. I see some are willing to dish it out but sure don't want anyone else doing it and God forbid someone speak the truth around here because that makes people all squirmy.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Then quote the person you're talking about. Don't start hyperbolizing and painting things a certain way.

Forgive me for assuming you were lumping people in with as tiny minority's opinion and then calling their integrity into question, as you've both done many times.

the original post that got your shorts twisted:

Some here are more concerned with politics than preserving liberty....sad.

1. Learn the definition of "some"
2. If "some" doesn't include you, move on.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You have to wonder if all these people sticking up for McConnell are GOP plants. Good Lord.

Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

 

[TheGrinch]

the original post that got your shorts twisted:




1. Learn the definition of "some"
2. If "some" doesn't include you, move on.

Then how bout you stop making collectivist generalizations, and put up or shut up if you believe that someone is more interested in politics than liberty. Even though I disagree with TC's over-friendly attitude towards those who treat us like crap, even he hasn't shown me indication that he's not here for liberty, (even if we might vehemently disagree on how to achieve it)... And that's pretty much the only person in the thread even implying their support for politics over liberty. The rest are arguing politics to achieve liberty, and that is certainly noble and debateable, not something to demonize and divide over.

And you know as well as I do that this isn't some isolated incident. You and Carly are always like sharks in the water, just waiting for something you can use to divide (innocent or not). I really have to wonder about your intentions, when I've even asked you to offer what you think we should do, and you had no answer. To me that means you're pissing on our efforts without offering another solution, and contributing nothing but divisiveness, and yes that pisses me off, no matter whether your unfair generalizations are aimed at me or others here.

But I'm done with this. I don't think many here are buying your "your a sell-out if you even engage in politics for the right reasons" schtick.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, #5:

* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

You can quit now...it won't work.

 

[TheGrinch]

Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

Careful. I was on your side, but see what happens if you start flinging insults

 

[TheGrinch]

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, #5:



You can quit now...it won't work.

Same goes to you. It kind of disturbs me that you know a rulebook for causing a disruption

 

[cajuncocoa]

Same goes to you. It kind of disturbs me that you know a rulebook for causing a disruption

Because the only way one can know such things is to be a troublemaker, right?

I used to listen to Glenn Beck...not proud of that, but it is what it is.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Then how bout you stop making collectivist generalizations, and put up or shut up if you believe that someone is more interested in politics than liberty.

I have put up, and in spite of GOP apologists' wishes, I won't shut up.

I'm not here for politics; I was, but Ron Paul's campaign is over (and this IS the Ron Paul Forum, not Rand's and certainly NOT McConnell's)

I'm here to advance the cause of liberty, not encourage those who want to compromise it.

 

[Jamesiv1]

By MANU RAJU | 9/13/12 7:10 PM EDT
They are methodically forming a tight-knit alliance to bridge the divide between the sparring factions of their party... heading off an intraparty war that has uprooted Republican politics in many parts of the country.

Anyone but die-hard purists can see that this is a good thing. Smart politics, win-win, etc. <--- serious

If you disagree then you are no lover of liberty. <--- comedy

 

[William R]

There's really nothing odd about it . Rand is playing for the future. If Romney loses Rand is going to run for President in 2016 . Why not have an old establishment bull like McConnell on your side. Rand is a much better politician than his father.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Anyone but die-hard purists can see that this is a good thing. Smart politics, win-win, etc.

If you disagree, then you sir, are no lover of liberty.

I am not a sir, and I strongly disagree with you. I guess that makes me a (female) die-hard purist. But I could have told you that.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

I have put up, and in spite of GOP apologists' wishes, I won't shut up.

Right, you're making a career out of driving Paul supporters away from Ron's GOP restoration plan, no less in Rand's forum. Swell

 

[cajuncocoa]

Right, you're making a career out of driving Paul supporters away from Ron's GOP restoration plan, no less in Rand's forum. Swell

And yet all of you are still here. Amazing! Must be because that's not my intention.

Perhaps we should set up a "Mitch McConnell" subforum and move this topic there.

 

[Michigan11]

I have put up, and in spite of GOP apologists' wishes, I won't shut up.

I'm not here for politics; I was, but Ron Paul's campaign is over (and this IS the Ron Paul Forum, not Rand's and certainly NOT McConnell's)

I'm here to advance the cause of liberty, not encourage those who want to compromise it.

Are you here to what? Lessen the impact of our ideology or increase it?

 

[Jamesiv1]

Anyone who continues to post in this thread is no lover of liberty.

 

[TheGrinch]

Oh that was mature posting a private message that had nothing whatsoever to do with this thread or your most recent accusation. I see some are willing to dish it out but sure don't want anyone else doing it and God forbid someone speak the truth around here because that makes people all squirmy.

Was on my wall that anyone can see, and you asked. Man, you guys are just getting sad with these gotcha attempts.

I'll leave you alone but its pretty clear you don't support anything that's being done here, including Dr. Pauls plans, so I'm not sure why you're here other than to continue to stir the pot and divide.