RAND PAUL 2016

Quick thing about Yoho, he's in the 3rd most safe Republican district going off of tonight's results. 67% R i think.
 
Shane Harris said:
This sounds pretty good, despite Buchanan being a protectionist yadda yadda at least he's good on foreign policy.
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Ya, and you could trust him with his finger on the button.

If Scott Walker or Marco Rubio or whoever were VP, idk if you could say the same.
 
Rand Paul all the way in 2016. That said I think the America we live in today if you aren't pro-choice and pro-gay marriage you aren't going to get the needed electoral votes. Looking at the popular vote Mitt just barely lost but if you look at the electoral college, the way swing states go, he got beat badly.

Republicans have to let the social issues go. Focus on the debt and the wars.
 
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doctor jones said:
Rand Paul all the way in 2016. That said I think the America we live in today if you aren't pro-choice and pro-gay marriage you aren't going to get the needed electoral votes. Looking at the popular vote Mitt just barely lost but if you look at the electoral college, the way swing states go, he got beat badly.

Republicans have to let the social issues go. Focus on the debt and the wars.
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this is what makes Rand perfect
 
doctor jones said:
Rand Paul all the way in 2016. That said I think the America we live in today if you aren't pro-choice and pro-gay marriage you aren't going to get the needed electoral votes. Looking at the popular vote Mitt just barely lost but if you look at the electoral college, the way swing states go, he got beat badly.

Republicans have to let the social issues go. Focus on the debt and the wars.
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I agree this is probably true, at this point...

But I think that's why Rand is right when he suggests that maybe a more libertarian approach to social issues might help, because it is still quite different from the current liberal interpretation, and would set the party apart. I think he should hold steady on the prolife issue though, though even on that issue too, I'd still like to hear him present the more pro liberty/non aggression reasoning for it. The Dems have turned it into a social behavior issue, but it really isn't, IMO...it's a self ownership and natural rights issue, in my opinion, not a social behavior issue.

Rand's argument about the west coast and New England was vindicated last night. Republicans have been holding up NH as a counter example of where Republicans are still competitive in New England... But look at the results for the federal races last night.
 
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brandon said:
Can Rand run for Senate and the presidency at the same time?
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I don't think so, but typically the KY primary is in May, much later than when the GOP nomination is usually "decided".


Not only that, but Massie could run for Rand's seat, and then Rand could re-run for McConnell's seat a few years later as this would be his last term.

I hope people are starting to now see how beneficial it was for Benton to join McConnell.
 
Agorism said:
Ya, and you could trust him with his finger on the button.

If Scott Walker or Marco Rubio or whoever were VP, idk if you could say the same.
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Can't speak for Walker, but Rubio is your run of the mill neocon and who I think might pose the biggest threat in 16.

THe republicans might want to choose him since he is a latino and they've been killed with that demographic recently.

It's incredibly premature but I say Rubio and either Newt or Santorum will be among the toughest competition for Rand in 2016...
 
doctor jones said:
Rand Paul all the way in 2016. That said I think the America we live in today if you aren't pro-choice and pro-gay marriage you aren't going to get the needed electoral votes. Looking at the popular vote Mitt just barely lost but if you look at the electoral college, the way swing states go, he got beat badly.

Republicans have to let the social issues go. Focus on the debt and the wars.
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Mitt was such a terrible "conservative" that he had to be extra conservative on issues like the military and abortion and gay rights. Which made him sound like a lunatic.

I completely agree with you:

1. I am pro-choice but for those against abortion the battle is in the courts, the president or congress will not be able to do anything about it.

2. Gay marriage should not even be an issue at the national level, let the states decides, besides two consenting adults have the right to get married if they want to.

The problem is the GOP Neocons still want to hold on to power and the only chance they have is relying on the neanderthal religious rights, so while Rome burns, they focus on gay marriage and abortion.
 
July said:
I agree this is probably true, at this point...

But I think that's why Rand is right when he suggests that maybe a more libertarian approach to social issues might help, because it is still quite different from the current liberal interpretation, and would set the party apart. I think he should hold steady on the prolife issue though, though even on that issue too, I'd still like to hear him present the more pro liberty/non aggression reasoning for it. The Dems have turned it into a social behavior issue, but it really isn't, IMO...it's a self ownership and natural rights issue, in my opinion, not a social behavior issue.

Rand's argument about the west coast and New England was vindicated last night. Republicans have been holding up NH as a counter example of where Republicans are still competitive in New England... But look at the results for the federal races last night.
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They got creamed. I have always thought Rand's strategy was correct for a long time. Let's push that! The media is saying the party has to move to the middle, but they actually have to move towards libertarianism.
 
Yup. There were some victories in NH though, for some of the more liberty friendly Republicans, Andy Sanborn won his race thank god.
 
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Rand can do this. And we aren't the only ones who believe it!!

http://www.fitsnews.com/2012/11/07/rand-paul-in-2016/

Encarnacion wasn’t the only one drawing that conclusion, though.

“Rand Paul 2016 may be our only hope,” a South Carolina consultant with ties to several Tea Party candidates told FITS.

Meanwhile a limited government advocate in Florida – which also hosts an early primary – predicted that after a “moment of self-reflection” the GOP would “see that it has to change” and look to Rand Paul as “their go-to guy.”
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If you think about it we can establish so much momentum in the 2016 primary season. Iowa (we control the state GOP infrastructure), New Hampshire (very liberty friendly), and South Carolina (likely 2 Randian senators in Davis by then and DeMint). Good stuff to get excited about.
 
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