Rand Paul 2016 - Join, or Die.

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Dude, that's awesome!
 
I'm all about Rand 2016 - but if he doesn't have a realistic chance at winning maybe it would be best for him to wait? How shitty would it be for him to run and not win any state, and lose his Senate seat? He's building a lot of political capital and it would suck to blow it on an unwinnable race. I guess I'm just being a bit of a contrarian.
We can have Massie run for his Senate seat so it stays in our hands ;)
 
so who for VP... this is the list we developed for ron
It's way early to start this discussion, but it would probably have to be a governor or someone with big name recognition. Napolitano would be better suited for Attorney General and he could oversee the Feds not intervening with states that change their drug policy.
 
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It's way early to start this discussion, but it would probably have to be a governor or someone with big name recognition. Napolitano would be better sutied for Attorney General and he could oversee the Feds not intervening with states that change their drug policy.

would be clutch. has for more power than if he was just VP. Getting people like Nap in the executive branch in today's America would be so amazing.
 
What about someone like Demint for VP? He could get on board with Rand's campaign I think. Or Walter Jones? Someone older and more experienced. Jones seems like a good guy since he is a rare congressman who made the transition while in office from being a neocon to being against the wars and endorsing Ron for President. Plus he's older. I guess having two guys from the south might not help in swing states though. Any decent, experienced conservative-libertarian leaning congressman, senators, or governors from swing states?
 
I don't have a great feeling about Cruz personally. Also I think the VP will need more experience and ideally come from a swing state.
Demint is with us about 60% of the time, I suspect Cruz will be better than that, probably 75% of the time. He fits somewhere between Demint and Lee on the liberty spectrum. Demint has much more clout and name recognition though. Neither are from swing states. How much does that matter though, Ryan couldn't deliver Wisconsin, so that argument might be weaker today.
 
Demint is with us about 60% of the time, I suspect Cruz will be better than that, probably 75% of the time. He fits somewhere between Demint and Lee on the liberty spectrum. Demint has much more clout and name recognition though. Neither are from swing states. How much does that matter though, Ryan couldn't deliver Wisconsin, so that argument might be weaker today.

I know, I'm just saying IDEALLY if you had a choice of which state to choose a VP from, I'd take a swing state over a non-swing state. Plus Wisconsin isn't much of a swing state.
 
I love some of the VP ideas, but libertarian or not, 2 white guys will get destroyed, especially if the Dem ticket is Clinton and hmmmmm Colin Powell.
 
I think this whole gender/race thing has gotten too far. It could influence the vote but I personally don't think it will determine an election. Especially, if Rand gets the nomination. I think Rand would choose someone that fits his strategy of making New England and the west coast competitive.
 
Paul/Cruz would be a pretty dynamite ticket.

The VP would have to be someone that seems "different" from him. Maybe someone like Flake who doesn't carry the Tea Party label but has a lot of pro-liberty positions. He'd have to get better on civil liberties though.
 
I still think if Rand won he'd have to choose a somewhat more establishment candidate. I could see him recruiting a social-con type if the Evangelicals didn't warm up to him. If DeMint is retiring in 2016 he'd be a good choice, or one of the reform governors like Kasich or Walker.
 
I know, I'm just saying IDEALLY if you had a choice of which state to choose a VP from, I'd take a swing state over a non-swing state. Plus Wisconsin isn't much of a swing state.
Yeah, I'm kind of at a lost for a VP for Rand. I'd give anyone that was a governor bonus points though.
 
If you put hope in a single man, you will more than likely be disappointed. One man even if elected can't fix this nation. The problems we face can't wait four years to address, action is needed now. Like Ron Paul I think it is too late, this nation is over the edge now and is going nowhere but down and nothing short of revolution will stop that.
 
I hope you're being sarcastic.

Palin is dedicated to liberty and Rand Paul, and has been shoring up her US history knowledge and balances the ticket. Of course the VP pick is way out in the future.

One thing that would really help is if Rand can get the endorsements of Palin and the Koch brothers early on. He does that and he wins.
 
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